Most Americans Support Troop Increase

[Kashindahar]

How does a guy in a cave manage to take down the twin towers? Exactly.

So as long as I don't actually perform the physical act of killing someone, I bear absolutely no responsibility for that act? No matter what else I do?

Awesome.

[Beingthebest]

How does a guy in a cave manage to take down the twin towers? Exactly. I support our troop but get them the hell out of there.

He doesn't. His less cowardly underlings do it for him.

I really hope you were attempting some kind of satire, there.

I wasn't being sarcastic in the slightest. I really believe that something else was involved. No two building fall like a demolition sight like that if a plane flys into the upper third. sorry but i wish all the family's affected the best and they shouldn't have died for such a thing. But it happened and i don't accept the reason the media supplied.

God Bless everyone.. Even Americans

[Arumdaum]

We should cut the military budget and get out of Afghanistan.

[Maurepas]

The money spent on the useless Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq could have funded Universal Healthcare in this country several times over...

This statement is false.

Taxpayers in the United States will pay $915.1 billion for total Iraq and Afghanistan war spending since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:
269,705,508 People with Health Care for One Year

This is not "several times over".

Yes, I understand, we have spent a seriously large amount of money on these wars, but we have not spent anywhere near as much as you claim.

It doesnt specify what level of Healthcare and how its being used, or really anything other than a number, so I dont think it can really definitively say much...


Point being, that money couldve been much better spent...

[Delator]

I've been in favor of more troops since about when the Iraq war started. Iraq was a distraction from Afghanistan. Dumb enough to go democracy/nation-building in one country, but if you do that, at least stick to it till it's done. Doing it again was just ass-hattery of the highest order...thanks Georgie. Obama campainged on this, and it's one of the reasons I voted for him, but the troop increase now is larger than that campaigned on due to combat increasing in Afghanistan. I never expected the the Taliban to make things easy, so...yeah.

For the situation Obama has inherited In the terms of the broader war against Al-Qaeda, it makes perfect sense. Iraq was a stupid decision, with consequences yet to be determined, but we are moving towards a withdrawl there, for better or worse. The deadline for that is a long way off, but it will presumably begin to free up military resources for Afghanistan. Whether such a troop increase in Afghanistan will have the same effectiveness as it did in Iraq is something I find questionable, but it's the best option from a force projection standpoint. We can't disengage in that manner entirely, (jumping into a quagmire is a lot easier than dragging yourself out), but Obama can also utilize methods the previous administration ignored, and has indeed done so.

I also feel that we owe it to the Afghani people we've hurt to keep at it for at least a little while longer...if only because success might have made it worth it in the long run. Internationalizing the operation would do a great deal for that, but Europe seems too reluctant to provide more troops, and I am personally not sure what role the UN might be able to take up in this regard.

If it doesn't work, we can still leave...but I think whether we leave now, or we leave later, it will be problematic, to put it mildly, and I'd rather leave later having given it the proper try that Iraq denied, than cut now just cause it's politically popular.

*dons flameproof suit*

[United Technocrats]

Our military went berserk with spending during the cold war trying to keep up with the Russians. Even though the Soviet Union collapsed, our military spending has kept increasing. It's silly to pretend that Iraq was a threat to us and its silly to think that Saddam and Osama were organizing any sort of common plan to destroy us. We're just looking for fights now and the more time we spend occupying Iraq, the more enemies we make.

No, America and NATO have troops in the Middle East because terrorists exported their violence to our soil... multiple times.

I heard, in the past, Americans exported some of their violence too...

[United Technocrats]

See, unlike your run of the mill homefront liberal, the troops recognize that increased numbers translate into decreased causalities and violence (as demonstrated by the surge).

Yeah, in Iraq, where they recently bombed a building after declaring the blast wall no longer necessary,

You cant create a stable democracy at the point of a gun, especially not in this day and age...

It is possible, it just takes time.

Is it? Could you provide some examples of it being done?

Japan! Just drop a couple of nukes, and presto -- democracyyyyy!
No, wait ... it's .... NUCLEAR DEMOCRACY!

Would we have had the same result had we not dropped the nukes?
And, turning it around to today, if we nuked Baghdad, would the Iraqis fall into line?

Sure! If you make them stand in the line, and drop a nuke about a mile away, they'd all fall into line! But if they stand a little closer, they'd just evaporate. See? The power of the atom can bring about democracy! A greatest of inventions of the 20th century...

Oh, you think Bin Laden was behind it? The guy has to ave dialysis, ho many caves in afghanistan have machines in them?

Wow. You should work for the CIA. They could use your powers of clairvoyance. I mean, they and every other intelligence agency have got it all wrong, but you have gotten all the answers without even leaving your house.

Wow. You knew he didn't leave his house! That means ... you know what all of us do ... all the time! OMG!
Your powers are even stronger!

[United Technocrats]

Oh, you think Bin Laden was behind it? The guy has to ave dialysis, ho many caves in afghanistan have machines in them?

Wow. You should work for the CIA. They could use your powers of clairvoyance. I mean, they and every other intelligence agency have got it all wrong, but you have gotten all the answers without even leaving your house.

I should work for em, not like they've done a good job catching him, is it? All that they have done is scaremonger.

and prevent a number of other attacks on US soil. sarcasim aside, you take a helicopter through a mountain range and try and find him. he isn't by himself, we do believe he in on the Afgan/Pakistan border, and to cross the border would be invading pakistan. if you can find him good for you, now catch him.

Catching him would be like Big Brother's Thought Police catching Emmanuel Goldstein. They don't want him caught. Or they already caught him, but aren't telling. But the latter sounds like a conspiracy theory...

