Why are you your Religion?

[Big Jim P]

I am a self-contained religion. Read the thread before you call someone out.

If I were to begin revering you as a prophet and following your teachings, would that nullify your religious self-containment?

Do you wish to be my minion?

[Mavorpen]

Anyway, I'm not religious per say but a believer of deism. I'd say the reason I'm a deist is because of the strength of William Lane Craig's cosomological argument.

You mean his rehashed argument dating back to Plato that has been utterly destroyed and refuted by both philosophy and science? I mean, you might as well be saying, "guys, don't take me seriously!"

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Everyone in NSG had personally went to Heaven and saw there is no God.

I don't know how you can make that blanket statement.

So, you don't understand my point?

[YellowApple]

Religion is a product of human mind. Ultimately, the most airtight scriptures can be interpreted in widely different ways.

If an american solider shoots and kills an entire civilian family... is it the Army's fault?

News outlets seem to think so whenever some American soldier shoots and kills and entire civilian family in Afghanistan.

[Menassa]

I don't know how you can make that blanket statement.

So, you don't understand my point?

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

[Seperates]

Everyone in NSG had personally went to Heaven and saw there is no God.

No, I went to Hell and saw that there was no Devil, therefore I overthrew God to alleviate human suffering, and then quietly retired into obscurity... because it's easier to destroy the trains than to make them run on time.

[YellowApple]

If I were to begin revering you as a prophet and following your teachings, would that nullify your religious self-containment?

Do you wish to be my minion?

Not particularly. I'm speaking on a hypothetical level.

[Menassa]

If an american solider shoots and kills an entire civilian family... is it the Army's fault?

News outlets seem to think so whenever some American soldier shoots and kills and entire civilian family in Afghanistan.

It is not the organizations's fault for single mistakes, if however the organization is founded upon those mistakes... this is a different story.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

So, you don't understand my point?

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

Obviously, the context of my statement is not that everyone here in NSG had went to Heaven and saw that there is no God there. That is a nonsensical argument at the first place. What I am saying is no one had ever been to Heaven to find out for God there and then, disprove God's existence.

[Big Jim P]

Do you wish to be my minion?

Not particularly. I'm speaking on a hypothetical level.

Then no, it will NOT nullify the self-containment of my religion. Anyone willing to worship me is a minion, a tool, nothing more.

[Caesar Augusta]

@Big Jim P


Whoa dude!That's some Jedi shit right there

[YellowApple]

So, you don't understand my point?

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

How do you know? Perhaps you were asleep when it happened

News outlets seem to think so whenever some American soldier shoots and kills and entire civilian family in Afghanistan.

It is not the organizations's fault for single mistakes, if however the organization is founded upon those mistakes... this is a different story.

Agreed. However, as an unreliable primary source, I have observed various instances of a lack of distinction between those two concepts.

[Seperates]

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

Obviously, the context of my statement is not that everyone here in NSG had went to Heaven and saw that there is no God there. That is a nonsensical argument at the first place. What I am saying is no one had ever been to Heaven to find out for God there and then, disprove God's existence.

I don't need to disprove God though, if he has never been proven in the first place.

[Mavorpen]

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

Obviously, the context of my statement is not that everyone here in NSG had went to Heaven and saw that there is no God there. That is a nonsensical argument at the first place. What I am saying is no one had ever been to Heaven to find out for God there and then, disprove God's existence.

So basically God doesn't exist.

[Menassa]

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

Obviously, the context of my statement is not that everyone here in NSG had went to Heaven and saw that there is no God there. That is a nonsensical argument at the first place. What I am saying is no one had ever been to Heaven to find out for God there and then, disprove God's existence.

But it is possible to look at earth and see that no Godly entity resides there.

[YellowApple]

Not particularly. I'm speaking on a hypothetical level.

Then no, it will NOT nullify the self-containment of my religion. Anyone willing to worship me is a minion, a tool, nothing more.

Then suppose - hypothetically - I did intend to become your minion?

[Big Jim P]

News outlets seem to think so whenever some American soldier shoots and kills and entire civilian family in Afghanistan.

It is not the organizations's fault for single mistakes, if however the organization is founded upon those mistakes... this is a different story.

Or tries to cover up said mistakes.

[Big Jim P]

Then no, it will NOT nullify the self-containment of my religion. Anyone willing to worship me is a minion, a tool, nothing more.

Then suppose - hypothetically - I did intend to become your minion?

then you would become a tool I used. Your worship would not affect MY religion.

[Menassa]

You said 'everyone' I've never been to heaven.... so your statement is false.

How do you know? Perhaps you were asleep when it happened

Perhaps Matrix.

It is not the organizations's fault for single mistakes, if however the organization is founded upon those mistakes... this is a different story.

Agreed. However, as an unreliable primary source, I have observed various instances of a lack of distinction between those two concepts.

It tends to many converts and Ba'ali Teshuvah are turned off from religions by the actions of men more than the actions of God.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Obviously, the context of my statement is not that everyone here in NSG had went to Heaven and saw that there is no God there. That is a nonsensical argument at the first place. What I am saying is no one had ever been to Heaven to find out for God there and then, disprove God's existence.

But it is possible to look at earth and see that no Godly entity resides there.

If your religion believes that a Godly Entity resides on the Earth and then, you had searched the whole Earth and saw no God, then your God is not real. But other religions like Christianity does not believe in a God that lives on Earth, but rather, a transcendental God in a different dimension.

[Big Jim P]

How do you know? Perhaps you were asleep when it happened

Perhaps Matrix.

Agreed. However, as an unreliable primary source, I have observed various instances of a lack of distinction between those two concepts.

It tends to many converts and Ba'ali Teshuvah are turned off from religions by the actions of men more than the actions of God.

Menassa: Since the era of the Prophets, the two cannot be separated.

[Mavorpen]

But it is possible to look at earth and see that no Godly entity resides there.

If your religion believes that a Godly Entity resides on the Earth and then, you had searched the whole Earth and saw no God, then your God is not real. But other religions like Christianity does not believe in a God that lives on Earth, but rather, a transcendental God in a different dimension.

So God doesn't exist.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Obviously, the context of my statement is not that everyone here in NSG had went to Heaven and saw that there is no God there. That is a nonsensical argument at the first place. What I am saying is no one had ever been to Heaven to find out for God there and then, disprove God's existence.

I don't need to disprove God though, if he has never been proven in the first place.

A thing that is not proven is never disproved.

[Menassa]

Perhaps Matrix.


It tends to many converts and Ba'ali Teshuvah are turned off from religions by the actions of men more than the actions of God.

Menassa: Since the era of the Prophets, the two cannot be separated.

Unfortunately humanity declines in spiritual growth from Sinai... we feel as if our Goof our physical body pulls more in the direction of the earth than our soul does to heaven.

[Seperates]

But it is possible to look at earth and see that no Godly entity resides there.

If your religion believes that a Godly Entity resides on the Earth and then, you had searched the whole Earth and saw no God, then your God is not real. But other religions like Christianity does not believe in a God that lives on Earth, but rather, a transcendental God in a different dimension.

No. God resides in the Heavens. Which I never remember being defines as a different dimension in the Bible. We have been to the Heavens, and as of yet have found no God.