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Who will be the next SuperPower?

China
68
48%
European Union
22
16%
Russia
16
11%
Japan
6
4%
India
8
6%
Brazil
10
7%
Iran
3
2%
Israel
3
2%
South Korea
1
1%
North Korea
4
3%
 
Total votes : 141

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:36 pm

There won't be anymore superpowers after the United States for a long time to come, and the United States will continue to be a superpower for a hell of a long time to come anyway, despite the pessimistic predictions of imminent collapse by certain Call of Duty players who think they've a good grasp of international relations.

Superpower implies the existence of a state so immense in its power that it has transcended even great power status and no other state, barring maybe one or (at most) two states, who would have to be superpowers themselves can even hope to compete with it on an equal footing.

If many other states rise and do compete with a superpower on an equal footing, then they don't suddenly become superpowers themselves; rather, power, being relative, becomes spread out over multiple great powers and the former superpower loses its superpower status.

A multi-polar system is what we will in all probability return to. To iterate, there are no superpowers in a multipolar system.
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Postby The IASM » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:37 pm

I want to say North Korea if Kim Jung Un gets his act together.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:38 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I don't see how this isn't 100% China 0 % rest

China doesn't have the nuke total of Russia. Nor does China have oil. Oil makes the world go round.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:38 pm

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India and Brazil both have blue water navies.
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Postby Nova Imperius » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:38 pm

That list is quite poor. I mean Isreal

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Postby Benomia » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:39 pm

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Postby Indira » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:41 pm

Currently China I suppose, assuming they can overcome their dependence on trade with America. But I doubt America is in serious decline yet.

NK? Are you kidding me!?! Given how badly their government has f***** them over, I'd say not a chance.

European Union: Have you seen the state of the Euro? Not to mention that they are NOT a single country, but many.

Russia: In need of serious reform, in particular with regards to corruption. And a little too keen on navel-gazing it seems, but that could just be me.

Japan: Capable and willing, they certainly have a good base for it. But their lack of power projection and lack of desire to do so is against them.

India: Growing economy, but corruption works against them.

Brazil: Possibly, I don't know enough about them.

Iran: A religious theocracy, it will always be held back by its aggressively stupidity in having religious leadership.

Israel: Heavily dependent on the US for protection and with so many hostile neighbours, unlikely.

South Korea: Unlikely, but not impossible.

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:41 pm

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Postby Britanania » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:42 pm

Likely scenario; we return to the 18th Century where there were a couple of powers like France, England, and Austria.
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Postby Tiltjuice » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:42 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I don't see how this isn't 100% China 0 % rest


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Postby Asinland » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:42 pm

I'm of the feeling that the idea of a superpower is on it's way out. Every single country on Earth is so dependent on the support of other countries in one aspect or another that none can attain true superpower status.

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Postby Towson » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:44 pm

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But in truth China and The E.U will become powers.Russia, Brazil,India,Japan,Iran Maybe if condition's are right for them.Israel and The Korea's NO You Also Forgot Mexico,Canada,Turkey, Indonesia and South Africa.
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Postby United Roggel » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:45 pm

China: Yes the Red Dragon my friends. China's economy is growing and with a population well above a billion people they are hands down a leading contender. And with a good economy comes the wealth to afford a good blade.


China is defenetly number one on the list.

European Union: While not a country per se, the combined economic and military might of these European Nations shows a very promising chance at the title of a "Super Power". Now it may be argued that because this is a confederation of many independent nations this does not count. Well, I am somewhat inclined to agree to a point. But should they centralize more into who knows the "European Federation" then they would truly be an overnight superpower in my books.


This actually won't happen... lots of people want to actually give up on the EU, They have a big financial issue, besides that, it are still independent nations and they even want to take some power away from the EU.

Russia: Ahh, the Great Russian Bear, while a former power in the image of the once feared and respected Union of Soviet Socialist Republics it has in time lost that same degree of fear and respect and has since been trying to claw its way back to the top. And it may not be that far. Considering the vast energy wealth of this nation and a battle proven military it certainly stands a chance of reclaiming their old title of 'SuperPower'.


Personally i don't think Russia is ready to take up that role again, i think they will "give" it to China or maybe even share it.

Japan: Yes, the economic powerhouse of East Asia. They have a smaller but very well equiped and trained Self Defense Force and a cutting edge economy and technology base. Thier people even have been shown to make great sacrifices for the good of Japan. I truly believe that the people of Japan are its greatest asset and advantage in this competition.


I don't even think that Japan wants to become the next Superpower, it would get a lot of angry faces (ww2 is still very recent).

India: The Indian people have a lot to work with but also face many problems. They have a naturally rich land and the second largest population on the planet. They are a nuclear power but that is not a huge factor considering the amount of nuclear armed nations today. Will India pull ahead and grasp this mantle for its people?

