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Do you think Scotland should become an Independent Country?

Yes, I think it is a good idea.
82
31%
No, I think it would be a terrible decision.
93
35%
I could'nt care less.
27
10%
Alex Salmond's a crazy b*****d.
26
10%
Oppa Gangnam Style.
36
14%
 
Total votes : 264

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Postby Varijnland » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:37 pm

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Alas, Scotland is not inhabited by anarchists.

Anarchism does not necessitate anarchists. The Free City of Kowloon was not occupied by anarchists, yet it remained an anarchy for decades.

Nor is the UK authoritarian.

Then why are they trying for independence? Because the UK oppresses its member states with tyranny and larceny. Scotland has limited representation; its cultural values and heritage are not recognised, to the point of repression, by the government. Its democracy is a joke governed by appeasing 5% of counties whilst the remaining 95% are disenfranchised, as is the norm in non-Scandinavian Western Democracies of this day and age.

You're living in a fantasy.

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£1 A BARGAIN!!!!

Postby SaorAlba » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:55 pm

Independence to cost Scots the pricey sum of £1 per year!!! Brought to you by the UK treasury.


They could have shredded the figures or simply made up ones to suit their own agenda.

Instead to the delight of nationalists they release them. :) :) :)

Only recently Gideon & Beaker at the treasury got their abbacusses out & did an average of the gers figures for Scotland

this was done so that yet again they could spread doom & gloom, instill fear in the nationalist hordes. your too poor they say , o the debts.

Upon counting their toes it was worked out BY THE TREASURY it will cost Scots £1 per year for independence :rofl:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-cost-to-scots-of-uk-split-is-1-a-year-danny-alexander-1-2721272


We have already started the appeal to the nationalist hordes to send in their £'s ;) :lol: :lol:

http://www.yesscotland.net/launching_the_pay_a_for_scotland_appeal


http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/130-pound.html

Still I suppose its a change from the usual scare mongering rubbish :)

Here are some of the other planned scare stories for early 2013.

http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/127-sacres.html

God help us if they unlesh the Moonctopusses................ :rofl: :rofl:


So if it's going to cost me £1 per year to never have to put up with Tory policies decimating my country it's a big AYE from me.

As for abandoning the Ruk to perpetual tory rule, well if you are stupid enough to keep voting for them then that aint our fault then again you dint really have a choice do you Labour are just as bad.
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Postby Olivaero » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:34 pm

SaorAlba wrote:Independence to cost Scots the pricey sum of £1 per year!!! Brought to you by the UK treasury.


They could have shredded the figures or simply made up ones to suit their own agenda.

Instead to the delight of nationalists they release them. :) :) :)

Only recently Gideon & Beaker at the treasury got their abbacusses out & did an average of the gers figures for Scotland

this was done so that yet again they could spread doom & gloom, instill fear in the nationalist hordes. your too poor they say , o the debts.

Upon counting their toes it was worked out BY THE TREASURY it will cost Scots £1 per year for independence :rofl:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-cost-to-scots-of-uk-split-is-1-a-year-danny-alexander-1-2721272


We have already started the appeal to the nationalist hordes to send in their £'s ;) :lol: :lol:

http://www.yesscotland.net/launching_the_pay_a_for_scotland_appeal


http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/130-pound.html

Still I suppose its a change from the usual scare mongering rubbish :)

Here are some of the other planned scare stories for early 2013.

http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/127-sacres.html

God help us if they unlesh the Moonctopusses................ :rofl: :rofl:


So if it's going to cost me £1 per year to never have to put up with Tory policies decimating my country it's a big AYE from me.

As for abandoning the Ruk to perpetual tory rule, well if you are stupid enough to keep voting for them then that aint our fault then again you dint really have a choice do you Labour are just as bad.

Perhaps you should try using less hyperbole in your arguments? Just a suggestion but It really gets tiring seeing you act like everyone else who doesn't agree with you is an absolute raving idiot. And Yelling "PROPAGANDA!!!!" is even more ridiculous. Really it seems like your discouraging a fact based debate by constructing your rivals as bare faced liars. Just saying.
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Postby Tagmatium » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:37 pm

SaorAlba wrote:Independence to cost Scots the pricey sum of £1 per year!!! Brought to you by the UK treasury.


They could have shredded the figures or simply made up ones to suit their own agenda.

Instead to the delight of nationalists they release them. :) :) :)

Only recently Gideon & Beaker at the treasury got their abbacusses out & did an average of the gers figures for Scotland

this was done so that yet again they could spread doom & gloom, instill fear in the nationalist hordes. your too poor they say , o the debts.

Upon counting their toes it was worked out BY THE TREASURY it will cost Scots £1 per year for independence :rofl:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-cost-to-scots-of-uk-split-is-1-a-year-danny-alexander-1-2721272


We have already started the appeal to the nationalist hordes to send in their £'s ;) :lol: :lol:

http://www.yesscotland.net/launching_the_pay_a_for_scotland_appeal


http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/130-pound.html

Still I suppose its a change from the usual scare mongering rubbish :)

Here are some of the other planned scare stories for early 2013.

http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/127-sacres.html

God help us if they unlesh the Moonctopusses................ :rofl: :rofl:


So if it's going to cost me £1 per year to never have to put up with Tory policies decimating my country it's a big AYE from me.

As for abandoning the Ruk to perpetual tory rule, well if you are stupid enough to keep voting for them then that aint our fault then again you dint really have a choice do you Labour are just as bad.

Urgh, the bloody "Scotlandshire" shit again...

