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by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:08 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:09 pm
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I hate democracy, and my nation is democratic. If the revolution were performed by Fascists or Monarchists I would gladly fight for them.
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:10 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:11 pm
by Neo Prutenia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:24 pm
Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?
Kleomentia wrote:Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:26 pm
by Augarundus » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:34 pm
by Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:37 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Camicon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:40 pm
Saint-Thor wrote:Camicon wrote:I'd be wondering why they didn't give up in a week. They are French-Canadians, after all.
I kid, I kid. Violent separatists aren't entirely unknown to Canada, however. Most recently, the October Crisis. Historically, we have the Rebellions of 1837, the Red River Rebellion, and the North-West Rebellion.
True, but violent federalists do exist too, Richard Henry Bain and Denis Lortie who both tried to kill a sovereignist Premier, killing and injuring more people than the FLQ, who killed one guy. It's not the separatists who burned down the parliament in Montreal in 1849 only because L.H Lafontaine wanted to give indemnisation to the Patriot families who got their farms burned down by the British army. It was a crowd of 1500 angry orangists. Oh, and they also tried to kill him in his home in the same night.
Now about the Rebellion of 1837, it wasn't initially about separatism. The Patriots didn't want to secede from the crown, they wanted a representative governement and a voice in the budget. London responded with the 10 Russel resolutions. I mean, the Americans seceded from the crown for less than that. As for the Red river and North-West rebellion, the Metis were actually trying to defend their home and their rights. That's what I like about Canada, we have 2 differents histories.
Edit: the wikiarticle on Denis Lortie was in French, here an English version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lortie
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by Rio Cana » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:41 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:Counterrevolutionary, or refugee. All depends, I guess.
by Saint-Thor » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:29 pm
Camicon wrote:Saint-Thor wrote:True, but violent federalists do exist too, Richard Henry Bain and Denis Lortie who both tried to kill a sovereignist Premier, killing and injuring more people than the FLQ, who killed one guy. It's not the separatists who burned down the parliament in Montreal in 1849 only because L.H Lafontaine wanted to give indemnisation to the Patriot families who got their farms burned down by the British army. It was a crowd of 1500 angry orangists. Oh, and they also tried to kill him in his home in the same night.
Now about the Rebellion of 1837, it wasn't initially about separatism. The Patriots didn't want to secede from the crown, they wanted a representative governement and a voice in the budget. London responded with the 10 Russel resolutions. I mean, the Americans seceded from the crown for less than that. As for the Red river and North-West rebellion, the Metis were actually trying to defend their home and their rights. That's what I like about Canada, we have 2 differents histories.
Edit: the wikiarticle on Denis Lortie was in French, here an English version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lortie
My main point was that Canada is no stranger to violent rebellion, regardless of it's origins.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:37 pm
by Curiosityness » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:37 pm
by Nua Corda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:38 pm
by Vistulange » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:41 pm
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:43 pm
Vistulange wrote:A leftist revolution, or a Kemalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and join up with the revolutionaries.
A right-wing revolution, or a fundamentalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and fight until I'm dead. Not letting those capitalist, fascist or fundamentalist scum gain total control of my country.
by Vareiln » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:44 pm
by Camicon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:47 pm
Wielki Lechia wrote:I would signal the Canadians to start their invasion.
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the artsThe Trews, Under The Sun
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter
by Vistulange » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:47 pm
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Vistulange wrote:A leftist revolution, or a Kemalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and join up with the revolutionaries.
A right-wing revolution, or a fundamentalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and fight until I'm dead. Not letting those capitalist, fascist or fundamentalist scum gain total control of my country.
Fascism is actually quite similar to several forms of Leftism I would say.
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:48 pm
by Nua Corda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:49 pm
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:49 pm
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