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Is rape preventable on an individual basis?

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No
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Xathranaar
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Postby Xathranaar » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:48 pm

Condunum wrote:
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Funny. Actually one is a violent assault, the other is not. BIG difference

No there isn't. IIRC, it's statutory rape regardless of the circumstances if it's a minor.

The problem is that statutory rape (assuming it is not coercive) is often harmless, or very nearly so, while forced rape almost never is. And there is also something that is very arbitrary about age of consent laws that baffles my attempts to deal with them intelligently; I get that a line has to be drawn, I just can't imagine how to do it in any way that is fair.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:18 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Condunum wrote:No there isn't. IIRC, it's statutory rape regardless of the circumstances if it's a minor.

The problem is that statutory rape (assuming it is not coercive) is often harmless, or very nearly so, while forced rape almost never is. And there is also something that is very arbitrary about age of consent laws that baffles my attempts to deal with them intelligently; I get that a line has to be drawn, I just can't imagine how to do it in any way that is fair.

Im well aware of the often harmless nature of statutory. I'm just being a pedant.
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Postby Xathranaar » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:20 pm

Condunum wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:The problem is that statutory rape (assuming it is not coercive) is often harmless, or very nearly so, while forced rape almost never is. And there is also something that is very arbitrary about age of consent laws that baffles my attempts to deal with them intelligently; I get that a line has to be drawn, I just can't imagine how to do it in any way that is fair.

Im well aware of the often harmless nature of statutory. I'm just being a pedant.

I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything. I honestly have no idea how to deal with statutory.
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:22 pm

Carry a weapon, only get drinks from people you trust, and don't make yourself a target, the same way you prevent yourself from being mugged.

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Postby Xathranaar » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:29 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Carry a weapon, only get drinks from people you trust, and don't make yourself a target, the same way you prevent yourself from being mugged.

It just never ends...

Most people are not raped this way. For details see the entire thread.
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:30 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Carry a weapon, only get drinks from people you trust, and don't make yourself a target, the same way you prevent yourself from being mugged.

It just never ends...

Most people are not raped this way. For details see the entire thread.

True, most people are drugged first. Hence the second line.

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Postby Xsyne » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:31 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:It just never ends...

Most people are not raped this way. For details see the entire thread.

True, most people are drugged first. Hence the second line.

Most people are raped by people who they know well, and therefore presumably trust.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:32 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Carry a weapon, only get drinks from people you trust, and don't make yourself a target, the same way you prevent yourself from being mugged.

As far as carrying a weapon goes, what about minors? A child can't legally even buy weapons in some areas...
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:32 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:True, most people are drugged first. Hence the second line.

Most people are raped by people who they know well, and therefore presumably trust.

Paranoia saves. *nods*

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:33 pm

Don't walk home alone at night, don't get drunk and go to a stranger's house, don't take strangers back to your house and never attempt to stay in an abusive relationship without seeking help.

The first three items are stock standard advice you'd give to anybody as prevention to any crime. The fourth is a little touch and go, but it isn't insensitve nor sexist to advise somebody to leave a relationship where they aren't being treated properly.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:54 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:The fourth is a little touch and go, but it isn't insensitve nor sexist to advise somebody to leave a relationship where they aren't being treated properly.


It's not insensitive or sexist at all. It's great advice.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:15 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Xsyne wrote:Most people are raped by people who they know well, and therefore presumably trust.

Paranoia saves. *nods*

No. No it does not.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:12 pm

There's an interesting program on Belgian television, about children that decided to let themselves be filmed while they process their trauma's. One of them is a girl who has been raped.

It's quite a revelation to see, more or less firsthand, how it has affected this girl. Maybe these kind of things should be brought out in public more often like this.

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