House of Commons Debates Same-Sex Marriage

[Nemezree]

Each bill has 3 readings
They approved it on the second reading now 400 to 175
They voted to get it into the third reading 499 to 55
The reason the margins are higher is because the Tories are whipped to vote it through to the 3rd reading
After 3rd reading it goes to the Lords and then the Queen

You missed a step. After the lords it goes back to parliament if there are no changes then it goes to the Queen. If they changed it or made recommendations it gets read again where it can either die, have the changes put in with the recommendations, then go back to the Lords. Or the original can be forced though

Thanks - and now I realise I also missed out committee - which will not be on the floor so that religious groups can contribute

[Souseiseki]

The role of a Member of Parliament is to represent the interests of their constituents in the legislative chamber of this land. MPs should not vote on bills whilst relying merely on their personal whims and self-interests. So if a significant number of constituents write to their representative calling for him to vote against a bill they feel strongly about, what else can he do?


I'm glad to say that the MPs who I share alumnus with voted against the bill.

Why are you glad that your MP is entirely out of step with the majority of the population and doesn't want equality for gay people?

i'm terrified what my MP is going to do

he's labour so he might vote for it but on the other hand he's completely terrible so maybe not

[Naughtania]

Why are you glad that your MP is entirely out of step with the majority of the population and doesn't want equality for gay people?

i'm terrified what my MP is going to do

he's labour so he might vote for it but on the other hand he's completely terrible so maybe not

Check Hansard tomorrow.

[Souseiseki]

You missed a step. After the lords it goes back to parliament if there are no changes then it goes to the Queen. If they changed it or made recommendations it gets read again where it can either die, have the changes put in with the recommendations, then go back to the Lords. Or the original can be forced though

Thanks - and now I realise I also missed out committee - which will not be on the floor so that religious groups can contribute

i am bad at british politics but isn't that basically going to be "religious people cry about their FREEDOMS but we'll do it private style so they can hide it"

[Tagmatium]

Why are you glad that your MP is entirely out of step with the majority of the population and doesn't want equality for gay people?

i'm terrified what my MP is going to do

he's labour so he might vote for it but on the other hand he's completely terrible so maybe not

My local MP's a Tory, but I've no idea what his personal views on this matter are.

[Olde Engelond]

The role of a Member of Parliament is to represent the interests of their constituents in the legislative chamber of this land. MPs should not vote on bills whilst relying merely on their personal whims and self-interests. So if a significant number of constituents write to their representative calling for him to vote against a bill they feel strongly about, what else can he do?


I'm glad to say that the MPs who I share alumnus with voted against the bill.

Why are you glad that your MP is entirely out of step with the majority of the population and doesn't want equality for gay people?

He isn't my MP. I said several of the MPs who were educated at my old school voted against it. Anyway, I am glad that they voted against it as they carried out their duty as Conservatives to defend our country's ancient institutions.

[Souseiseki]

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and then i think parliament ended

[Great Nepal]

and then i think parliament ended

Allright men, raise the royal banner, take arms and serve the queen! The parliamentarians will try to take over but they have already at an end, we shall defeat them...

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

I am glad that they voted against it as they carried out their duty as Conservatives to defend our country's ancient institutions.

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

[Olde Engelond]

I am glad that they voted against it as they carried out their duty as Conservatives to defend our country's ancient institutions.

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

[Nadkor]

So, to summarise:

Gay marriage (electorally divisive anyway) is likely to become a thing in the next year or so
The Tories will likely take the electoral hit
Because the Government failed to carry a majority of Tory MPs they'll struggle to take any of the credit either
And for the same reason a Tory PM's position within his party is weakened

What a great day.

[Neo Art]

So, to summarise:

Gay marriage (electorally divisive anyway) is likely to become a thing in the next year or so
The Tories will likely take the electoral hit
Because the Government failed to carry a majority of Tory MPs they'll struggle to take any of the credit either
And for the same reason a Tory PM's position within his party is weakened

What a great day.

