Obama worst Socialist ever!

[Liriena]

It's probably been said but yes he is a very bad socialist. Perhaps because he isn't one.

Just about to say this, so seconded. Its common sense really.

As my professor of Scientific Thought once said: "Common sense is the least common of senses."

[Mavorpen]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

The fuck...?

[Sailsia]

he is not a solictlist. we can end the topic now

I'm afraid no one on the planet is a "solictlist"

[Liriena]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

The fuck...?

I don't even...

[Frisivisia]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

I hope that's sarcasm.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Just about to say this, so seconded. Its common sense really.

As my professor of Scientific Thought once said: "Common sense is the least common of senses."

Wise professor.

[Sibirsky]

Hi NC

Long time no talk. Of course, I am not on NSG much anymore. Hope everything is well with you.

Well enough - and yourself? Keeping busy, or just sick of NSG?

Alright, thanks.

A bit of both.

[Sibirsky]

Obama is definitely a socialist. He is plunging the country into debt with programs such as Obamacare. People need to pay for their own healthcare instead of using taxpayer money. Socialism doesn't work, it is theft.

First off, Obamacare is not a socialist policy, it does not institute universal healthcare or a single payer option so no one would be using taxpayer money when it becomes law. Secondly you seem to assert that because the economy is bad Obama is a socialist, even if Obama has made the economy worse it is ridiculous to imply that you need to be a socialist to hurt the economy. No, Obama is a capitalist and corporatist through and through and because he supports some socially liberal policies and pays lip servace to progressives he is falsely labeled a socialist.

Corporatists are not capitalists.

[Mavorpen]

Corporatists are not capitalists.

No. You can argue that most aren't, but there's nothing stating that corporatists cannot be capitalists.

[Sailsia]

First off, Obamacare is not a socialist policy, it does not institute universal healthcare or a single payer option so no one would be using taxpayer money when it becomes law. Secondly you seem to assert that because the economy is bad Obama is a socialist, even if Obama has made the economy worse it is ridiculous to imply that you need to be a socialist to hurt the economy. No, Obama is a capitalist and corporatist through and through and because he supports some socially liberal policies and pays lip servace to progressives he is falsely labeled a socialist.

Corporatists are not capitalists.

But they aren't socialists or even left-wing either.

[Democratic Republic of Sapientia]

First off, Obamacare is not a socialist policy, it does not institute universal healthcare or a single payer option so no one would be using taxpayer money when it becomes law. Secondly you seem to assert that because the economy is bad Obama is a socialist, even if Obama has made the economy worse it is ridiculous to imply that you need to be a socialist to hurt the economy. No, Obama is a capitalist and corporatist through and through and because he supports some socially liberal policies and pays lip servace to progressives he is falsely labeled a socialist.

Corporatists are not capitalists.

They are not Mutually exclusive but you can still be both.

[Condunum]

How you did not get at least an honorable mention for posting or field debating, I'm not sure.

Because I have to be in a particularly anal-retentive mood to post detailed rebuttals; otherwise I get bored and wander off on a tangent halfway through.

Also, I'm erratic in my posting habits and my style is harsh and abrasive - I have all the tact of a rock to the head when I'm riled.

You don't have to tell me that you style is harsh, I've been on the receiving end of your rants before. It is nice to see them, though, as the emotive language adds a flavorful touch to the otherwise drab of statistics and politicking.

[Frisivisia]

First off, Obamacare is not a socialist policy, it does not institute universal healthcare or a single payer option so no one would be using taxpayer money when it becomes law. Secondly you seem to assert that because the economy is bad Obama is a socialist, even if Obama has made the economy worse it is ridiculous to imply that you need to be a socialist to hurt the economy. No, Obama is a capitalist and corporatist through and through and because he supports some socially liberal policies and pays lip servace to progressives he is falsely labeled a socialist.

Corporatists are not capitalists.

All capitalists who believe in any sort of democratic government are.

[Condunum]

Corporatists are not capitalists.

All capitalists who believe in any sort of democratic government are.

To note, capitalism isn't an specific ideology. It's a massive umbrella term that encompasses dozens of different political and economic philosophies.

Corporatism, I'm not quite sure of, because I'm not an expert.

[Oshawottistan]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

...okay then?

[Geilinor]

What a socialist! Letting the stock market rise to 14,000, how could he! So anti-business it's an outrage!

[Owl Cities]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

He has been, actually.

[Natapoc]

Even better, let's make republicans admit that a communist is running the economy better then they can.

[Mavorpen]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

He has been, actually.

To be fair, that was in 2010 and the spending was an estimate.

But you're correct that the rate of spending increases is nowhere near Bush's levels.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

Good job! Now be a good Keynesian and start reducing spending before we resemble Greece.

He has been, actually.

This is as a percentage as GDP which doesn't matter because GDP is a really vague figure.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/f ... dspend.jpg

Overall spending under Obama's administration has been higher than it's ever been since, well, ever.

[Mavorpen]

Overall spending under Obama's administration has been higher than it's ever been since, well, ever.

Which means that Obama hasn't actually increased spending much.

[Azurand]

Obama is socialist? 'Murikan standard is straange...

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

Overall spending under Obama's administration has been higher than it's ever been since, well, ever.

Which means that Obama hasn't actually increased spending much.

It doesn't matter, because he's still spending too much. He's spending more than Bush, and I doubt he's going to stop until there's hyper-inflation. The fact that spending has rose so little during his term is a non-issue. I don't even see the point of bringing it up

Gregory did 1 shot of cocaine a year, Tom did 3 shots a year, George did 8 shots a year, but Obama, that sly devil, he only does 8.5 shots a year! He's increased his dosage the least!

[Mavorpen]

It doesn't matter, because he's still spending too much. He's spending more than Bush, and I doubt he's going to stop until there's hyper-inflation. The fact that spending has rose so little during his term is a non-issue. I don't even see the point of bringing it up

Unless of course you understand macroeconomics, which you don't seem to do.

Gregory did 1 shot of cocaine a year, Tom did 3 shots a year, George did 8 shots a year, but Obama, that sly devil, he only does 8.5 shots a year! He's increased his dosage the least!

Thanks for confirming you don't understand national debt.

[Sibirsky]

Corporatists are not capitalists.

But they aren't socialists or even left-wing either.

Did I say they were?