Why are you your Religion?

[Czechanada]

The DNA of humans has a lot of junk data that serves no purpose.

Some of that junk data has, over time, proven to be worth something. I don't doubt that it all has a purpose. IMHO. And you cannot flat-out call me wrong, does it make you feel better to say that? I haven't attacked anyone, only gave my beliefs. And to be honest, we're all genetically linked, because we're all from the same universe. There's nothing outside of DNA that exists as we and animals do and is living, breathing, growing. Evolution seems so silly to me because of course we're all genetically linked and such, we're all of the same material! But no proof has been found showing the process of macro-evolution. Therefore, I believe my thoughts to be truth, and I don't care whether you believe it or not. That wasn't my intent in stating it.

Now, all of you have a nice day.

I most certainly am not attacking you or your beliefs, friend. I was merely correcting your misguided view of evolution. The reason why all animals are genetically linked is because they all evolved from the same common ancestors.

[Threlizdun]

Oh, no. I understand it also believes in a form of adaptation, but its idea surrounding it is that new things evolve from old things through these "mutations". My idea on adaptation is that old things remain the same since creation, only that they have an innate ability to change resistances to certain environments, temperatures, diseases, etc.. Like the spiders, fish and crabs found deep in caves. They've adapted to cave life by giving up pigmentation, scales for fish, and eyes for seeing, but they are still genetically identical to species living outside those caves who do have eyes and pigmentation and scales. And when bred outside of the caves they begin to regain those attributes after the first generation. I'm not asking anyone to believe as I do, that is just my belief and since you decided to point it out, thought I'd explain.

What do you believe causes these changes if not genetic mutations? Do they simply will themselves to change? No, things do not just magically alter their bodies to adapt to their environments in the natural world, it is simply that those who are the best suited for their environment survive to reproduce, while those that are not die of and cease contributing to the gene pool.

Well, that's your opinion. I don't like you forcing it on me by calling my opinions absurd, but I can't stop you, so that's all I have to say.

Ignoring science is absurd. Ignoring the proof of evolution's occurrence is equally as absurd as claiming that the sun orbits the Earth.

Again, that is your opinion. I have not seen any facts that have proven it in my head. In fact, just the opposite. But we are all entitled to our own beliefs, and mine are different from yours.

DNA, fossil records, geographic distribution of species, the fact that we have to make a new cold vaccine each year. There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. You have yet to provide any evidence to the contrary, and you also failed to explain how a being as complex as a god somehow simplifies the matter.

Some of that junk data has, over time, proven to be worth something.

Like vestigial organs?

I don't doubt that it all has a purpose. IMHO. And you cannot flat-out call me wrong, does it make you feel better to say that? I haven't attacked anyone, only gave my beliefs.

We are not here to oppress you. You submitted a belief that is factually incorrect, and we are correcting it. It is no different from explaining to someone that babies do not come from storks. I'm sorry if this upsets you, but this is not about beliefs, but facts.

And to be honest, we're all genetically linked, because we're all from the same universe. There's nothing outside of DNA that exists as we and animals do and is living, breathing, growing.

Yes, we all are genetically linked, because at some point in every terrestrial species' past, you can eventually find a common ancestor to link it to others. The DNA of Earth's species form a clear a hierarchy, a family tree if you will. This hierarchy clearly indicates that all species are linked by a common ancestor from which all organisms we know of today came from. Why would this pattern exist if this was done through divine intervention? Why would a deity go so far to create something that implied its inactivity in the matter?

Evolution seems so silly to me because of course we're all genetically linked and such, we're all of the same material! But no proof has been found showing the process of macro-evolution.

We have enormous ammounts of proof. Look in the DNA. Look at the fossil record. Here's some sites that may help you. I strongly recommend reading the first one, as it appears you are confused over many aspects of evolution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution
http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... opic_id=14
http://www.teachthemscience.org/evidence
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/
http://www.newscientist.com/topic/evolution

That's just a terribly short list. Go ahead and look at Divair' as well if you need further convincing.

Therefore, I believe my thoughts to be truth, and I don't care whether you believe it or not. That wasn't my intent in stating it.

Now, all of you have a nice day.

While you certainly have every right to believe what you do, it doesn't change the fact that they go in direct opposition to the most basic principles of modern science.

[Tlaceceyaya]

But no proof has been found showing the process of macro-evolution.

What's macroevolution?

[Mavorpen]

But no proof has been found showing the process of macro-evolution.

What's macroevolution?

It's evolution on the scale at or above the level of species (in other words on the scale of separated gene pools as opposed as simply change between alleles in single gene pools).

[Tlaceceyaya]

What's macroevolution?

(Image)

It's evolution on the scale at or above the level of species (in other words on the scale of separated gene pools as opposed as simply change between alleles in single gene pools).

My Point
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Your Head

I was not asking what macroevolution was. I was explaining something using a method of "What's X?" [Explains what X is]

[Mavorpen]

It's evolution on the scale at or above the level of species (in other words on the scale of separated gene pools as opposed as simply change between alleles in single gene pools).

