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Postby Democratic Republic of Stephan » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:12 pm

Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. Personally, I think nations with such capabilities may choose this as an alternative to conventional warfare (seeing as how it will be a waste of resources either way). What are your thoughts?
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:13 pm

Democratic Republic of Stephan wrote:Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. What are your thought?

I don't think you know how this works yet, you have to state your opinion. Don't just ask us for it.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:15 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Democratic Republic of Stephan wrote:Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. What are your thought?

I don't think you know how this works yet, you have to state your opinion. Don't just ask us for it.

He did, he said he thinks it's likely. Granted that's not much but it is an opinoin.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:21 pm

No, the odds of it happening are below 0%.
No nation is going to use nuclear weapons on another.
Ending the world is childish and counterproductive to everything.

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Postby Thafoo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, the odds of it happening are below 0%.
No nation is going to use nuclear weapons on another.
Ending the world is childish and counterproductive to everything.

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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, the odds of it happening are below 0%.
No nation is going to use nuclear weapons on another.
Ending the world is childish and counterproductive to everything.

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As ridiculous as North Korea is, even they don't want to be turned to ash/glass.

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Postby Thafoo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:26 pm

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:
Thafoo wrote:
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As ridiculous as North Korea is, even they don't want to be turned to ash/glass.

Well, given the state of their badly constructed missiles, they may end up doing it to themselves.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:44 pm

No. The idea of any state with enough firepower to threaten world stability declaring a nuclear conflict is, quite frankly, absurd.

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Postby Herador » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:45 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, the odds of it happening are below 0%.
No nation is going to use nuclear weapons on another.
Ending the world is childish and counterproductive to everything.

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I'd bet on Iran trying it... maybe... someday... possibly.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:29 pm

Democratic Republic of Stephan wrote:Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. Personally, I think nations with such capabilities may choose this as an alternative to conventional warfare (seeing as how it will be a waste of resources either way). What are your thoughts?


Except for oil, every natural resource on Earth can be found in space. Therefore, I don't believe that nuclear war will result from 'lack of resources'. Religious fundamentalism, maybe, but not 'resources'.
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:30 pm

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, the odds of it happening are below 0%.
No nation is going to use nuclear weapons on another.
Ending the world is childish and counterproductive to everything.

The chances of anything hapening are never under 0 percent, and the chances of a nuclear war are above 0 percent, just barely above it.

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:39 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:No, the odds of it happening are below 0%.
No nation is going to use nuclear weapons on another.
Ending the world is childish and counterproductive to everything.

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Yep. A country that developed nuclear weapons to deter foreign aggression because their laughably outdated military has long passed its cold-war era glory days will use nuclear weapons for shits and giggles......
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:40 pm

Herador wrote:I'd bet on Iran trying it... maybe... someday... possibly.

Iran? Nah. They may be crazy fundamentalists, but they have a good sense of self-preservation. Anymore, at least. I'd bet on India/Pakistan conflict, personally.
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Postby Herador » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:57 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Herador wrote:I'd bet on Iran trying it... maybe... someday... possibly.

Iran? Nah. They may be crazy fundamentalists, but they have a good sense of self-preservation. Anymore, at least. I'd bet on India/Pakistan conflict, personally.

I actually forgot those two hated each other.
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Postby Augarundus » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:22 am

Well, Kagan and Meirscheimer both seem to conclude that great power wars are still a major possibility in the modern era (and that the promise of "perpetual peace" - like the peace of the 19th century - is illusory). The Human Security Report also critiques the theory and empirics of nuclear deterrence.

So, yes. It is entirely possible that, by either intentional or miscalculated decision, a nuclear war will wipe us all off the face of the earth.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:05 am

Democratic Republic of Stephan wrote:Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. Personally, I think nations with such capabilities may choose this as an alternative to conventional warfare (seeing as how it will be a waste of resources either way). What are your thoughts?

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:08 am

Augarundus wrote:Well, Kagan and Meirscheimer both seem to conclude that great power wars are still a major possibility in the modern era (and that the promise of "perpetual peace" - like the peace of the 19th century - is illusory). The Human Security Report also critiques the theory and empirics of nuclear deterrence.

So, yes. It is entirely possible that, by either intentional or miscalculated decision, a nuclear war will wipe us all off the face of the earth.


I doubt it would wipe us all off the face of the earth. Firstly, there are several nations that would not be targeted (ones in Africa spring to my mind first and foremost). Secondly, nuclear winter is more or less a myth.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:10 am

Grenartia wrote:
Augarundus wrote:Well, Kagan and Meirscheimer both seem to conclude that great power wars are still a major possibility in the modern era (and that the promise of "perpetual peace" - like the peace of the 19th century - is illusory). The Human Security Report also critiques the theory and empirics of nuclear deterrence.

So, yes. It is entirely possible that, by either intentional or miscalculated decision, a nuclear war will wipe us all off the face of the earth.


I doubt it would wipe us all off the face of the earth. Firstly, there are several nations that would not be targeted (ones in Africa spring to my mind first and foremost). Secondly, nuclear winter is more or less a myth.

Though Nuclear rain isn't.
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Postby New Sapienta » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:39 am

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Thafoo wrote:
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Yep. A country that developed nuclear weapons to deter foreign aggression because their laughably outdated military has long passed its cold-war era glory days will use nuclear weapons for shits and giggles......

If the regime falls, which it will, the nukes could fall into a desperate military splinter group.

Same scare as when the Soviet Union fell.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:25 am

CTALNH wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I doubt it would wipe us all off the face of the earth. Firstly, there are several nations that would not be targeted (ones in Africa spring to my mind first and foremost). Secondly, nuclear winter is more or less a myth.

Though Nuclear rain isn't.


Yes, but in all the nuclear detonations, its only been documented once.
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Postby Cameroi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:28 am

there are other very specific dangers that are far more clear and eminent.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:33 am

Democratic Republic of Stephan wrote:Does anybody think a nuclear war may occur in the near future? Given the dwindling natural resources of the Earth and the current political tensions, this seems like a possibility. Personally, I think nations with such capabilities may choose this as an alternative to conventional warfare (seeing as how it will be a waste of resources either way). What are your thoughts?

I think that it is far more likely that nuclear war would erupt by accident instead of actual intention.
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Postby Vashtanaraada » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:05 am

Nuclear WAR will not arise, however Nuclear TERRORISM could easily arise, and even trigger a war...
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Postby Divair » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:09 am

MAD.


Nuclear war will never happen.

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Postby Vashtanaraada » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:13 am

Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.....Israel has nukes.
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