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Postby Tekania » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:24 pm

Valentir wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Well, maybe he is an "Every Sperm is Sacred" catholic.

No I'm not look at my first post on this thread then come back and tell me I'm a true Catholic.


It's not my place to tell people they are a true anything. I'm not the arbiter of truth. I was making a joke by alluding to that song, namely content of that song with similitude to your own position. It's funny... laugh. hahaha. Geez people in these threads have to be so aggressive and uptight.

.... I on the other hand am a protestant...
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:27 pm

Tekania wrote:
Valentir wrote:No I'm not look at my first post on this thread then come back and tell me I'm a true Catholic.


It's not my place to tell people they are a true anything. I'm not the arbiter of truth. I was making a joke by alluding to that song, namely content of that song with similitude to your own position. It's funny... laugh. hahaha. Geez people in these threads have to be so aggressive and uptight.

.... I on the other hand am a protestant...


I laughed.

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Postby Reggae Magmia » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:36 pm

Tekania wrote:
Valentir wrote:No I'm not look at my first post on this thread then come back and tell me I'm a true Catholic.


It's not my place to tell people they are a true anything. I'm not the arbiter of truth. I was making a joke by alluding to that song, namely content of that song with similitude to your own position. It's funny... laugh. hahaha. Geez people in these threads have to be so aggressive and uptight.

.... I on the other hand am a protestant...

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:41 pm

Valentir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Actually, no you weren't...

Actually Yes I was, it was the way I was raised from birth. Now please if your gonna bash religion get out of my face.

Nope. You were born an implicit atheist and then indoctrinated into catholicism.
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Postby YellowApple » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:58 pm

Seperates wrote:
Valentir wrote:I was born catholic and I'm now a, I don't really know what to call it. I believe that every religion is true. Christianity, Islam, and all the others are true. And that they are different ways of worshiping the same deity. And I despise those who bash religion. No you won't burn in hell but you really need to back off. And for Religious People let them be. Karma gets everyone. ;)

So... you think we should have human sacrifices to Armok the Blood God?


We could commercialize it. That would be pretty good for the economy.

Tekania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Actually, no you weren't...


Well, maybe he is an "Every Sperm is Sacred" catholic.


I'd convert if a whole town started singing and dancing in unison about sperm.

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Postby Maryginia » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:33 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Seperates wrote:So... you think we should have human sacrifices to Armok the Blood God?


We could commercialize it. That would be pretty good for the economy.

Tekania wrote:
Well, maybe he is an "Every Sperm is Sacred" catholic.


I'd convert if a whole town started singing and dancing in unison about sperm.

I wonder if I would get in trouble for singing that at school.
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Postby Xathranaar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:36 pm

Maryginia wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
We could commercialize it. That would be pretty good for the economy.



I'd convert if a whole town started singing and dancing in unison about sperm.

I wonder if I would get in trouble for singing that at school.

If they give you shit for it, claim it is part of your religion.
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Postby Valentir » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:37 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Valentir wrote:Actually Yes I was, it was the way I was raised from birth. Now please if your gonna bash religion get out of my face.

Nope. You were born an implicit atheist and then indoctrinated into catholicism.

How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.

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Postby YellowApple » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:38 pm

Maryginia wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
We could commercialize it. That would be pretty good for the economy.



I'd convert if a whole town started singing and dancing in unison about sperm.

I wonder if I would get in trouble for singing that at school.


I sung it at mine.

If all else fails, just say it's for sex ed.

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Postby Hallistar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:40 pm

Valentir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Nope. You were born an implicit atheist and then indoctrinated into catholicism.

How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.


Atheism is a lack of belief in theism. You're not born an anti-theist or a theist, you're just born as someone who learns about the environment and their surroundings. You can't come up with the bible or whatever on your own.

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Postby Xathranaar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:41 pm

Valentir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Nope. You were born an implicit atheist and then indoctrinated into catholicism.

How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.

Atheism - the lack of belief in god or gods.

How do you have to think about that to be described by it?
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Postby Menassa » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:41 pm

Maryginia wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
We could commercialize it. That would be pretty good for the economy.



I'd convert if a whole town started singing and dancing in unison about sperm.

I wonder if I would get in trouble for singing that at school.

Do you go to a Jewish school?
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Postby Valentir » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:42 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Valentir wrote:How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.


Atheism is a lack of belief in theism. You're not born an anti-theist or a theist, you're just born as someone who learns about the environment and their surroundings. You can't come up with the bible or whatever on your own.

I know that, the guy I was quoting was saying everyone's born an Atheist. I don't believe your born Anti-Theist, Theist or Atheist. You choose what you want from your interpretations and opinions that you develop over time.

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Postby Xathranaar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:43 pm

Valentir wrote:
Hallistar wrote:
Atheism is a lack of belief in theism. You're not born an anti-theist or a theist, you're just born as someone who learns about the environment and their surroundings. You can't come up with the bible or whatever on your own.

I know that, the guy I was quoting was saying everyone's born an Atheist. I don't believe your born Anti-Theist, Theist or Atheist. You choose what you want from your interpretations and opinions that you develop over time.

If you don't believe in a god you are an atheist, whether you call yourself one or not.
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Postby Valentir » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:43 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Valentir wrote:How was I born an Atheist when Atheism is something you have to think about to believe. No one is born atheist, we could be born more agnostic but no a atheist. Its impossible. Theism and Atheism are Beliefs and Opinions not something you are born with. And people say Religions backwards.

