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If you were an MP in the Commons tonight, how would you vote?

Aye! Yes to same-sex marriage
224
84%
No! No to same-sex marriage
37
14%
Other
7
3%
 
Total votes : 268

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Postby Divair » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Dungeyland wrote:
Afalia wrote:Cameron does genuinely believe in same-sex marriage.

But I don't think he's disappointed in the vote-buying benefits that come with his position.


This. Why is everybody so damn cynical?

This is politics, not a friendly fireside chat.

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Postby Jormengand » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:33 pm

The ayes have it!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:33 pm

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This. Why is everybody so damn cynical?

because tories are pricks and cameron is a prick and people are shocked at the idea cameron might be doing something good for non-prickish reasons

extend this to all politicians as necessary

if anything, they have historical precedent and you're damn idealistic


He's passing it so he and cleggy weggy can finally get married.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Passed with 499-55, awesome.
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Postby Jormengand » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:34 pm

DIVISION!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:34 pm

Did my brain just explode?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:34 pm

Oneracon wrote:
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In the UK it doesn't the church is a state religion, that's why when a law is past like this they have to be made exempt, like with sexual discrimination it's illegal by law so it should be with the Church of England but there is a clause that makes the exempt.

And yet, they still manage to keep God out of the government better than the Americans do.

For example, the Queen is the head of the Church of England and yet she will be signing off on this bill when it becomes law.

Because the Queen is the head of the church, not the government.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:35 pm

Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

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Postby Divair » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:35 pm

Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

Again? What did they just vote on and what are they voting on now?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:35 pm

Divair wrote:
Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

Again? What did they just vote on and what are they voting on now?


Pizza or chinese
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:35 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Oneracon wrote:And yet, they still manage to keep God out of the government better than the Americans do.

For example, the Queen is the head of the Church of England and yet she will be signing off on this bill when it becomes law.

Because the Queen is the head of the church, not the government.

It is her majesty's government.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

What is that?
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Postby Jormengand » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Divair wrote:
Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

Again? What did they just vote on and what are they voting on now?

I dunno, he said it too fast.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Cool shit. Here's hoping it goes through.`

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Dungeyland wrote:
Jormengand wrote:I'm not prejudiced against him. This is just a vote-buying stunt. The biggest vote-buying stunt I have ever seen, aye, but a vote-buying stunt.


It's not a vote buying stunt. Only 53% of the country favours it, and the other 47% would hate the party which supports it. Cameron genuinely believes in it.


Could you source the numbers, please? I had a poll up earlier showing that it was something more along the lines of 62% for to 31% against.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Divair wrote:Again? What did they just vote on and what are they voting on now?


Pizza or chinese

Chinese pizza. :p
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Division -> Mortal kombat scream.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

What is that?

a bunch of MPs shouted AYE and a bunch of MPs shouted no but they can't tell which was the loudest

i am 100% serious
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Postby Jormengand » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

What is that?

They were voting on something about the bill, but not it itself. They all shout aye/nay, and if it's not immediately clear there is a division and they must vote.
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Postby Dungeyland » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:
This. Why is everybody so damn cynical?

because tories are pricks and cameron is a prick and people are shocked at the idea cameron might be doing something good for non-prickish reasons

extend this to all politicians as necessary

if anything, they have historical precedent and you're damn idealistic


Firstly, the shift key - use it.

You can't just call the Tories and Cameron a "prick." You may disagree with somebody, but no need to be rude.
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Postby Tsuntion » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

What is that?


They take a quick vote on something through shouting aye or no. If both sides are equally loud, or close enough the mediator person thingy can't tell, a division is ordered and they vote properly, through filing out and all.
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Postby Divair » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Divair wrote:
Jormengand wrote:DIVISION!

Again? What did they just vote on and what are they voting on now?

No one knows? :p

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Because the Queen is the head of the church, not the government.

It is her majesty's government.

Which would imply she has a position of actual legitimate power.
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Postby Dungeyland » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:
It's not a vote buying stunt. Only 53% of the country favours it, and the other 47% would hate the party which supports it. Cameron genuinely believes in it.


Could you source the numbers, please? I had a poll up earlier showing that it was something more along the lines of 62% for to 31% against.


The numbers are sourced from the Home Office's consultation.
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Postby Divair » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Tsuntion wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:What is that?


They take a quick vote on something through shouting aye or no. If both sides are equally loud, or close enough the mediator person thingy can't tell, a division is ordered and they vote properly, through filing out and all.

They should just hook up computers to the seats and let people vote instantly electronically.

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