Taxes are theft

[Condunum]

No, not really. Americans rebelled against taxation without representation. You have representation, genius.

I don't.

Granted. You're too young to vote, and most likely, completely misinformed in your youth.

[Thafoo]

Guess what? The "American" way of doing things includes paying taxes.

And, as well, rebelling against taxes through sheer force.

You said earlier that you don't want to incite violence with this. What gives?

[The Black Forrest]

No, not really. Americans rebelled against taxation without representation. You have representation, genius.

I don't.

Sure you do. Age doesn't matter.

[AiliailiA]

You refer to the children as "they". Where would you fit in a society like this?

Hopefully I would be owning one of those factories and employing people like you to work for me.

You're going to own a black market factory? Making what? Crack cocaine?

[Chinese Regions]

No, not really. Americans rebelled against taxation without representation. You have representation, genius.

I don't.

Then move to another country.

[The Black Forrest]

I don't.

Granted. You're too young to vote, and most likely, completely misinformed in your youth.

But elected reps still like to hear from the kiddies. Especially, if they have a good point. An-cap arguments will probably get a smile.

[Condunum]

And, as well, rebelling against taxes through sheer force.

Rebelling against unrepresentative democracy. Not taxes.

didn't the founding fathers suppress a tax revolt shortly after the revolution ):

Yep. The Whiskey Rebellion, if memory serves.

The reaction to The Whiskey Rebellion was most certainly justified, was t not?

[Condunum]

Granted. You're too young to vote, and most likely, completely misinformed in your youth.

But elected reps still like to hear from the kiddies. Especially, if they have a good point. An-cap arguments will probably get a smile.

And that is why I've been writing to my congressmen since I was 14

[Neo Art]

And, as well, rebelling against taxes through sheer force.

You said earlier that you don't want to incite violence with this. What gives?

You realize this is the same guy that argued back in September that republicans should threaten violence in order to prevent Obama from getting re-elected, right?

[Thafoo]

You said earlier that you don't want to incite violence with this. What gives?

You realize this is the same guy that argued back in September that republicans should threaten violence in order to prevent Obama from getting re-elected, right?

Yes, I should have realized this guy is absurd.

[ArghNeedAName]

If you consent by living here, not theft. Just like paying rent.

End thread.

I don't consent to unconstitutional theft.

The government gives back. The government spends trillions on the military in order to keep the land you live in secure. The government pays for policemen to keep your local area safe and for prisons to keep criminals out of harm's way. The government spends money to build and maintain the roads and other infrastructure outside your house. Presumably you are enjoying living off a paid job right now, but what happens if this job dissappears, as so many did in the last recession? The government will give you money to maintain yourself. The government will pay for your healthcare in retirement.

[Conserative Morality]

The reaction to The Whiskey Rebellion was most certainly justified, was t not?

Thousands of militia, not a single battle, and a couple dozen arrests? Sounds good to me.

[Nua Corda]

Ughhh.... not this shit again...

[Thafoo]

Ughhh.... not this shit again...

This shit again.

[Republica Newland]

If I were little boy playing with a ball one the playground, and someone took said ball against my will or conned me out of it, then such an act would be considered theft.

theft (thft)
n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.

Now, if a person was say, jealous of me and my blue ball he could form a council or gang of children and then have me conform to certain playground code of etiquette. I might enjoy living under such a council for awhile without fear of bullying, but there might be a day when that group comes and take my ball away. If this is against my will or they do not have my permission to do so, all the while not providing the service we agreed upon, then it is still theft.

TAXES ARE THEFT PERPETUATED BY A LARGE ORGANIZED GROUP

In retrospect some may argue that well "THE US HAS THE POWER TO TAX". Yes, this is true, but it has limitations.

Among these are:
Direct taxes must be apportioned amongst states.
Article I, Section 2, Clause 3

Indirect taxes must be uniform.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

The obamacare tax(ruled a penalty) and income taxes overstep this crucial boundary in the law as they're both direct taxes that are not apportioned.

Basically, taxes are theft; a fact that has become increasingly apparent with the expansion of the welfare state in which taxes are used to unilaterally benefit one party at the expense of another.

I'm for Tax Choice and Foot Voting.

[Constaniana]

You refer to the children as "they". Where would you fit in a society like this?

Hopefully I would be owning one of those factories and employing people like you to work for me.

I would never work for you, just saying. I'd prefer getting an education , becoming qualified for a higher-paying job, and then gladly giving a small portion of my income to help others get an education. If children had to work full time then they'd WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE CLASSES, because they'd have to be constantly working in a low-paying, miserable job instead.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

I don't.

Then move to another country.

Make me.

[Yaltabaoth]

Hopefully I would be owning one of those factories and employing people like you to work for me.

I would never work for you, just saying. I'd prefer getting an education , becoming qualified for a higher-paying job, and then gladly giving a small portion of my income to help others get an education. If children had to work full time then they'd WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE CLASSES, because they'd have to be constantly working in a low-paying, miserable job instead.

Oh, you and your logic! Clearly this isn't the thread for such things.

[Thafoo]

Then move to another country.

Make me.

Then stop complaining about the nation that you are apparently satisfied enough with to stay in.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Then move to another country.

Make me.

No need. If you don't pay taxes, you'll suffer for it.

[Constaniana]

I would never work for you, just saying. I'd prefer getting an education , becoming qualified for a higher-paying job, and then gladly giving a small portion of my income to help others get an education. If children had to work full time then they'd WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE CLASSES, because they'd have to be constantly working in a low-paying, miserable job instead.

Oh, you and your logic!

I should probably stop now, before I give Schoolgirls a headache with it.

[Nidaria]

Taxes are not theft because they are necessary for the support of one's rulers. If the government takes taxes for the sole purpose of enriching itself, then it is theft.

[United Prefectures of Appia]

Make me.

No need. If you don't pay taxes, you'll suffer for it.

Agreed, Schoolgirl will likely be fed to a tentacle monster.

[Condunum]

Then move to another country.

Make me.

I'm sure the government will be awed by your incredible power from those two words.

[Souseiseki]

Make me.

I'm sure the government will be awed by your incredible power from those two words.

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