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Hydronium
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Postby Hydronium » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hydronium wrote:No, i am not one of those Christians that bashes everybody else. I do try to convert, but I don't go out of my way to bash somebody else.

Ah, an evangelical Christian... do you try and convert Jews?

I actually don't know any Jews.

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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hydronium wrote:No, i am not one of those Christians that bashes everybody else. I do try to convert, but I don't go out of my way to bash somebody else.

Ah, an evangelical Christian... do you try and convert Jews?

Why wouldn't he?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Laxara wrote:I say we all worship the Sun again :3

No way, man, the Sun causes cancer. Worship the Moon.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Ordya wrote:
Menassa wrote:Ah, an evangelical Christian... do you try and convert Jews?

Why wouldn't he?

Some Christians who evangelize believe in Dual-Covenant-Theology.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Hydronium wrote:
Menassa wrote:Ah, an evangelical Christian... do you try and convert Jews?

I actually don't know any Jews.

You don't need to know people to convert them?
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Hydronium wrote:
Ordya wrote:So does the bible.


True. Especially in Kings, Chronicles, and Obadiah (from a non-christian standpoint). And Revelation is creepy to everyone.

At least you accept. The same cannot be said for many other Christians, I'm afraid.
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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ordya wrote:Why wouldn't he?

Some Christians who evangelize believe in Dual-Covenant-Theology.

Dumbasses.
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Postby Rasoan » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm

I was born into a somewhat Christian family, but have taken up irreligioness because I feel religion does not matter, along with my parents (for the most part.)
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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Ordya wrote:
Menassa wrote:Some Christians who evangelize believe in Dual-Covenant-Theology.

Dumbasses.

Not really.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Laxara wrote:I say we all worship the Sun again :3

No way, man, the Sun causes cancer. Worship the Moon.

what about moonburn?
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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ordya wrote:Dumbasses.

Not really.

No, I refer to everyone as dumbasses.
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Postby Hydronium » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ordya wrote:Why wouldn't he?

Some Christians who evangelize believe in Dual-Covenant-Theology.


I really don't know what that means, but I think that the New Testament is the revelation of Jesus Christ as the messiah prophesied in the Old Testament (Jewish holy books). This means that someone can be both Jewish and Christian.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Ordya wrote:
Menassa wrote:Not really.

No, I refer to everyone as dumbasses.

Then how do you differentiate between the dumbasses?
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:56 pm

Hydronium wrote:
Menassa wrote:Some Christians who evangelize believe in Dual-Covenant-Theology.


I really don't know what that means, but I think that the New Testament is the revelation of Jesus Christ as the messiah prophesied in the Old Testament (Jewish holy books). This means that someone can be both Jewish and Christian.

That's not what DCT is.... DCT is that the Covenant with Moses and Abraham still apply and Jews can get into heaven via the Law... and no, Jesus was not prophesied by the Old Testament prophets.

Edit: No once can be Jewish and Trinitarian Chrisitan
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Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby YellowApple » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Ordya wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
I suppose that's solid rationale; having the opportunity for personal choice is always important.

Indeed. People should be educated, but should never told what to do.


Well, I wouldn't go that far; there are things that children *should* be told what to do (like "don't kill people" or "eat your vegetables or you won't get dessert"). But at the same time, I agree that once children reach sufficient maturity to begin to formulate beliefs independently from what their parents (or other applicable guardians) believe, they need to be encouraged to independently determine not only *what* they believe, but *why* they believe it. Once an individual determines his/her beliefs independently, that individual will feel like they're *his*/*her* beliefs and stick to them. This applies not only to spirituality, but also to one's perception of morality as a whole.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Ordya wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No way, man, the Sun causes cancer. Worship the Moon.

what about moonburn?

A lie propagated by anti-Moonists.

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Postby Hydronium » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hydronium wrote:
I really don't know what that means, but I think that the New Testament is the revelation of Jesus Christ as the messiah prophesied in the Old Testament (Jewish holy books). This means that someone can be both Jewish and Christian.

That's not what DCT is.... DCT is that the Covenant with Moses and Abraham still apply and Jews can get into heaven via the Law... and no, Jesus was not prophesied by the Old Testament prophets.


