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Postby Slembana » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:14 am

I do not think that a nuclear war will happen. A country would not nuke another country, because the original country would be nuked by the country that it nuked. Soon, everyone would start nuking each other, and it would be chaos.
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:15 am

Vashtanaraada wrote:Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.....Israel has nukes.

So?

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:40 am

Nuclear war has always been on the cards and always will be. If anything on the scale of the two world wars is seen again, I have little doubt that the nations involved will use everything at their disposal, including nuclear weapons.
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Postby Sidhae » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:51 am

If wars are waged over dwindling resources, nuking the enemy controlling them would kind of defeat the whole purpose of war.

Suppose you are running out of agricultural land and fresh water due to overexploitation and climate change, and your neighbor has just enough to provide for your population for the next 100 years or so. Reducing that land and water to an irradiated wasteland with pools of toxic sludge by a nuclear attack and risking your own scarce and precious usable land irradiated by the enemy counter-attack as well is the exact opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.

Total nuclear war is a fundamentally-obsolete concept and I don't see that happening in the future, although I do not entirely discount the possibility of a limited tactical-scale nuclear strikes against military targets.

Future wars will be won with computers, not missiles. Cyberspace is the new battlefront of the 21st century.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:38 am

Divair wrote:
Vashtanaraada wrote:Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.....Israel has nukes.

So?

If Israel launches nukes Russia will answer back.
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:39 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:So?

If Israel launches nukes Russia will answer back.

Why would Israel launch a nuke at Russia?

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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:41 am

Divair wrote:
CTALNH wrote:If Israel launches nukes Russia will answer back.

Why would Israel launch a nuke at Russia?

I think he meant Israel against Iran...
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:41 am

Divair wrote:
CTALNH wrote:If Israel launches nukes Russia will answer back.

Why would Israel launch a nuke at Russia?

Israel will launch nukes at Iran and Russia will answer back then America and China join in then the rest nuclear powers and we have ourselves a huge cluster fuck.
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:43 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:Why would Israel launch a nuke at Russia?

Israel will launch nukes at Iran and Russia will answer back then America and China join in then the rest nuclear powers and we have ourselves a huge cluster fuck.

Why would Israel launch a nuke at Iran and why would Russia give a shit about Iran?

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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:43 am

Nuclear warfare is merely the next logical step in evolution, and the prologue to the next chapter of human history.
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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:43 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:Why would Israel launch a nuke at Russia?

Israel will launch nukes at Iran and Russia will answer back then America and China join in then the rest nuclear powers and we have ourselves a huge cluster fuck.

I think the Israelis wouldn't launch nukes without an extremely good reason... Like NK not launching nukes against South Korea.
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Postby Red Centurion Legionaries » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:44 am

To me, a nuclear conflict is unlikely, but possible. But, even if it happen, it will happen in the far, far future when all capable nation are desperate for resources.

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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:44 am

Divair wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Israel will launch nukes at Iran and Russia will answer back then America and China join in then the rest nuclear powers and we have ourselves a huge cluster fuck.

Why would Israel launch a nuke at Iran and why would Russia give a shit about Iran?

Israel and Iran hate each other like Jews and Nazi's. Russia is Iran's BFF.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:45 am

Divair wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Israel will launch nukes at Iran and Russia will answer back then America and China join in then the rest nuclear powers and we have ourselves a huge cluster fuck.

Why would Israel launch a nuke at Iran and why would Russia give a shit about Iran?

If you haven't heard Russia is supplying Iran with guns!?
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:46 am

British Prussia wrote:Israel and Iran hate each other like Jews and Nazi's.

Not really, no. Nowhere near the point at which either would launch nukes. The USSR and US were closer to nuclear war than Israel and Iran will ever be.

British Prussia wrote:Russia is Iran's BFF.

Hardly. Definitely not close enough to launch nukes, thus resulting in literal suicide.

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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:46 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:Why would Israel launch a nuke at Iran and why would Russia give a shit about Iran?

