Alrighty then, Is War a Necessary evil in your opinion?

[Larban]

Is going to war with another country the right thing to do to solve problems i.e. Is it a necessary evil and why? Personally I believe a state of war is permissable if one country is threatening another nation's liberty.However I do not agree with being the aggressor.

[Scomagia]

Is going to war with another country the right thing to do to solve problems i.e. Is it a necessary evil and why?

What do you think? It is considered good form to actually include your own thoughts in your OP, otherwise you're asking for a locked thread.
Personally, I do not feel that being the aggressor is ever appropriate. It is fine to defend your nation and attempt to preserve peace, but aggression or "preemptive attacks" are NEVER acceptable.

[Thafoo]

You need to elaborate more. In some instances i.e. Hitler, it was necessary but in no way necessary for Vietnam. Violence sometimes isn't the answer, but what's the question?

[Geilinor]

Only for self-defense.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

You need to elaborate more. In some instances i.e. Hitler, it was necessary but in no way necessary for Vietnam. Violence sometimes isn't the answer, but what's the question?

This.

[Larban]

Personally I agree with the argument on Debates.org, which says that if another country comes along with such a mindset that it uses to threaten any other nation or civilisation, intending to wipe them off the map, then I think it is the right moral decision to stop thar nation from doing so, hence going to war with them, not just for pride but for integrity as a race.

[Larban]

I'm just trying to get conversation flowing on here

[Thafoo]

I'm just trying to get conversation flowing on here

You don't have to tell us... pushy pushy you are

[Laerod]

Is going to war with another country the right thing to do to solve problems i.e. Is it a necessary evil and why?

Really depends, doesn't it? It can be.

[The Emerald Dawn]

You need to elaborate more. In some instances i.e. Hitler, it was necessary but in no way necessary for Vietnam. Violence sometimes isn't the answer, but what's the question?

Violence isn't the answer. Violence is the question, the answer is "Yes".

[NERVUN]

I'm just trying to get conversation flowing on here

Just as a reminder, you're supposed to include your opinion in the OP so we have a bit more direction. One-line question threads tend to get locked.

[Cannot think of a name]

The defense of war is always, "Oh yeah, well, what if there was a war?"

This is the case in the oft cited Nazi/Hitler example. Hitler, by invading Poland, by invading Russia, by invading France, had already opted for war. Fighting him is not 'deciding on war' it's fighting the war that has already started.

The question is mute once someone else has started a war.

The question only has value in the hands of the group starting the war.

[Dominion of Cats]

If you can overpower the nation

But, I'm not that big of a nation so...no.

[AETEN II]

Yes, it is good in that it typically leads to technological discoveries, a reduction in human population as to prevent overpopulation, and tests the mettle of nations.

It's good. Just sucks to be in the wrong foxhole at the wrong time.

[Scomagia]

Yes, it is good in that it typically leads to technological discoveries, a reduction in human population as to prevent overpopulation, and tests the mettle of nations.

It's good. Just sucks to be in the wrong foxhole at the wrong time.

See everyone, violence and murder are alright as long as we get a fancy new gadget out of it.

[The Taryegeans]

Depending on the war, it might be both necessary and not evil.

[Camicon]

No act, including war, is inherently evil. Ergo, war is not a necessary evil.
Whether or not war is necessary, I'm less certain of. Negotiations can always be attempted, I suppose, though a war might sometimes be the more effective method of resolving whatever problem there is.

[North Stradia]

Depends on the situation.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Depending on the war, it might be both necessary and not evil.

Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime.

“Stood in firelight, sweltering. Bloodstain on chest like map of violent new continent. Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them scream like babies in night.

Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothing else.

Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. Streets stank of fire. The void breathed hard on my heart, turning its illusions to ice, shattering them. Was reborn then, free to scrawl own design on this morally blank world.

Was Rorschach.

Does that answer your Questions, Doctor?”

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace. But you cannot have peace and a division of our country. If the United States submits to a division now, it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is eternal war [...] I want peace, and believe it can only be reached through union and war, and I will ever conduct war with a view to perfect and early success. But, my dear sirs, when peace does come, you may call on me for anything. Then will I share with you the last cracker, and watch with you to shield your homes and families against danger from every quarter.

[Seleucas]

I don't consider war to be justifiable. However, war to defend one's own Westphalian sovereignty is more justifiable than interventionist war. The US would probably be the greatest offender, in that light.

[Trotskylvania]

It is not a necessary evil, as that would imply that it is an entirely unavoidable state of affairs. It is an evil made necessary by evil systems and evil rulers.

[The Taryegeans]

Depending on the war, it might be both necessary and not evil.

Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime.

“Stood in firelight, sweltering. Bloodstain on chest like map of violent new continent. Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them scream like babies in night.

Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothing else.

Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. Streets stank of fire. The void breathed hard on my heart, turning its illusions to ice, shattering them. Was reborn then, free to scrawl own design on this morally blank world.

Was Rorschach.

Does that answer your Questions, Doctor?”

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace. But you cannot have peace and a division of our country. If the United States submits to a division now, it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is eternal war [...] I want peace, and believe it can only be reached through union and war, and I will ever conduct war with a view to perfect and early success. But, my dear sirs, when peace does come, you may call on me for anything. Then will I share with you the last cracker, and watch with you to shield your homes and families against danger from every quarter.

Hemingway was an alcoholic chauvinist, so I really don't hold his opinion in high regard. The second one is a comic book character, and it's really vague as to what it has to do with war, which is never even mentions. The third source, yes absolutely. If you can make your enemy stand down without a shot fired you are master of war. Trouble is, that almost never happens and when it does not, it becomes necessary to fight.

As for Sherman, he is very much right. War is hell. His burning down of Atlanta and March to the Sea proves just how ruthless war can be. But if you will notice in that source, he states quite plainly that was necessary. You cannot sit there and tell me that Hitler should have been allowed to continue unopposed. Hell, they gave up half of Czechoslovakia to try and avoid war, and it was not possible.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Hemingway was an alcoholic chauvinist, so I really don't hold his opinion in high regard. The second one is a comic book character, and it's really vague as to what it has to do with war, which is never even mentions. The third source, yes absolutely. If you can make your enemy stand down without a shot fired you are master of war. Trouble is, that almost never happens and when it does not, it becomes necessary to fight.

As for Sherman, he is very much right. War is hell. His burning down of Atlanta and March to the Sea proves just how ruthless war can be. But if you will notice in that source, he states quite plainly that was necessary. You cannot sit there and tell me that Hitler should have been allowed to continue unopposed. Hell, they gave up half of Czechoslovakia to try and avoid war, and it was not possible.

I'm not. I'm saying war is always evil.

[AETEN II]

Yes, it is good in that it typically leads to technological discoveries, a reduction in human population as to prevent overpopulation, and tests the mettle of nations.

It's good. Just sucks to be in the wrong foxhole at the wrong time.

See everyone, violence and murder are alright as long as we get a fancy new gadget out of it.

Which improves the lives of every human to be born in the future.

Technological progress, which equates to the advancement of humanity, is worth its weight in blood. World War Two, no matter how dire or horrible, was one of the greatest events in history, ironically, as it launched humanity forward on the back of a nuclear bomb.
Of course, it has to be the correct type of war, between fairly matched opponents, thus forcing innovation. A first world nation beating the snot out of a third world nation creates little innovation, due to the fact that little, if not zero innovation is required to annihilate a weaker foe.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Depends on the circumstances. Defencive war? Yes. War to stop genocide? Yes. Others as well, sometimes.

Dismantling the Nazi German and Imperial Japanese regimes during the second world war was perfectly justified, for example.