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Postby Thafoo » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:27 pm

YellowApple wrote:
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I think the question was "Why?".

"Because God"

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Postby Thafoo » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:28 pm

Beta Test wrote:Im Agnostic. Most of the major religions are greatly flawed in their teachings.

You would like Buddhist Atheism

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Postby Threlizdun » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:43 pm

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Beta Test wrote:Im Agnostic. Most of the major religions are greatly flawed in their teachings.

You would like Buddhist Atheism
I'm not sure how appropriate it is to say someone would certainly like a specific philosophy, particularly when the the individual in question has only posted eight times on the forum.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:45 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Thafoo wrote:You would like Buddhist Atheism
I'm not sure how appropriate it is to say someone would certainly like a specific philosophy, particularly when the the individual in question has only posted eight times on the forum.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:57 pm

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Tlaceceyaya wrote:Thor. Seen any ice giants?


No. Just some fire giants.

If Thor promised to get rid of all the ice giants, and Drizz't Do'Urden actually did get rid of all them, does that mean Drizz't is God?

Drizzt only ever kills one frost giant as far as I can remember, and it's hardly the last of its kind.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:04 am

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And in the 5th through 12th-century Mediterranean the alternatives were better how, precisely?

I await enlightenment.

The Manichaens (spelling?) weren't to bad, and most of the gnostic sects were pretty docile.


If the Paulicians were indeed both gnostic and Manichaean - which I concede is open to interpretation - then the history of Paulician Tephrike under Chrysocheres in the 9th century rather suggests that 'docile' isn't really the first word I'd reach for.

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Postby Merriwhether » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:12 am

I derive my Agnosticism from the personal wisdom that believing firmly that no God exists, just like believing firmly that one does exist, is unscientific and immoderate. Besides, I could otherwise be considered an Atheist, which has already been given a bad name by Atheists that will resort to arguing to make people believe as they do. :roll:
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Postby Arghos » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:13 am

Never much cared for religion myself. Too much self-aggrandizing for my taste.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:14 am

Arghos wrote:Never much cared for religion myself. Too much self-aggrandizing for my taste.

Well, if someone is scholarly in a certain aspect... shouldn't they be given some sort of honor for their knowledge?
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:17 am

Merriwhether wrote:I derive my Agnosticism from the personal wisdom that believing firmly that no God exists, just like believing firmly that one does exist, is unscientific and immoderate. Besides, I could otherwise be considered an Atheist, which has already been given a bad name by Atheists that will resort to arguing to make people believe as they do. :roll:


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Postby Caesar Augusta » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:51 am

Does "I don't give a flying fuck" count as an acceptable answer?
I was raised a Hindu.I really don't care for religion and I believe in god in an "as-needed" basis.

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:02 am

Caesar Augusta wrote:Does "I don't give a flying fuck" count as an acceptable answer?
I was raised a Hindu.I really don't care for religion and I believe in god in an "as-needed" basis.


I just use them as needed and discard them once I am done.
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Postby Heavenly Peace » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:10 am

Why are you your Religion?


Call me an anal grammar nazi but since when could an individual be a religion? A person can be a follower of a certain religious belief or a member of a cult but they cannot be a religion.

A better way of wording the question would have been, Why do you follow your religion?


Anyway, I'm not religious per say but a believer of deism. I'd say the reason I'm a deist is because of the strength of William Lane Craig's cosomological argument. I used to an atheist when I was much younger but having studying philosophy of religion further I feel compelled to believe in a first cause, which could possibly be God though not necessarily the one of classical theism.
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Postby YellowApple » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:34 am

Menassa wrote:
Arghos wrote:Never much cared for religion myself. Too much self-aggrandizing for my taste.

Well, if someone is scholarly in a certain aspect... shouldn't they be given some sort of honor for their knowledge?


That would depend on them being scholarly; I think he was implying that a large number of non-scholarly religious individuals self-aggrandize in their desire to claim "I don't sin and therefore are a better person than you, you dirty sinner".

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:36 am

YellowApple wrote:
Menassa wrote:Well, if someone is scholarly in a certain aspect... shouldn't they be given some sort of honor for their knowledge?


