No, because it's given to me of their own free will through non-coercive means.
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by Yandere Schoolgirls » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:18 am

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by Sibirsky » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:19 am
Wisconsin9 wrote:This shit again? Look, if you don't like it, then vote for someone who'll lower taxes. If they don't win or if they stab you in the back, leave the country. Now please quit bitching and let the rest of us enjoy our protection from violent criminals and foreign invasions.

by Yandere Schoolgirls » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:19 am
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by Duvniask » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:21 am
Sibirsky wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:This shit again? Look, if you don't like it, then vote for someone who'll lower taxes. If they don't win or if they stab you in the back, leave the country. Now please quit bitching and let the rest of us enjoy our protection from violent criminals and foreign invasions.
Those things can be privately funded. In any case, that is what we are doing. Oh and our, "bitching" is actually called "freedom of speech."
by Sibirsky » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:21 am

by Wisconsin9 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:22 am
Sibirsky wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:This shit again? Look, if you don't like it, then vote for someone who'll lower taxes. If they don't win or if they stab you in the back, leave the country. Now please quit bitching and let the rest of us enjoy our protection from violent criminals and foreign invasions.
Those things can be privately funded. In any case, that is what we are doing. Oh and our, "bitching" is actually called "freedom of speech."

by Yaltabaoth » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:22 am

by Frisivisia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:23 am
Sibirsky wrote:Wisconsin9 wrote:This shit again? Look, if you don't like it, then vote for someone who'll lower taxes. If they don't win or if they stab you in the back, leave the country. Now please quit bitching and let the rest of us enjoy our protection from violent criminals and foreign invasions.
Those things can be privately funded. In any case, that is what we are doing. Oh and our, "bitching" is actually called "freedom of speech."

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by Yaltabaoth » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:24 am

by The Peoples Republic of Minnesota » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:27 am
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.
theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.
Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.
TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP
In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.
Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3
Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1
The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.
Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.
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