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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:51 pm

Unterzagersdorf wrote:
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North Suran wrote:I do see some concerns over how a lifeless corpse can give informed consent, unless they signed some sort of "My body is ripe for plundering" waiver before they died.


I see no way in which you can rape a corpse anymore than you could rape one of those mildly creepy real dolls.

The corpse used to be a person, Id say unless that person left a will stating they could be fucked in death, then you are, in effect, raping them...

You see, unlike the creepy doll, the person used to be alive...


He does raise a good point though. Once life has gone, it is essentially just another inanimate object...

Yes, but, they were still people, dead =/= inanimate objects, or else, why have wills at all? Why stop people from fucking coma patients?


Its a consent issue...

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:51 pm

Maurepas wrote:The corpse used to be a person, Id say unless that person left a will stating they could be fucked in death, then you are, in effect, raping them...

You see, unlike the creepy doll, the person used to be alive...


The doll used to be part of various living things, all of them not human. Is that bestiality? No. Nor is having sex with that which used to be human rape. Neither is eating a vegetable equivalent to eating shit, even though the vegetable grew in and is mostly made from reorganized shit particles.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:51 pm

It is disgusting. However, if the person, when alive gave consent, I really cannot see a legal argument against it.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:52 pm

Maurepas wrote:Yes, but, they were still people, dead =/= inanimate objects, or else, why have wills at all? Why stop people from fucking coma patients?


Its a consent issue...


Is a coma patient a corpse?
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Postby Tunizcha » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:52 pm

Maurepas wrote:Yes, but, they were still people, dead =/= inanimate objects, or else, why have wills at all? Why stop people from fucking coma patients?


Its a consent issue...


Comatose =/= dead
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Postby L3 Communications » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:52 pm

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Hiddenrun wrote:What would your reaction be to this practice?


There are far worse paraphilias out there.

That's my reaction.


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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Maurepas wrote:The corpse used to be a person, Id say unless that person left a will stating they could be fucked in death, then you are, in effect, raping them...

You see, unlike the creepy doll, the person used to be alive...


The doll used to be part of various living things, all of them not human. Is that bestiality? No. Nor is having sex with that which used to be human rape. Neither is eating a vegetable equivalent to eating shit, even though the vegetable grew in and is mostly made from reorganized shit particles.

Not necessarily, Id wager the majority are synthetic, ;)

But, it doesnt take a whole lot to realize the difference between Fossils or Plants, etc., and Human Beings...furthermore, Id not want them doing my dog that way either...

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:54 pm

Tunizcha wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Yes, but, they were still people, dead =/= inanimate objects, or else, why have wills at all? Why stop people from fucking coma patients?


Its a consent issue...


Comatose =/= dead

I never said it was, merely showing a comparison, ;)

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Postby Bobs Taco Shack » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:54 pm

Is having morality just of having an opinion about necrophilia? I dont care either way, do it or dont. As for the question asked, mine comes from others people. I will do what ever I want to whom ever I want when ever I want unless I see a problem I dont want to deal with in the future. When I explained it to others, one used the phrase 'amoralistic'. I like it. :)
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:55 pm

Jordaxia wrote:Nobody is being harmed - why would I object?

cos it's weird and really creepy that's why.

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Postby Tunizcha » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:55 pm

Maurepas wrote:
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Maurepas wrote:Yes, but, they were still people, dead =/= inanimate objects, or else, why have wills at all? Why stop people from fucking coma patients?


Its a consent issue...


Comatose =/= dead

I never said it was, merely showing a comparison, ;)

:p
But I don't really see how your argument, er, hypothetical would apply.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:55 pm

Sibirsky wrote:It is disgusting. However, if the person, when alive gave consent, I really cannot see a legal argument against it.

well if it's legal to do something then there's no problems eh?

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:56 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Jordaxia wrote:Nobody is being harmed - why would I object?

cos it's weird and really creepy that's why.

One could argue that noone's being harmed in a Coma rape either...the person would never know...

That doesnt mean a person didnt give consent...

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Postby Unterzagersdorf » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:58 pm

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:58 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Jordaxia wrote:Nobody is being harmed - why would I object?

cos it's weird and really creepy that's why.

One could argue that noone's being harmed in a Coma rape either...the person would never know...

That doesnt mean a person didnt give consent...

you what now?

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Postby Nercer - » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:59 pm

Uh . . . Eww . . . :o
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:00 pm

Maurepas wrote:Not necessarily, Id wager the majority are synthetic, ;)

But, it doesnt take a whole lot to realize the difference between Fossils or Plants, etc., and Human Beings...furthermore, Id not want them doing my dog that way either...


There's no moral difference between a human corpse and petroleum.
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Postby Macindia » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:00 pm

I don't see anything with the scenario you described. If it was legal, I'd consider donating my body to necrophiliacs
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:00 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Not necessarily, Id wager the majority are synthetic, ;)

But, it doesnt take a whole lot to realize the difference between Fossils or Plants, etc., and Human Beings...furthermore, Id not want them doing my dog that way either...


There's no moral difference between a human corpse and petroleum.

Yes, there is, Petroleum never needed consent to have sex...

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Postby Rhodmhire » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:01 pm

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Hiddenrun wrote:What would your reaction be to this practice?


There are far worse paraphilias out there.

That's my reaction.


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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:01 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:It is disgusting. However, if the person, when alive gave consent, I really cannot see a legal argument against it.

well if it's legal to do something then there's no problems eh?


Legally? No. Doesn't mean it is right or moral. But, who the hell are politicians to tell us what we can, and cannot do? They are buffoons. The lowest class of the human species.
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Postby Cameroi » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:02 pm

i seem to be seeing the usual ns disconnect.
precisely what does necrophilia have to do with WHERE anyone gets their morality from?
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:03 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:It is disgusting. However, if the person, when alive gave consent, I really cannot see a legal argument against it.

well if it's legal to do something then there's no problems eh?


Legally? No. Doesn't mean it is right or moral. But, who the hell are politicians to tell us what we can, and cannot do? They are buffoons. The lowest class of the human species.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:03 pm

Maurepas wrote:Yes, there is, Petroleum never needed consent to have sex...


So, if we invent time travel, can I go back 65 million years and fuck a dinosaur?
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:04 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Yes, there is, Petroleum never needed consent to have sex...


So, if we invent time travel, can I go back 65 million years and fuck a dinosaur?

If you can get one to give you consent...Good luck with that though, :?

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