Why are you your Religion?

[Hallistar]

My school doesn't encourage under-age sex, but it does still teach about condom use, contraception and diseases to look out for--that's because they know that there are those who won't remain "pure". (Well, and for when they become adults anyways).

I myself am a virgin, but only because of my parents...I think waiting to have sex when you're married is what leads to things like higher divorce rates, only because it makes you want to overlook the characteristics of the other person more imo (Because that means more time before getting funky), and you have might have more unrealistic dreams of what your married life would be like. My parents were like that, and today my dad regrets getting married to my mom.

Nonsense... Jews wait till marriage to have sex and rarely get divorced.... barring my parents.... but they weren't religious all their lives.

More conservative religious interpretations do tend to put more restrictions on divorce and frown on it more (Which is why it was only very recently that some conservative european countries finally legalized divorce) , but I just mean the constant dislike of their partner/regretting getting married, even if they don't get a divorce.

Although I will admit that it's not that alone that might cause you to regret a marriage, you have guys who get rich who probably aren't religious yet still get married to a golddigger because they're hot, etc.

[Menassa]

Nonsense... Jews wait till marriage to have sex and rarely get divorced.... barring my parents.... but they weren't religious all their lives.

More conservative religious interpretations do tend to put more restrictions on divorce and frown on it more (Which is why it was only very recently that some conservative european countries finally legalized divorce) , but I just mean the constant dislike of their partner/regretting getting married, even if they don't get a divorce.

I wouldn't say that's one of the major causes... and certainly not in Judaism... while divorce isn't a desired option it's still available and is used frequently with little to no community recoil... or at least that's what I've experienced.

[Hallistar]

More conservative religious interpretations do tend to put more restrictions on divorce and frown on it more (Which is why it was only very recently that some conservative european countries finally legalized divorce) , but I just mean the constant dislike of their partner/regretting getting married, even if they don't get a divorce.

I wouldn't say that's one of the major causes... and certainly not in Judaism... while divorce isn't a desired option it's still available and is used frequently with little to no community recoil... or at least that's what I've experienced.

I guess..I suppose the overall problem for marriages in the end is just having unrealistic dreams of marital bliss or whatever/not knowing your future partner well/thinking about the honeymoon phase and not what comes afterword, etc.

/I'll end the threadjack : P

[Menassa]

I wouldn't say that's one of the major causes... and certainly not in Judaism... while divorce isn't a desired option it's still available and is used frequently with little to no community recoil... or at least that's what I've experienced.

I guess..I suppose the overall problem for marriages in the end is just having unrealistic dreams of marital bliss or whatever/not knowing your future partner well/thinking about the honeymoon phase and not what comes afterword, etc.

/I'll end the threadjack : P

Could be....

Anyway you said you were religious as a child... what was it.

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[Hallistar]

I guess..I suppose the overall problem for marriages in the end is just having unrealistic dreams of marital bliss or whatever/not knowing your future partner well/thinking about the honeymoon phase and not what comes afterword, etc.

/I'll end the threadjack : P

Could be....

Anyway you said you were religious as a child... what was it.

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I went through different phases (Christian, Muslim, etc. due to my differing relatives), but I never told my parents about any changes, and that was the same case for when I dropped religion alltogether. (I didn't know my dad was an agnostic until like a year ago or so, but my mom would get a heart attack if she found out I wasn't theistic.)

[Menassa]

Could be....

Anyway you said you were religious as a child... what was it.

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I went through different phases (Christian, Muslim, etc. due to my differing relatives), but I never told my parents about any changes, and that was the same case for when I dropped religion alltogether. (I didn't know my dad was an agnostic until like a year ago or so, but my mom would get a heart attack if she found out I wasn't theistic.)

Ah, interesting... what prompted your departure from Christianity?

[Nawaland]

I went to church when I was younger, but I never really believed any of the stories. None of them made sense, and I didn't think that people actually believed them. It wasn't until a few years ago that I realized I didn't believe any of it. Since then, I haven't been back and I consider myself am atheist.

[Anarchist States Of America]

This is a Hard one. with Religion, I believe that it is not and never will be proven there is or is not a God. And the subject of debating whether there is or isn't, is not reasonable because it CAN'T be proven. when it comes down to Evolution and Creationism. I am Split. i believe in Evolution, but you also must remember what is aid earlier, when a creator COULD have made it happen. I also believe after you die, you are reincarnated into a descendant, like great grandson or such. But I also have faith, that nothing may happen after death. So, I guess I would be an Agnostic.

[Great Nepal]

How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.

No.
When born, you dont know anything and therefore are unable to have any beliefs.
Atheism is defined as lack of belief in deities.
Since you are not able to have any beliefs, you lack belief in deities. Ergo, you are atheist when born.

[Anarchist States Of America]

How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.