Atheism - the lack of belief in god or gods.

How do you have to think about that to be described by it?

Well its more a Opinion. When your born you don't believe in Atheism or Theism because you don't know what they are. Hence you cannot be either.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:44 pm

Valentir wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Atheism - the lack of belief in god or gods.

How do you have to think about that to be described by it?

Well its more a Opinion. When your born you don't believe in Atheism or Theism because you don't know what they are. Hence you cannot be either.

If you don't know what a God is, you don't believe in a God. Therefore you're an atheist.
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Postby Xathranaar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:45 pm

Valentir wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Atheism - the lack of belief in god or gods.

How do you have to think about that to be described by it?

Well its more a Opinion. When your born you don't believe in Atheism or Theism because you don't know what they are. Hence you cannot be either.

I cannot believe how many times this needs to be explained. You don't believe in atheism. Atheism applies to you based upon what you don't believe in.
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Postby Maryginia » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:46 pm

Menassa wrote:
Maryginia wrote:I wonder if I would get in trouble for singing that at school.

Do you go to a Jewish school?

Nope.
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Postby Hallistar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:46 pm

Valentir wrote:
Hallistar wrote:
Atheism is a lack of belief in theism. You're not born an anti-theist or a theist, you're just born as someone who learns about the environment and their surroundings. You can't come up with the bible or whatever on your own.

I know that, the guy I was quoting was saying everyone's born an Atheist. I don't believe your born Anti-Theist, Theist or Atheist. You choose what you want from your interpretations and opinions that you develop over time.


Yeah, over time you choose your interpretations (And I guess whatever your parents tell you as well), but that comes after you're born.

After me and all my friends were born and a couple years passed, we were taught about there being a deity--beforehand we never even thought about the concept of religion and/or theism in the first place. We weren't against religion or for it, it just wasn't something that was part of our lives. We just focused on our present surrounding, and that was to play with cars and sleep.
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Postby Hallistar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:48 pm

Valentir wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Atheism - the lack of belief in god or gods.

How do you have to think about that to be described by it?

Well its more a Opinion. When your born you don't believe in Atheism or Theism because you don't know what they are. Hence you cannot be either.


Atheism isn't a belief--it's a lack of belief. It's not a religion that revolves around the big bang or whatever.

Theism involves deities and believing in them. If you're not involved with that, then you lack theism. You're a-theist.

If you're born thinking jesus and every other deity is stupid, then that would be anti-theism.

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Postby Menassa » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:48 pm

Maryginia wrote:
Menassa wrote:Do you go to a Jewish school?

Nope.

Then don't.
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Postby Valentir » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:48 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Valentir wrote:I know that, the guy I was quoting was saying everyone's born an Atheist. I don't believe your born Anti-Theist, Theist or Atheist. You choose what you want from your interpretations and opinions that you develop over time.


Yeah, over time you choose your interpretations (And I guess whatever your parents tell you as well), but that comes after you're born.

After me and all my friends were born, we were taught about there being a deity--beforehand we never even thought about the concept of religion and/or theism in the first place. We weren't against religion or for it, it just wasn't something that was part of our lives. We just focused on our present surrounding, and that was to play with cars and sleep.

Finally some one who gets what I'm saying. This is what happens over time and Well this sums up my argument are what are you born, Theist or Atheist. Thank You Kind Sir. :)

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Postby Maryginia » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:48 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Maryginia wrote:I wonder if I would get in trouble for singing that at school.


I sung it at mine.

If all else fails, just say it's for sex ed.

I already has sex ed at my school although I could say, I'm secretly testing it out for an addition to the curriculum, asked by the state to do it, the state mandates abstinence only sex-ed anyways, it's a new way to preserve the morals of this nation.
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Postby Hallistar » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:53 pm

Maryginia wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
I sung it at mine.

If all else fails, just say it's for sex ed.

I already has sex ed at my school although I could say, I'm secretly testing it out for an addition to the curriculum, asked by the state to do it, the state mandates abstinence only sex-ed anyways, it's a new way to preserve the morals of this nation.


My school doesn't encourage under-age sex, but it does still teach about condom use, contraception and diseases to look out for--that's because they know that there are those who won't remain "pure". (Well, and for when they become adults anyways).
I myself am a virgin, but only because of my parents...I think waiting to have sex when you're married is what leads to things like higher divorce rates, only because it makes you want to overlook the characteristics of the other person more imo (Because that means more time before getting funky), and you have might have more unrealistic dreams of what your married life would be like. My parents were like that, and today my dad regrets getting married to my mom.

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Postby Menassa » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:54 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Maryginia wrote:I already has sex ed at my school although I could say, I'm secretly testing it out for an addition to the curriculum, asked by the state to do it, the state mandates abstinence only sex-ed anyways, it's a new way to preserve the morals of this nation.


My school doesn't encourage under-age sex, but it does still teach about condom use, contraception and diseases to look out for--that's because they know that there are those who won't remain "pure". (Well, and for when they become adults anyways).
I myself am a virgin, but only because of my parents...I think waiting to have sex when you're married is what leads to things like higher divorce rates, only because it makes you want to overlook the characteristics of the other person more imo (Because that means more time before getting funky), and you have might have more unrealistic dreams of what your married life would be like. My parents were like that, and today my dad regrets getting married to my mom.

Nonsense... Jews wait till marriage to have sex and rarely get divorced.... barring my parents.... but they weren't religious all their lives.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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