I called it, didn't I? You owe me bragging rights, New West Guinea
Listen: when it comes to the Treasury, the numbers are the numbers. 3 is 3 - you cannot turn it into 4, no matter how you try. So unless you're prepared to accuse the Treasury of lying about the amount of IOUs it has outstanding (and you'd better have damn good evidence for that!), then I suggest you reconsider your statement.
Salamanderston wrote:New Chalcedon wrote:
More bullshit, I see.
US gross Federal debt as of Jan 2009: $10,626,877,048,913.08. (source)
US gross Federal debt as of Jan 31, 2013: $16,433,791,850,294.04 (source as above).
That's a 50% increase, not a 200% increase. So quit the bullshit assertions, because I will call them out each and every time.
Lol no I don't miss Dumbya, and I rather doubt anyone else does either. Also:
Federal deficit (projected) when Obama entered office: $1.2 trn.
Projected Federal deficit for FY 2013: $901bn.
So the deficit is in fact smaller than when Obama took office - it's been cut by a quarter. But, "what about spending?" I hear you ask - "Surely Obama's the big spender!"
Actually, he isn't - under the Obama Administration, total Federal spending has grown at the slowest rate of any President since Eisenhower.
So, to recap:
- The debt has not tripled since Obama took office, as you (falsely) state.
- Obama has not "doubled down" on Bush's ruinous policies, as you (falsely) state - the deficit is lower than when he took office, and spending has stalled.
In short, your post is once again pure, unmixed, Grade-A bullshit - without even the grace of having been marinated in horse-piss this time.
You know, I'm not seeing any instant turn-around in job numbers there. I'm simply noting that the turnaround happened a lot sooner than "4 years of down down down" after Obama's inauguration.
But hey, think what you want - dwell in whatever right-wing nutjob fantasy land pleases you, just don't strawman my remarks, or you won't like the result.
Speaking of dwelling in fantasies. . . .
Do you honestly believe that all that spending on the stimulus just didn't happen, and the buying of those companies. . .and that healthcare bill?
First, the stimulus was accounted for in those figures. Second, the TARP bailouts ("buying of those companies") were enacted by President Bush, not President Obama. Third, the healthcare bill is only partially in effect - the rest comes into effect next year, and it's projected to cut deficits in any case.
Do you want me to honestly believe that?
Well, it is reality.
Maybe I was off about the triple increase, since I heard it from somewhere else or misunderstood what was given to me, but the fact you point out the debt has increased dramatically from Bush's 10 trillion to Obama's 14 trillion (which only took Obama 4 years to do so) just proves you alone are just incompetent.
Or that Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit the moment he sat down in the Oval Office. Or had you conveniently forgotten about that? There's also the trifling matter that you've just admitted I caught you out in a whopper of a lie - that Obama had tripled the debt, when he's done nothing close to it.
I repeat: I will call out bullshit where I see it, and your willful ignorance of the deficit Obama inherited is just that.
You also forget that the author of that post of Obama's spending put the stimulus bill in Bush's name, noting her bias in the affair is just dramatic.
Either that, or the first rounds of stimulus were actually signed into law by President George W. Bush. A minor, picky detail, I know - but when a President signs a bill into law and then applies the Executive Branch of the government to turning it into reality, one might expect him to be noted as the President responsible for the consequences.
I giggled when I saw 'spending has stalled'.
Giggle all you like - it doesn't change reality.
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And the other half from reading Atlas Shrugged.