Really now, how about:
Gen 3:15, Gen 22:18, Gen 26:4, Gen 49:10, Num 21:6-9, Num 24:17, Duet 18:15, Psm 16:9-10, Psm 22:all, specifically: Psm 22:14-16-18, Psm 132;11, Isa 7:14, Isa 9:6-7, Isa 40:10-11, Isa 50:6, Isa 52:13-15, Isa 53:all, Isa 60:21, Jer 23:5, Jer 33:14-15, Ezek 34:23, Ezek 37:25, Dan 9:25, Mic 5:2, Mic 7:20, Zech 6:12, Zech 9:9, Zech 9:10, Zech 12:8-10, Zech 13:7, Mal 3:1-4, Mal 4:2-6.

Ref: http://www.biblestudysite.com/foretold.htm (If you want proof)

And Jews may be able to go to heaved through the law... but there have never been any perfect people (Except Jesus)
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Postby Azurand » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Ordya wrote:
Anollasia wrote:I'm Muslim because I was raised that way.

That's the second worst reason to be any religion.

But you still may converted if you want to...so it's also deal with faith, though it's a bit difficult to change your faith. It'd be "why you're in your religion"?

Anollasia, I hope you aren't one of people calling Islam as the "freest religion", aren't you?
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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Menassa wrote:
Ordya wrote:No, I refer to everyone as dumbasses.

Then how do you differentiate between the dumbasses?

I don't; what part "everyone's a dumbass" don't you understand?
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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Hydronium wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's not what DCT is.... DCT is that the Covenant with Moses and Abraham still apply and Jews can get into heaven via the Law... and no, Jesus was not prophesied by the Old Testament prophets.


Really now, how about:
Gen 3:15, Gen 22:18, Gen 26:4, Gen 49:10, Num 21:6-9, Num 24:17, Duet 18:15, Psm 16:9-10, Psm 22:all, specifically: Psm 22:14-16-18, Psm 132;11, Isa 7:14, Isa 9:6-7, Isa 40:10-11, Isa 50:6, Isa 52:13-15, Isa 53:all, Isa 60:21, Jer 23:5, Jer 33:14-15, Ezek 34:23, Ezek 37:25, Dan 9:25, Mic 5:2, Mic 7:20, Zech 6:12, Zech 9:9, Zech 9:10, Zech 12:8-10, Zech 13:7, Mal 3:1-4, Mal 4:2-6.

And Jews may be able to go to heaved through the law... but there have never been any perfect people (Except Jesus)

I'll TG you:
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ordya wrote:what about moonburn?

A lie propagated by anti-Moonists.

it was probably started by the Sun
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Postby Hydronium » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:01 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hydronium wrote:
Really now, how about:
Gen 3:15, Gen 22:18, Gen 26:4, Gen 49:10, Num 21:6-9, Num 24:17, Duet 18:15, Psm 16:9-10, Psm 22:all, specifically: Psm 22:14-16-18, Psm 132;11, Isa 7:14, Isa 9:6-7, Isa 40:10-11, Isa 50:6, Isa 52:13-15, Isa 53:all, Isa 60:21, Jer 23:5, Jer 33:14-15, Ezek 34:23, Ezek 37:25, Dan 9:25, Mic 5:2, Mic 7:20, Zech 6:12, Zech 9:9, Zech 9:10, Zech 12:8-10, Zech 13:7, Mal 3:1-4, Mal 4:2-6.

And Jews may be able to go to heaved through the law... but there have never been any perfect people (Except Jesus)

I'll TG you:


OK (off topic: do you think the new telegram system is good?)

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Postby Breheim » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:01 pm

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Postby Ordya » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:02 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hydronium wrote:
Really now, how about:
Gen 3:15, Gen 22:18, Gen 26:4, Gen 49:10, Num 21:6-9, Num 24:17, Duet 18:15, Psm 16:9-10, Psm 22:all, specifically: Psm 22:14-16-18, Psm 132;11, Isa 7:14, Isa 9:6-7, Isa 40:10-11, Isa 50:6, Isa 52:13-15, Isa 53:all, Isa 60:21, Jer 23:5, Jer 33:14-15, Ezek 34:23, Ezek 37:25, Dan 9:25, Mic 5:2, Mic 7:20, Zech 6:12, Zech 9:9, Zech 9:10, Zech 12:8-10, Zech 13:7, Mal 3:1-4, Mal 4:2-6.

And Jews may be able to go to heaved through the law... but there have never been any perfect people (Except Jesus)

I'll TG you:

Oh shit.
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Postby Azurand » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:02 pm

Ordya wrote:
Ifreann wrote:A lie propagated by anti-Moonists.

it was probably started by the Sun

Forget Sun. Forget Moon. Forget those heathen Gods.

Worship Ass.
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