My Point
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Your Head

Not really.

[YellowApple]

My Point
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Your Head

Not really.

I'd reread the text in the image in his post. I'm pretty sure he was already aware of what macroevolution is.

[Czechanada]

Not really.

I'd reread the text in the image in his post. I'm pretty sure he was already aware of what macroevolution is.

The evolution of Apple computers?

[YellowApple]

I'd reread the text in the image in his post. I'm pretty sure he was already aware of what macroevolution is.

The evolution of Apple computers?

Nah; it's obviously the evolution of macros in Microsoft Word.

*nods*

[Menassa]

I'm a christian methodist because one of the gods was a real person and how the bible says everyone should be treated fairly

So; where does the Bible say to treat others fairly?

"...one of the gods..." implying Christianity is polytheistic in nature.

[Mavorpen]

Not really.

I'd reread the text in the image in his post. I'm pretty sure he was already aware of what macroevolution is.

No shit. The explanation wasn't for him.

[YellowApple]

I'm a christian methodist because one of the gods was a real person and how the bible says everyone should be treated fairly

So; where does the Bible say to treat others fairly?

"...one of the gods..." implying Christianity is polytheistic in nature.

Well, it does have both Christ and a Holy Ghost. Even if they are not explicitly referred to as "gods", they are functionally similar enough to be classifiable as such.

[Menassa]

So; where does the Bible say to treat others fairly?

"...one of the gods..." implying Christianity is polytheistic in nature.

Well, it does have both Christ and a Holy Ghost. Even if they are not explicitly referred to as "gods", they are functionally similar enough to be classifiable as such.

I don't think Christianity wants to be called Polytheistic.

[YellowApple]

Well, it does have both Christ and a Holy Ghost. Even if they are not explicitly referred to as "gods", they are functionally similar enough to be classifiable as such.

I don't think Christianity wants to be called Polytheistic.

And North Korea doesn't like being called an oppressive dictatorship. Point?

[Sulamalik]

I don't think Christianity wants to be called Polytheistic.

And North Korea doesn't like being called an oppressive dictatorship. Point?

Isn't there something about a shamrock... and like, how the shamrock is both one leaf and three, so it is with the Holy Trinity?

Also Irish snakes are in that story, somewhere, I think.

[Menassa]

I don't think Christianity wants to be called Polytheistic.

And North Korea doesn't like being called an oppressive dictatorship. Point?

Also, I don't believe Christ has any Godly connotation...

[Xathranaar]

The evolution of Apple computers?

Nah; it's obviously the evolution of macros in Microsoft Word.

*nods*

I think you'd be hard pressed to argue for intelligent design.

[YellowApple]

Nah; it's obviously the evolution of macros in Microsoft Word.

*nods*

I think you'd be hard pressed to argue for intelligent design.

*Badum CRASH!*

And North Korea doesn't like being called an oppressive dictatorship. Point?

Isn't there something about a shamrock... and like, how the shamrock is both one leaf and three, so it is with the Holy Trinity?

Also Irish snakes are in that story, somewhere, I think.

Then it wouldn't be too different from Hinduism; depending on the denomination, the various Hindu gods/goddesses can be interpreted as either individual deities or various forms of the single Brahman (if I understand correctly; I haven't gotten very far into my analysis of Hinduism...).

[United States of Cascadia]

But no proof has been found showing the process of macro-evolution.

What's macroevolution?

That's an absolutely amazing way to show that to people.

[Sulamalik]

Then it wouldn't be too different from Hinduism; depending on the denomination, the various Hindu gods/goddesses can be interpreted as either individual deities or various forms of the single Brahman (if I understand correctly; I haven't gotten very far into my analysis of Hinduism...).

Meh, that's how it was explained to me in elementary school, albeit with really poorly animated cartoons.

I prefer the tawhid, though, a somewhat easier pill to swallow.

[Xathranaar]

I think you'd be hard pressed to argue for intelligent design.

*Badum CRASH!*

Isn't there something about a shamrock... and like, how the shamrock is both one leaf and three, so it is with the Holy Trinity?

Also Irish snakes are in that story, somewhere, I think.

Then it wouldn't be too different from Hinduism; depending on the denomination, the various Hindu gods/goddesses can be interpreted as either individual deities or various forms of the single Brahman (if I understand correctly; I haven't gotten very far into my analysis of Hinduism...).

I am, admittedly, not an expert on all things Hindu, but it's very hard to escape that interpretation reading the Ramayana.

[New Waterford]

I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic faith, and I don't see why I should change.

[Conscentia]

I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic faith, and I don't see why I should change.

Well that's just stubbornness.
Stubbornness is irrational.

[Czechanada]

I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic faith, and I don't see why I should change.

Well that's just stubbornness.
Stubbornness is irrational.

But what if you have a rational reason for being stubborn?

[Conscentia]

Well that's just stubbornness.
Stubbornness is irrational.

But what if you have a rational reason for being stubborn?

I don't think that it's possible to have a rational reason for stubbornness.