Brazil: The most likely south american nation hands down. With a wealth of natural resources and a decent economy at its disposal Brazil has the abilitary to become a major power. Some would say it is a major regional power, but can it become a SuperPower. That is the question.


Both India and Brazil won't become the next superpower for the next decades, they are just improving themselvs so... i think they both would be fall under the Regional Superpowers...

Iran: Oil rich. Militeristic. Determined. These traits could be enough to make the claim to superpower in its future. All depending how these attributes are harnessed.


Also more a regional Superpower then an actuall world Superpower. Maybe in about a 100/200 years they could make a chance, who knows...

Israel: Small, but extremely powerful for its size. Often faced with invading armies of superior numbers and surrounded they have never failed to defend their homes and drive out the invaders. Israel has a first rate military and a good economy. But is it big enough, to ever make the claim to superpower.


Israel won't become a Superpower.... to untrustworthy, it has way to many enemies... and the world would simply not accept such thing..

South Korea: An economic power and a well equiped military. The south korean people have much in their advantage but lack a wealth of natural resources. Can they ever overcome this and become a Superpower?

North Korea: A very poor economy is contrasted by ample mineral wealth and natural resources. And with their reserves they have the largest military in the world I believe. Can they use this to their advantage without it destroying them? Can they rise above their current situation and achieve a 'Superpower'?


Both of them will never become a superpower as long as the other one exists... maybe one day but not anywhere in the upcoming 100 years.

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Postby Romalae » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:46 pm

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:46 pm

I want Japan to be a superpower, I admire how the citizens are prepared to fight and die for their country, especially during World War 2. However, Japan is in uh... bad economic shape, with their population declining.

China, uhhhh okay they are in great economic numbers for now, but the poverty is still disturbing in China, plus their actions against Vietnam and Philippines is outrageous, and it might have consequences in the future.

Russia, as a military superpower, I agree. The corruption should be wiped away, maybe they can regain their old status as a world superpower.

US is not in a bad shape, they just need to fix their "problem solving machine".

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Postby United Roggel » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:46 pm

Asinland wrote:I'm of the feeling that the idea of a superpower is on it's way out. Every single country on Earth is so dependent on the support of other countries in one aspect or another that none can attain true superpower status.


Now it is, but it will come back in time... it alway's comes back, i guess all that's needed is a war:( (probably Israel-Iran)

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Postby Olde Engelond » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:47 pm

I see no England in the poll. I am disappoint.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:47 pm

Olde Engelond wrote:I see no England in the poll. I am disappoint.

England is already a superpower.
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Postby Caninope » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:47 pm

The most likely system for the next few decades will be a mixed unipolar/multipolar system, as I see it.

The United States will continue to be the most powerful state by quite a margin. The US will continue being a superpower, and arguably even a hyperpower. It will not be the only player at the table though. It will be constrained, to an extent, by the inferior great powers. Despite this, it will continue to be the only superpower through a combination of it's massive cultural influence, political capital, natural resources, technological capability, and conventional military might.

On a slightly lesser scale will be the "great powers". These will inevitably include India and China. China will face serious growing pains in the next decade or two, as it moves away from an export oriented economy. China's future growth will not come from exports, but consumption. India will do it's own thing, just like now. Russia will peak soon, and begin to decline. This will be caused by decreased demand for petroleum products as cheap alternatives are produced, destroying the rentier state. Additionally, I predict that the siloviki will break up with, if not the death of Putin, the death of Putin's sucessor. I'm unsure on Brazil, Britain, Japan and Germany. All have the capability to be great powers in the next century or so, but it's currently uncertain.
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Postby Divair » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:48 pm

EU if it federalizes.

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Postby The British Royal Crown » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:49 pm

What...

You think that North Korea has the chance to usurp the US as a superpower? And Israel? Exactly where are you getting your facts anyway?

If anything, I'd say Brazil, China, and maybe Russia if the Russians all stop dying.
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Postby Ryaanistan » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:49 pm

Most likely China or Japan. One of them. Japan isn't technically a "superpower" in terms of weapons, but they certainly have the technology, GDP, and population to brag.
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Postby United Roggel » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:49 pm

Benomia wrote:
Olde Engelond wrote:I see no England in the poll. I am disappoint.

England is already a superpower.


England is a regional power;)

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Postby Olde Engelond » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Benomia wrote:
Olde Engelond wrote:I see no England in the poll. I am disappoint.

England is already a superpower.


A 'great power' yes but I certainly wouldn't describe it as a superpower.
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Postby Caninope » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Olde Engelond wrote:I see no England in the poll. I am disappoint.

Part of the problem is the fact that England is not a sovereign state.
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