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What branch do you serve?

Army
16
21%
Navy
8
10%
Marine Corps
9
12%
Air Force
6
8%
Coast Guard
1
1%
Contractor (or Civilian)
9
12%
Other Nation's Military
29
37%
 
Total votes : 78

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:30 pm

Thesan wrote:I'd rather go to live in a sewer than serve my s**tty country giving a whole year of my life to the army

Seriously: Why? It gives you a whole year of indecent life and a salary that is so low that you can only buy some apples... I'd rather pass an year studying in a university or working and help my country's economy... this for me is more useful for my country and also better paid... not mentioning the fact that the military gets a damn load of public money that would be more useful to the education or the healthcare. ;)


hmm.

The Job I'm getting in the Royal Navy pays better than any job i could get on civie street when i leave university.
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Postby Thesan » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:42 pm

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Thesan wrote:I'd rather go to live in a sewer than serve my s**tty country giving a whole year of my life to the army

Seriously: Why? It gives you a whole year of indecent life and a salary that is so low that you can only buy some apples... I'd rather pass an year studying in a university or working and help my country's economy... this for me is more useful for my country and also better paid... not mentioning the fact that the military gets a damn load of public money that would be more useful to the education or the healthcare. ;)


hmm.

The Job I'm getting in the Royal Navy pays better than any job i could get on civie street when i leave university.

Oh well of course I was talking about the Italian Republican Army... you have to join it as a volunteer now and when it was compulsory it was payed (as we say) "two cucumbers and a pepper"... :)
Maybe this is also one of the reasons why we are the less patriotic people of Europe... :lol:
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Postby Aleckandor » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:07 pm

I've always wanted to join the Air Force or Army (United States) when I'm old enough, but I do not condone the evisceration of civilians unless civilians willfully engage me or my compatriots. I want to join not out of blind patriotism or this outlandish love for all things military, but because I consider myself a somewhat wayward soul; I seriously don't know how to justify my wish to come into a life of soldiery. Maybe it's because I don't want to contribute to my respective society, but rather take away that of another which is opposed to mine. Maybe I just have death-wish in armed conflict. But if I really do wish to become a bane to human solidarity and an anathema to all peace-lovers, then so be it.

That, or I'll just go to a private college, work a little to start saving in the process, graduate with above-decent degrees, NOT join the Armed Forces of my country of origin, find a woman who sincerely loves me, possibly get it on with her, marry her, definitely get it on with her, have 2-3 healthy offspring, try to raise them well for the next approximate two decades, send them on their way wherever they would like to go, keep working until a retire, die peacefully on a bed, have some of my body donated to the scientific community for research (given that there is anything useful they could find in me) and bury the rest of myself in a hole in the ground. Possibly go into a next life, if there does exist such a concept (please don't hit me; I said 'if').

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Postby Czechanada » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:26 pm

No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:47 pm

Defensor wrote:As a footnote, I'd like to say thank you to anyone who's served, you do your country a favor!


That's the opposite of what the military does, actually.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:49 pm

Czechanada wrote:No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.


Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free. It is also patently immoral, precisely because it is an instrument of mass murder.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished. Participation in the military deserves our scorn and repudiation, not our respect and gratitude.
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Postby Aleckandor » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:51 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Czechanada wrote:No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.


Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished.


Then everybody would have to abolish theirs in turn. It wouldn't be fair if it was only us starting such a new trend. :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:05 pm

Czechanada wrote:No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with being in the military...
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:09 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Czechanada wrote:No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.


Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free. It is also patently immoral, precisely because it is an instrument of mass murder.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished. Participation in the military deserves our scorn and repudiation, not our respect and gratitude.


Everything you have said is wrong.

Our military PROTECTS our free society (without it, we can be invaded by another military).

It makes America SAFER. It DOES make it safer and guarantees a level of meaningful freedom (''freedom'' without protection is meaningless). It is not an instrument of mass MURDER per say (because murder has to be unlawful and states have a right to declare war) and even if it is an instrument of mass killing it is not patently immoral just because of that. To call it immoral just because it kills people overlooks the way the threat of force and violence in the hands of a government that is democratic is needed to safeguard our liberties and safeties from other less benevolent but threatening organizations (such as the foreign militaries of rogue nations).

We would NOT be better off if we abolished out military. We would be completely defenseless and open to invasion by foreign countries and perhaps even gangland take over. Participation in the military deserves respect and gratitude, not scorn and repudiation. It requires bravery and self-sacrifice and it's a job that has to be done.

You disrespect the state and you disrespect the military... and yet you live under the blanket of protection the military gives you through the sacrifice of its troops and you benefit in countless ways from the social organization and order provided by the state. How can you be so anti-state without sounding ungrateful?

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:11 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Czechanada wrote:No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.


Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free. It is also patently immoral, precisely because it is an instrument of mass murder.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished. Participation in the military deserves our scorn and repudiation, not our respect and gratitude.


I've seen alot of reprehensible views on this site. But this really takes the cake.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:11 pm

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free. It is also patently immoral, precisely because it is an instrument of mass murder.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished. Participation in the military deserves our scorn and repudiation, not our respect and gratitude.


Everything you have said is wrong.

Our military PROTECTS our free society (without it, we can be invaded by another military).