[Tunizcha]

Oh, you think Bin Laden was behind it? The guy has to ave dialysis, ho many caves in afghanistan have machines in them?

Wow. You should work for the CIA. They could use your powers of clairvoyance. I mean, they and every other intelligence agency have got it all wrong, but you have gotten all the answers without even leaving your house.

I should work for em, not like they've done a good job catching him, is it? All that they have done is scaremonger.

and prevent a number of other attacks on US soil. sarcasim aside, you take a helicopter through a mountain range and try and find him. he isn't by himself, we do believe he in on the Afgan/Pakistan border, and to cross the border would be invading pakistan. if you can find him good for you, now catch him.

Catching him would be like Big Brother's Thought Police catching Emmanuel Goldstein. They don't want him caught. Or they already caught him, but aren't telling. But the latter sounds like a conspiracy theory...

He's already dead.

[United Technocrats]

Oh, you think Bin Laden was behind it? The guy has to ave dialysis, ho many caves in afghanistan have machines in them?

Wow. You should work for the CIA. They could use your powers of clairvoyance. I mean, they and every other intelligence agency have got it all wrong, but you have gotten all the answers without even leaving your house.

I should work for em, not like they've done a good job catching him, is it? All that they have done is scaremonger.

and prevent a number of other attacks on US soil. sarcasim aside, you take a helicopter through a mountain range and try and find him. he isn't by himself, we do believe he in on the Afgan/Pakistan border, and to cross the border would be invading pakistan. if you can find him good for you, now catch him.

Catching him would be like Big Brother's Thought Police catching Emmanuel Goldstein. They don't want him caught. Or they already caught him, but aren't telling. But the latter sounds like a conspiracy theory...

He's already dead.

How do you know?

[Soyut]

http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnbc-video/poll-more-americans-support-troop-increase/

It seems support for a troop increase in the middle east region has increased in the public. Is it because of Obama? Economy? Conservative Campaigning? Etc?

Wasn't most of the country against the war when Bush was in office? What happened between then and now to change their minds?

[Tunizcha]

Oh, you think Bin Laden was behind it? The guy has to ave dialysis, ho many caves in afghanistan have machines in them?

Wow. You should work for the CIA. They could use your powers of clairvoyance. I mean, they and every other intelligence agency have got it all wrong, but you have gotten all the answers without even leaving your house.

I should work for em, not like they've done a good job catching him, is it? All that they have done is scaremonger.

and prevent a number of other attacks on US soil. sarcasim aside, you take a helicopter through a mountain range and try and find him. he isn't by himself, we do believe he in on the Afgan/Pakistan border, and to cross the border would be invading pakistan. if you can find him good for you, now catch him.

Catching him would be like Big Brother's Thought Police catching Emmanuel Goldstein. They don't want him caught. Or they already caught him, but aren't telling. But the latter sounds like a conspiracy theory...

He's already dead.

How do you know?

I bought his eyeballs on eBay.

[Tech-gnosis]

Wasn't most of the country against the war when Bush was in office? What happened between then and now to change their minds?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. One may be against the war while supporting tactics that reduce troop casualties.

[Californian Mod Haters]

See, unlike your run of the mill homefront liberal, the troops recognize that increased numbers translate into decreased causalities and violence (as demonstrated by the surge).

That ain't true. That's just a lie meant to make idiots like you support the holy crusades against teh ebil mozlemz surge. All the surge did was pissing off the "terrorists".

[Maurepas]

See, unlike your run of the mill homefront liberal, the troops recognize that increased numbers translate into decreased causalities and violence (as demonstrated by the surge).

That ain't true. That's just a lie meant to make idiots like you support the holy crusades against teh ebil mozlemz surge. All the surge did was pissing off the "terrorists".

protip - Calling someone an idiot isnt the best way to make a point,

[Natapoc]

I'm sorry to hear that.

All overseas US military personal should return to US soil as soon as possible and all overseas military bases should be shut down.

[Maurepas]

I'm sorry to hear that.

All overseas US military personal should return to US soil as soon as possible and all overseas military bases should be shut down.

Im with you on the first part...however, Id leave the possibility for nations that actually want us there to keep the bases there...

[Epicnopolis]

What are you saying, anyway? That if your nation were attacked by elements headquartered in a foreign country, you'd do... what? Nothing?

Saudi Arabia - why didn't we invade them? They were funded by them, a number of the hijackers were Saudi and in my eyes they were trained Saudi pilots.

...are you fucking kidding me? OK, then, would you have supported an invasion of Saudi Arabia instead, even though al-Qaeda—the organization that actually attacked us, regardless of the nationalities of its members—was in Afghanistan, supported by the Taliban regime? Or do you want to deny that they were ever there, too?

What if the hijackers had been Canadian nationals trained there, or that the organization was receiving funding from citizens of the UK. Should we have invaded them?

FINALLY A REASON TO INVADE CANADIA! (I'm aware of the typo ) WE'RE THE SAME PEOPLE! WE SHOULD JUST MERGE AND BECOME THE CANADIAN STATES OF AMERICA...Or the United States of Canada.

[Californian Mod Haters]

See, unlike your run of the mill homefront liberal, the troops recognize that increased numbers translate into decreased causalities and violence (as demonstrated by the surge).

That ain't true. That's just a lie meant to make idiots like you support the holy crusades against teh ebil mozlemz surge. All the surge did was pissing off the "terrorists".

protip - Calling someone an idiot isnt the best way to make a point,

They're too stubborn to understand reason if you know what I mean...

[Western Mercenary Unio]

I think that, we Finns also need to do a troop surge to Afganistan. I mean, we have about 100 guys there.