It's kinda cool when a party you don't like gets blamed for passing a law you agree with, but didn't support it enough to win converts. It's sorta what happened with republicans and the fiscal cliff.

[Herrebrugh]

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

Oh, what a nice thing to say

Anyway, go Britain!

[Duvniask]

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

Ugh. It's amazing, how anyone living in the 21st century, can even say that.

Hopefully this will pass, and both Britain and France will legalize gay marriage.

[Nadkor]

Royal Veto hasn't been invoked in 305 years. I'd say it was relevant that her opinion didn't really matter and that she has no control over government.

It's a law that is enacted by her, on the advice of Parliament.

However unlikely that this will be the first time in 305 years the veto occurs, she still retains that power.

Not really, though.

[Delvoir]

It's a law that is enacted by her, on the advice of Parliament.

However unlikely that this will be the first time in 305 years the veto occurs, she still retains that power.

Not really, though.

Does every thread about UK politics have to end in this shitty debate?

[Nadkor]

So, to summarise:

Gay marriage (electorally divisive anyway) is likely to become a thing in the next year or so
The Tories will likely take the electoral hit
Because the Government failed to carry a majority of Tory MPs they'll struggle to take any of the credit either
And for the same reason a Tory PM's position within his party is weakened

What a great day.

It's kinda cool when a party you don't like gets blamed for passing a law you agree with, but didn't support it enough to win converts. It's sorta what happened with republicans and the fiscal cliff.

It absolutely does not happen regularly enough.

[Zanzor]

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

Are you sure it's a sin, it's so hard to tell what is these days of pick and mix Christianity.

[Naughtania]

Not really, though.

Does every thread about UK politics have to end in this shitty debate?

Apparently it does.

But, it is true, the Queen technically has the power to block any bill. If this were challenged in the courts, they would protect her decision. However, if that happened, a constitutional crisis would occur which would in all likelihood bring down the monarchy.

Ergo, she has the power de jure yet not de facto.

[San Leggera]

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

What a very unbigoted opinion.

[Oneracon]

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

According to? [Please select from the options below]

If you're going to say Leviticus 18:22 or any other part of the OT

The Hebrew Bible contains the law for Jews, not for Christians

If you're going to cite Romans or any other NT quote relating to homosexuality

Any mentions to homosexuality being sinful were written in Paul's letters, well after Jesus left the Earth.

If the Son of God truly believed that homosexuality was so sinful, why was it never mentioned in any of the four editions of his biography (the Gospels)? Or for that matter in any other books in the New Testament?

[Neo Art]

It's kinda cool when a party you don't like gets blamed for passing a law you agree with, but didn't support it enough to win converts. It's sorta what happened with republicans and the fiscal cliff.

It absolutely does not happen regularly enough.

I know, but it leaves me giddy as a school girl when it does.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Where is it stated that the duty of Conservatives is to discriminate against homosexuals?

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

It's funny because you didn't answer my question and instead went off on the usual tangential mini-rant about gays being evil sinners.

Thank goodness the majority of MPs don't think the way you do.

[Olde Engelond]

I see as much a problem with discriminating against homosexuals as I do with discriminating against criminals. In other words I don't. Homosexuality is a sin.

It's funny because you didn't answer my question and instead went off on the usual tangential mini-rant about gays being evil sinners.

Thank goodness the majority of MPs don't think the way you do.

Hypocrite. Did you answer my point about the role of an MP? No, you ignored it and focused on my brief mentioning of the way certain MPs, that I had a connexion, with voted

[The UK in Exile]

Does every thread about UK politics have to end in this shitty debate?

Apparently it does.

But, it is true, the Queen technically has the power to block any bill. If this were challenged in the courts, they would protect her decision. However, if that happened, a constitutional crisis would occur which would in all likelihood bring down the monarchy.

Ergo, she has the power de jure yet not de facto.

no. she doesn't.