It makes America SAFER. It DOES make it safer and guarantees a level of meaningful freedom (''freedom'' without protection is meaningless). It is not an instrument of mass MURDER per say (because murder has to be unlawful and states have a right to declare war) and even if it is an instrument of mass killing it is not patently immoral just because of that. To call it immoral just because it kills people overlooks the way the threat of force and violence in the hands of a government that is democratic is needed to safeguard our liberties and safeties from other less benevolent but threatening organizations (such as the foreign militaries of rogue nations).

We would NOT be better off if we abolished out military. We would be completely defenseless and open to invasion by foreign countries and perhaps even gangland take over. Participation in the military deserves respect and gratitude, not scorn and repudiation. It requires bravery and self-sacrifice and it's a job that has to be done.

You disrespect the state and you disrespect the military... and yet you live under the blanket of protection the military gives you through the sacrifice of its troops and you benefit in countless ways from the social organization and order provided by the state. How can you be so anti-state without sounding ungrateful?

You're better off just ignoring Bluth.
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:14 pm

I'm enlisting on monday, actually.
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Postby Czechanada » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:15 pm

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free. It is also patently immoral, precisely because it is an instrument of mass murder.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished. Participation in the military deserves our scorn and repudiation, not our respect and gratitude.


Everything you have said is wrong.

Our military PROTECTS our free society (without it, we can be invaded by another military).

It makes America SAFER. It DOES make it safer and guarantees a level of meaningful freedom (''freedom'' without protection is meaningless). It is not an instrument of mass MURDER per say (because murder has to be unlawful and states have a right to declare war) and even if it is an instrument of mass killing it is not patently immoral just because of that. To call it immoral just because it kills people overlooks the way the threat of force and violence in the hands of a government that is democratic is needed to safeguard our liberties and safeties from other less benevolent but threatening organizations (such as the foreign militaries of rogue nations).

We would NOT be better off if we abolished out military. We would be completely defenseless and open to invasion by foreign countries and perhaps even gangland take over. Participation in the military deserves respect and gratitude, not scorn and repudiation. It requires bravery and self-sacrifice and it's a job that has to be done.

You disrespect the state and you disrespect the military... and yet you live under the blanket of protection the military gives you through the sacrifice of its troops and you benefit in countless ways from the social organization and order provided by the state. How can you be so anti-state without sounding ungrateful?


To be fair, America is quite isolated and the citizens are armed to the teeth. Therefore, it could still have a low likelihood of being attacked.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:40 pm

Segmentia wrote:I'm enlisting on monday, actually.

Care to expound?
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:46 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Segmentia wrote:I'm enlisting on monday, actually.

Care to expound?


Enlisting in the US Army, Cryptologic technician collector, hopefully.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:49 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Care to expound?


Enlisting in the US Army, Cryptologic technician collector, hopefully.

Cool.
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Postby Herador » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:50 pm

Segmentia wrote:Cryptologic technician collector

What an interesting assortment of titles.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:50 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Care to expound?


Enlisting in the US Army, Cryptologic technician collector, hopefully.


Best of luck with that :)
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Postby Segmentia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:51 pm

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Enlisting in the US Army, Cryptologic technician collector, hopefully.


Best of luck with that :)


Thank you. Hopefully it goes as planned, since my family could really use the financial support.
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Postby AaronFreJonesia » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:51 pm

I wanted to serve in the US Marine Corps Reserve, but was told that my having Eczema was an issue and I would not likely get a waiver :( . I am surprised by this because my father was able to serve in the USAF during the Vietnam era, and he had Eczema, so is this some new thing, and is there a way to get over that hurdle? If not, I guess I can join the Peace Corps or some other service idea.
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Postby Aleckandor » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:03 pm

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Postby United States of Raptors » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:13 pm

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It was worth a shoat..... but alas.... you reap what you sow.


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Do you have to do a pun twice?

A female pig is a sow so . . .
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Postby Defensor » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:09 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Czechanada wrote:No offense to anyone who is in the military, but I do not plan on becoming indoctrinated into a killing machine.


Indeed.

A military, as I said above, is a cancer on a free society.

It makes America worse. It makes America less safe and less free. It is also patently immoral, precisely because it is an instrument of mass murder.

We'd all be better off if it were abolished. Participation in the military deserves our scorn and repudiation, not our respect and gratitude.

Ugh, this again :palm:
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I still that is the coolest fucking name ever.

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How come nobody ever asks confrontational, easy-to-look-up questions to Hindus?

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Postby SanctusEmpire » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:09 am

Straight after graduation I joined the Royal New Zealand Infantry Regiment 6th Btn as a 2nd Lieutenant. I was active in East Timor and Afghanistan and participated in Peace-keeping activities in Africa. When my daughters were born I decided to leave the Army after 7 years. :)

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Postby Defensor » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:09 am

Segmentia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Care to expound?


Enlisting in the US Army, Cryptologic technician collector, hopefully.

And good luck to you, have fun while you can :p
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Defensor wrote:I can argue from both sides of the fence, since I love and own a few of both platforms. A little bit of good in all of them :)

I like you.

San-Silvacian wrote:
Defensor wrote:Along with "High Powered Murder Weapon" (o.o)

I still that is the coolest fucking name ever.

"Introducing the BF-666 HIGH POWERED MURDER WEAPON. FUCK YOU LIBERALS!"

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Beloyukto wrote:A punch of Jews

Is this what we call a group of Jews now?

Weird.

Defensor wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Let me ask YOU something.

How come nobody ever asks confrontational, easy-to-look-up questions to Hindus?

We're people too, you know.

Haha! No you're not! *hands you a papertowel* Now wipe that dirt off your shoes and get back to work you silly midget :)

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