That would depend on them being scholarly; I think he was implying that a large number of non-scholarly religious individuals self-aggrandize in their desire to claim "I don't sin and therefore are a better person than you, you dirty sinner".

Sin does not define greatness... everyone is judged according to their level.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Caesar Augusta » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:36 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Caesar Augusta wrote:Does "I don't give a flying fuck" count as an acceptable answer?
I was raised a Hindu.I really don't care for religion and I believe in god in an "as-needed" basis.


I just use them as needed and discard them once I am done.


Yeah I call upon the magical shape shifting powers of Krishna whenever I'm stoned.I would call upon Jesus but I don't see any use for his power of super carpentry.

Other than that I really don't spare much thought to the gods.My brain has more important things to do.Like avoid having a bad trip.

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Postby YellowApple » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:41 am

Menassa wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
That would depend on them being scholarly; I think he was implying that a large number of non-scholarly religious individuals self-aggrandize in their desire to claim "I don't sin and therefore are a better person than you, you dirty sinner".

Sin does not define greatness... everyone is judged according to their level.


Yes, but not everyone understands that.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:44 am

YellowApple wrote:
Menassa wrote:Sin does not define greatness... everyone is judged according to their level.


Yes, but not everyone understands that.

Don't blame religion for human misconception.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:45 am

Caesar Augusta wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I just use them as needed and discard them once I am done.


Yeah I call upon the magical shape shifting powers of Krishna whenever I'm stoned.I would call upon Jesus but I don't see any use for his power of super carpentry.

Other than that I really don't spare much thought to the gods.My brain has more important things to do.Like avoid having a bad trip.


Always a good endeavor. I have constructed and performed rituals that called down ALL gods and ALL angels/demons at once for my use. Part of my training.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:46 am

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Why are you your Religion?


Call me an anal grammar nazi but since when could an individual be a religion? A person can be a follower of a certain religious belief or a member of a cult but they cannot be a religion.

A better way of wording the question would have been, Why do you follow your religion?


Anyway, I'm not religious per say but a believer of deism. I'd say the reason I'm a deist is because of the strength of William Lane Craig's cosomological argument. I used to an atheist when I was much younger but having studying philosophy of religion further I feel compelled to believe in a first cause, which could possibly be God though not necessarily the one of classical theism.


I am a self-contained religion. Read the thread before you call someone out. :D
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Postby Arghos » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:47 am

Don't blame religion for human misconception.


Religion is a product of human mind. Ultimately, the most airtight scriptures can be interpreted in widely different ways.

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Postby YellowApple » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:49 am

Menassa wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
Yes, but not everyone understands that.

Don't blame religion for human misconception.


I'm not. I'm blaming human misconception for human misconception. I think it's Arghos who is blaming religion for it.

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Postby The Third Nova Terra of Scrin » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:49 am

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Postby YellowApple » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:50 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Heavenly Peace wrote:
Call me an anal grammar nazi but since when could an individual be a religion? A person can be a follower of a certain religious belief or a member of a cult but they cannot be a religion.

A better way of wording the question would have been, Why do you follow your religion?


Anyway, I'm not religious per say but a believer of deism. I'd say the reason I'm a deist is because of the strength of William Lane Craig's cosomological argument. I used to an atheist when I was much younger but having studying philosophy of religion further I feel compelled to believe in a first cause, which could possibly be God though not necessarily the one of classical theism.


I am a self-contained religion. Read the thread before you call someone out. :D


If I were to begin revering you as a prophet and following your teachings, would that nullify your religious self-containment?

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Postby Menassa » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:51 am

The Third Nova Terra of Scrin wrote:Everyone in NSG had personally went to Heaven and saw there is no God.

I don't know how you can make that blanket statement.

YellowApple wrote:
Menassa wrote:Don't blame religion for human misconception.


I'm not. I'm blaming human misconception for human misconception. I think it's Arghos who is blaming religion for it.

Which is my point.

Arghos wrote:
Don't blame religion for human misconception.


Religion is a product of human mind. Ultimately, the most airtight scriptures can be interpreted in widely different ways.

If an american solider shoots and kills an entire civilian family... is it the Army's fault?
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