If you haven't heard Russia is supplying Iran with guns!?
S 400 anti aircraft system?That didn't get sold at the end and they just gave them blueprints?

And obviously them selling weapons means that they'll sacrifice themselves if Iran was nuked.


Have ANY of you studied international relations at all?

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Postby Merriwhether » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:46 am

Democratic Republic of Stephan wrote:Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. Personally, I think nations with such capabilities may choose this as an alternative to conventional warfare (seeing as how it will be a waste of resources either way). What are your thoughts?


If it was going to happen, it already would've. There's a lot of idiots and crazy countries that have it, but the closest any has ever come to using it is North Korea's epic dud last year. Even in a nation did use a nuke, it's not like they'd all go nuts and fire them off randomly. That might be how individual people would act, but not the people who actually have access to nuclear arms. they're a bit more... experienced. Only RPers on NS go crazy and bomb the whole world the instant someone threatens with a nuclear bomb.
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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:48 am

British Prussia wrote:
Divair wrote:Why would Israel launch a nuke at Iran and why would Russia give a shit about Iran?

Israel and Iran hate each other like Jews and Nazi's. Russia is Iran's BFF.

Iran =/= nazi's
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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:49 am

Divair wrote:
British Prussia wrote:Israel and Iran hate each other like Jews and Nazi's.

Not really, no. Nowhere near the point at which either would launch nukes. The USSR and US were closer to nuclear war than Israel and Iran will ever be.

British Prussia wrote:Russia is Iran's BFF.

Hardly. Definitely not close enough to launch nukes, thus resulting in literal suicide.

... True... Argh... I didn't think about it that much...

But my first point is still valid. They hate each other. They faught wars against each other in the past, they were very violent.
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:49 am

British Prussia wrote:
Divair wrote:Not really, no. Nowhere near the point at which either would launch nukes. The USSR and US were closer to nuclear war than Israel and Iran will ever be.


Hardly. Definitely not close enough to launch nukes, thus resulting in literal suicide.

... True... Argh... I didn't think about it that much...

But my first point is still valid. They hate each other. They faught wars against each other in the past, they were very violent.

Israel and Iran have never been at war.

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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:51 am

Sidhae wrote:If wars are waged over dwindling resources, nuking the enemy controlling them would kind of defeat the whole purpose of war.

I agree with that.


Total nuclear war is a fundamentally-obsolete concept and I don't see that happening in the future, although I do not entirely discount the possibility of a limited tactical-scale nuclear strikes against military targets.

Unless a nation was on it's last legs and flat-out refused to surrender, and was lead by zealous nationalists, then it could happen.


Future wars will be won with computers, not missiles. Cyberspace is the new battlefront of the 21st century.


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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:53 am

Divair wrote:
British Prussia wrote:... True... Argh... I didn't think about it that much...

But my first point is still valid. They hate each other. They faught wars against each other in the past, they were very violent.

Israel and Iran have never been at war.

Shit what is with me today... I thought Iran was in the Arab-Israeli war... Ugh... Scratch everything I've said... Well... This is embarrassing...
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:53 am

British Prussia wrote:
Divair wrote:Israel and Iran have never been at war.

Shit what is with me today... I thought Iran was in the Arab-Israeli war... Ugh... Scratch everything I've said... Well... This is embarrassing...

It's fine.

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Postby Kalmarium » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:53 am

British Prussia wrote:
Divair wrote:Israel and Iran have never been at war.

Shit what is with me today... I thought Iran was in the Arab-Israeli war... Ugh... Scratch everything I've said... Well... This is embarrassing...

Well go home, you're drunk.
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Postby British Prussia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:56 am

Kalmarium wrote:
British Prussia wrote:Shit what is with me today... I thought Iran was in the Arab-Israeli war... Ugh... Scratch everything I've said... Well... This is embarrassing...

Well go home, you're drunk.

Nah, it's not that... I'm just reeling from... A watch salesman told me the watch which I was so keen on getting was about NZD$125,000. That's pretty much an E-Class Mercedes Benz.
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