No.
When born, you dont know anything and therefore are unable to have any beliefs.
Atheism is defined as lack of belief in deities.
Since you are not able to have any beliefs, you lack belief in deities. Ergo, you are atheist when born.

Actually when you are born you know Absolutely nothing. So you would be born agnostic.

[Uryto]

No religion because I don't feel the need for one.

[Great Nepal]

No.
When born, you dont know anything and therefore are unable to have any beliefs.
Atheism is defined as lack of belief in deities.
Since you are not able to have any beliefs, you lack belief in deities. Ergo, you are atheist when born.

Actually when you are born you know Absolutely nothing. So you would be born agnostic.

You dont need to know anything to be atheist. Here is definition, courtesy of Oxford dictionary:-

Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

Since you know absolutely nothing, you lack belief in existence of God or gods.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Tried praying. Didn't feel like anybody was listening. Since this is the only world that we know for sure exists, it deserves our full and undivided attention.

[Anarchist States Of America]

Actually when you are born you know Absolutely nothing. So you would be born agnostic.

You dont need to know anything to be atheist. Here is definition, courtesy of Oxford dictionary:-

Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

Since you know absolutely nothing, you lack belief in existence of God or gods.

No, You DON'T KNOW about it.

[Nazi Flower Power]

No.
When born, you dont know anything and therefore are unable to have any beliefs.
Atheism is defined as lack of belief in deities.
Since you are not able to have any beliefs, you lack belief in deities. Ergo, you are atheist when born.

Actually when you are born you know Absolutely nothing. So you would be born agnostic.

You can be agnostic and atheist at the same time.

[Great Nepal]

You dont need to know anything to be atheist. Here is definition, courtesy of Oxford dictionary:-

Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods

Since you know absolutely nothing, you lack belief in existence of God or gods.

No, You DON'T KNOW about it.

Hence, you dont believe in it. To believe something, you need to know and trust that something.

[Anarchist States Of America]

No, You DON'T KNOW about it.

Hence, you dont believe in it. To believe something, you need to know and trust that something.

But Agnostics trust nothing, Atheists trust the fact of their belief there isn't a god, and babies can't trust, because they don't know, because they are AGNOSTIC.

[Great Nepal]

Hence, you dont believe in it. To believe something, you need to know and trust that something.

But Agnostics trust nothing, Atheists trust the fact of their belief there isn't a god, and babies can't trust, because they don't know, because they are AGNOSTIC.

You are ignoring the definition. Atheism doesn't require belief just disbelief. Here, I will post it again:-
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Show me where it says belief in no god.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Atheists trust the fact of their belief there isn't a god,

There's more than one kind of atheist. Being sure of their beliefs is not a requirement.

and babies can't trust, because they don't know, because they are AGNOSTIC.

Babies are agnostic. They are also atheists. You can't believe in god(s) until you understand the concept of god(s).

[Anarchist States Of America]

But Agnostics trust nothing, Atheists trust the fact of their belief there isn't a god, and babies can't trust, because they don't know, because they are AGNOSTIC.

You are ignoring the definition. Atheism doesn't require belief just disbelief. Here, I will post it again:-
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Show me where it says belief in no god.

It Says DISBELIEVES or LACKS, we already established they don't know a damn thing, so they can't believe anything, which is what Agnosticism is.

[Nazi Flower Power]

You are ignoring the definition. Atheism doesn't require belief just disbelief. Here, I will post it again:-
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Show me where it says belief in no god.

It Says DISBELIEVES or LACKS, we already established they don't know a damn thing, so they can't believe anything, which is what Agnosticism is.

They LACK belief. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?

[Anarchist States Of America]

It Says DISBELIEVES or LACKS, we already established they don't know a damn thing, so they can't believe anything, which is what Agnosticism is.

They LACK belief. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?

but your missing it says Disbelieve, and Lack can also mean no belief at all. For instance I lack money, in reality I ain't got none at all.

[Great Nepal]

They LACK belief. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?

but your missing it says Disbelieve, and Lack can also mean no belief at all. For instance I lack money, in reality I ain't got none at all.

There is huge OR between disbelief or lack of belief. Lets see what that word means...
Or: Used to link alternatives

Now, what does alternatives mean...
Alternatives: Available as another possibility

So, if one of them is true, they are atheist.

[Nazi Flower Power]

They LACK belief. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?

but your missing it says Disbelieve, and Lack can also mean no belief at all. For instance I lack money, in reality I ain't got none at all.

Disbelieve OR lack belief. OR, not AND. Doesn't have to be both.

And that is exactly what lack means. Babies lack belief in God because they have not yet been introduced to the concept.

[Divair]

You are ignoring the definition. Atheism doesn't require belief just disbelief. Here, I will post it again:-
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
Show me where it says belief in no god.

It Says DISBELIEVES or LACKS, we already established they don't know a damn thing, so they can't believe anything, which is what Agnosticism is.

Wrong. So wrong it isn't even funny.



Babies are automatically agnostic atheists at birth.