A Petition get America to have a Flat Tax.

[Tubbsalot]

The tax rate for the people here is already at 10%. I don't see the harm. I don't believe people should be charged more for earning more.

So you support a flat fee of the same amount for all citizens, regardless of what they earn?

[Saintland]

Better solution: abolish state sponsored theft.

The only way we could do that would be to abolish government. It just isn't practical to try to abolish the government right now. The only way to get to utopia is through revolution and that's extremely dangerous and unpredictable. We'd be more likely to get a government worse than the one we have right now if we went down that route (see: the French and Russian Revolutions, which both led to totalitarian regimes).

I agree by the way that taxation is technically legalized theft. That is why taxation is only a necessary evil to the extent that it brings in the revenue to run the necessary functions of government. Beyond that, it is a pure evil.

[Threlizdun]

OP, you surely despise America and wish to see it collapse right? I mean, I can't fathom any other possible way in which you would wish to "fix" America with a flat tax other than if you were seeking to end its existence.

[Farnhamia]

Sure. If I make $30K a year, I'm left with about $26K to live on. If I make $90K, that leaves me $78K. Very fair.

The tax rate for the people here is already at 10%. I don't see the harm. I don't believe people should be charged more for earning more.

The tax rate where?

[Tlaceceyaya]

A flat tax is amazingly stupid. It negatively affects the poor far more than it affects the wealthy.

A poor person might spend 80% of their income on meeting their basic needs. A wealthy person might spend 20%. If they both pay the same percentage of their income in taxes, the poor person has a much smaller percentage of their meagre income to spend on other things than the wealthy person of their massive income.

[Greed and Death]

Hey Nationstates
after watching a episode of Screwattacks hard news where a petition on the white house's site to get all copies of devil may cry off store shelves.and got me thinking what can i do with this?so i decided to petition the U.S goverment to make a flat tax like a lot of eastern European nations do.so the link to the Petition is bellow



So why you may ask?
Because our system is broken by loop holes.Just look at Mitt Romney.
A flat tax without dedtcions will prevent all of this and increase renew.
so sign it by sign in to the site or joining it and sign.
please do it now for america's sake.

The President cannot enact any changes to the tax code. Only Congress can do that. Write to your elected representatives instead.

The President may propose legislation to congress. In fact he has both the power and the duty to propose legislation he finds to be necessary and expedient. Article II Section 3 of the US Constitution.

Yes a better written petition would have advised the President make recommendation to the Congress, I would jsut assume it is implied because other wise 90% of the petitions on the petition the President page would be beyond the President's powers otherwise.

[Towson]

I love how you insist that tax is theft. It's cute.

You agree that if a robber breaks in and demands your money, that is theft. Why is it ok just because that robber is called the IRS?

But what if the robber took that money and also used it to pay the troops,protect endangered species,Made Interstate Roads Free and put America on the Moon and Place American Robots on Mars 4 Times.

[Ruridova]

I love how you insist that tax is theft. It's cute.

You agree that if a robber breaks in and demands your money, that is theft. Why is it ok just because that robber is called the IRS?

Firstly, the IRS is not a robber. If you want things like roads, schools, a military, federal prisons, a functioning government, public works, garbage cleanup, public area maintenance, and other little things, you have to pay for them. Guess how you pay.

Secondly the Declaration of Independence states that the US "....as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do." This includes taxes, something which George Washington proved the US government had the right to do by putting down the Whiskey Rebellion.

[Neo Arcad]

The tax rate for the people here is already at 10%. I don't see the harm. I don't believe people should be charged more for earning more.

So you support a flat fee of the same amount for all citizens, regardless of what they earn?

Way to not understand how flat taxes work.

[Crushilista]

The tax rate for the people here is already at 10%. I don't see the harm. I don't believe people should be charged more for earning more.

The tax rate where?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybuilde ... nal-rates/

The poorer people have to pay 10% tax rate. Making it be 14% across the board wouldn't hurt them, really.

[North Stradia]

You agree that if a robber breaks in and demands your money, that is theft. Why is it ok just because that robber is called the IRS?

But what if the robber took that money and also used it to pay the troops,protect endangered species,Made Interstate Roads Free and put America on the Moon and Place American Robots on Mars 4 Times.

Our military is way too big.
I don't care about endangered species.
Privatize the highways and roads.
Leave space exploration to the private sector.

[The Black Forrest]

Better solution: abolish state sponsored theft.

Let's see you have posted that.......take time to count it.

Just because you keep repeating it will not make it true.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Better solution: abolish state sponsored theft.

How dare the government build schools, roads, and libraries! /s

and fund fire, police, and other emergency services, or provide a military to defend its citizens.

[Vetalia]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybuilde ... nal-rates/

The poorer people have to pay 10% tax rate. Making it be 14% across the board wouldn't hurt them, really.

They don't pay 10%, though, they usually pay nothing or a negative tax rate. Probably nobody under the 25% bracket pays a substantial amount of the enacted rate.

[Towson]

But what if the robber took that money and also used it to pay the troops,protect endangered species,Made Interstate Roads Free and put America on the Moon and Place American Robots on Mars 4 Times.

Our military is way too big.
I don't care about endangered species.
Privatize the highways and roads.
Leave space exploration to the private sector.

I heard somewhere that Somalia has no taxes on personal income.

[Novraslavia]

Is there a way I can vote against this petition? Like take one vote away or something?

[The Black Forrest]

I love how you insist that tax is theft. It's cute.

You agree that if a robber breaks in and demands your money, that is theft. Why is it ok just because that robber is called the IRS?

And of course the usual reply.

Again. Your house robber won't take the money and create and maintain roads, offer scholarships, fund research, fund the military, police, fire, etc., etc., etc.

You might might to read that a billion times.

[Ruridova]

But what if the robber took that money and also used it to pay the troops,protect endangered species,Made Interstate Roads Free and put America on the Moon and Place American Robots on Mars 4 Times.

Our military is way too big.
I don't care about endangered species.
Privatize the highways and roads.
Leave space exploration to the private sector.

Because we all know the best idea is to put everything in the hands of something that exists solely to make profit while fucking the environment over. Yeah, no thanks.