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by The Serbian Empire » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:17 pm

by Genivaria » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:19 pm
Vareiln wrote:He's still got three more years. Let's wait till then.

by Frisivisia » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:21 pm
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by Sorgloss » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:22 pm

by Genivaria » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:22 pm


by Mkuki » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:25 pm
Sorgloss wrote:History will probably judge Obama much in the same way it would have judged Lincoln if Lincoln wasn't assassinated. Just look at JFK. It doesn't matter that JFK sent sons and fathers and husbands to fight an unconstitutional and un-winnable war, he got assassinated. I sincerely wish no one assassinates Obama so that history will be honest about him.
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.

by Sorgloss » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:32 pm
Mkuki wrote:How would Lincoln have been judged? As far as I can tell he was the one man who could have actually, successfully, led the US into, through, and out of reconstruction. Johnson and none of his successors were right for the job.

by Genivaria » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:33 pm
Sorgloss wrote:Mkuki wrote:How would Lincoln have been judged? As far as I can tell he was the one man who could have actually, successfully, led the US into, through, and out of reconstruction. Johnson and none of his successors were right for the job.
He would have been seen for the tyrant he was. All we ever care to know is the idea we learned in grade school that he was this big hero who fought against the entire nation because he thought all people were free regardless of skin colour. Turns out, that was really only a minor aspect of him. He ruled with an iron fist with complete disregard for the Constitution. It's no wonder he is Obama's favourite President.

by Mkuki » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:36 pm
Sorgloss wrote:Mkuki wrote:How would Lincoln have been judged? As far as I can tell he was the one man who could have actually, successfully, led the US into, through, and out of reconstruction. Johnson and none of his successors were right for the job.
He would have been seen for the tyrant he was. All we ever care to know is the idea we learned in grade school that he was this big hero who fought against the entire nation because he thought all people were free regardless of skin colour. Turns out, that was really only a minor aspect of him. He ruled with an iron fist with complete disregard for the Constitution. It's no wonder he is Obama's favourite President.
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.

by Sorgloss » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:39 pm
Mkuki wrote:How was he a tyrant? What disregard for the Constitution?

by Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:39 pm
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

by Ruridova » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:39 pm

by Death Metal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:40 pm
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by Rupture Farms co » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:41 pm
Wamitoria wrote:He'll be the Reagan of the left. Remembered and hated, but respected by American Conservatives, but loved by American liberals.

by North Stradia » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:42 pm

by Ruridova » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:43 pm
North Stradia wrote:As a statist liar, just like all the rest of them. After the coming anarcho-capitalist revolution, all the Presidents will rightfully be viewed with disgust.


by Socialist EU » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:43 pm
Mkuki wrote:Sorgloss wrote:
He would have been seen for the tyrant he was. All we ever care to know is the idea we learned in grade school that he was this big hero who fought against the entire nation because he thought all people were free regardless of skin colour. Turns out, that was really only a minor aspect of him. He ruled with an iron fist with complete disregard for the Constitution. It's no wonder he is Obama's favourite President.
How was he a tyrant? What disregard for the Constitution?

by Geilinor » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:44 pm

by Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:44 pm
North Stradia wrote:As a statist liar, just like all the rest of them. After the coming anarcho-capitalist revolution, all the Presidents will rightfully be viewed with disgust.

by Death Metal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:45 pm
North Stradia wrote:As a statist liar, just like all the rest of them. After the coming anarcho-capitalist revolution, all the Presidents will rightfully be viewed with disgust.

by Socialist EU » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:45 pm
North Stradia wrote:As a statist liar, just like all the rest of them. After the coming anarcho-capitalist revolution, all the Presidents will rightfully be viewed with disgust.

by Socialist EU » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:46 pm
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