Almost as common as seeing some mug post about Braveheart in these threads.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:39 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
SaorAlba wrote:Independence to cost Scots the pricey sum of £1 per year!!! Brought to you by the UK treasury.


They could have shredded the figures or simply made up ones to suit their own agenda.

Instead to the delight of nationalists they release them. :) :) :)

Only recently Gideon & Beaker at the treasury got their abbacusses out & did an average of the gers figures for Scotland

this was done so that yet again they could spread doom & gloom, instill fear in the nationalist hordes. your too poor they say , o the debts.

Upon counting their toes it was worked out BY THE TREASURY it will cost Scots £1 per year for independence :rofl:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-cost-to-scots-of-uk-split-is-1-a-year-danny-alexander-1-2721272


We have already started the appeal to the nationalist hordes to send in their £'s ;) :lol: :lol:

http://www.yesscotland.net/launching_the_pay_a_for_scotland_appeal


http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/130-pound.html

Still I suppose its a change from the usual scare mongering rubbish :)

Here are some of the other planned scare stories for early 2013.

http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/127-sacres.html

God help us if they unlesh the Moonctopusses................ :rofl: :rofl:


So if it's going to cost me £1 per year to never have to put up with Tory policies decimating my country it's a big AYE from me.

As for abandoning the Ruk to perpetual tory rule, well if you are stupid enough to keep voting for them then that aint our fault then again you dint really have a choice do you Labour are just as bad.

Urgh, the bloody "Scotlandshire" shit again...

Almost as common as seeing some mug post about Braveheart in these threads.

isn't scotlandshire like the onion?
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Postby Tagmatium » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:41 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Urgh, the bloody "Scotlandshire" shit again...

Almost as common as seeing some mug post about Braveheart in these threads.

isn't scotlandshire like the onion?

It's just that that particular poster seems to enjoy putting those links in every thread.

Same stories, each time.
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Postby Minarchist States Of Equality » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:41 pm

I think it would be best for them to stay together but if it's what Scotland wants it's what Scotland wants and they should do it.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:42 pm

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Unfortunately, Scotland would lose a lot of influence on the world stage as it gains decision-making power locally. It is also very hard to predict how well an indepedent Scottish economy would do.


The Scots good worldwide image should make up for any loss of influence. Worldwide, you never hear anyone say anything bad about the Scots.


they don't have to put up with them.

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Postby H-Alba » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:49 pm

No, it would be a horrible decision. Scotland could not survive on its own, an why should it leave? I am scottish, and proud to be british.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:49 pm

H-Alba wrote:No, it would be a horrible decision. Scotland could not survive on its own, an why should it leave? I am scottish, and proud to be british.

reminder that when you say this you are disagreeing with the scottish and british governments

is this an appeal to authority

eh probably
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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:51 pm

H-Alba wrote:No, it would be a horrible decision. Scotland could not survive on its own, an why should it leave? I am scottish, and proud to be british.

Scotland could survive on its own. It'd just be worse off, I suspect.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:51 pm

No Go!
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Postby AJD Germany » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:54 pm

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Postby The American Commune » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:54 pm

Salamanderston wrote:Then again, no one really likes the British, so why the hell not.


And also the Scottish are British.
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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:54 pm

AJD Germany wrote:Oppa Gangnam Style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck is the relevance?

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Postby H-Alba » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:54 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
H-Alba wrote:No, it would be a horrible decision. Scotland could not survive on its own, an why should it leave? I am scottish, and proud to be british.

reminder that when you say this you are disagreeing with the scottish and british governments

is this an appeal to authority

eh probably

What? How is saying I am Scottish and British an appeal to authority?

Divair wrote:
H-Alba wrote:No, it would be a horrible decision. Scotland could not survive on its own, an why should it leave? I am scottish, and proud to be british.

Scotland could survive on its own. It'd just be worse off, I suspect.
It wouldn't be economically viable. Scotland could last 50 years, perhaps longer, before its economy would start turning downhill .
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:55 pm

Divair wrote:
AJD Germany wrote:Oppa Gangnam Style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck is the relevance?

South Korea should rule Scotland. ;)
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:56 pm

H-Alba wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:reminder that when you say this you are disagreeing with the scottish and british governments

is this an appeal to authority

eh probably

What? How is saying I am Scottish and British an appeal to authority?

Divair wrote:Scotland could survive on its own. It'd just be worse off, I suspect.
It wouldn't be economically viable. Scotland could last 50 years, perhaps longer, before its economy would start turning downhill .

no, i mean when you say "scotland could not survive on its own"

is this another "but the oil? your entire economy will collapse without the oil!" post
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Postby SaorAlba » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:56 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:
The Scots good worldwide image should make up for any loss of influence. Worldwide, you never hear anyone say anything bad about the Scots.


they don't have to put up with them.


In the beginning, The Lord God Almighty, sitting on His throne on high, turned to His mate, the Archangel Gabriel and said "Gabby, today I'm going to create Scotland. I will make it a country of dark beautiful mountains, purple glens and rich green forests. I will give it clear swift flowing rivers and I will fill them with salmon. The land shall be lush and fertile, on which the people shall grow barley to brew into an amber nectar that will be much sought after the world over. Underneath the land I shall lay rich seams of coal.

In the waters around the shores there will be an abundance of fish and beneath the sea bed there will be vast deposits of oil and gas".

"Excuse me Sire", interrupted the Archangel Gabriel, "Don't you think you are being a bit too generous to these Scots"?

"Not really", replied the Lord, "wait 'til you see the neighbours I'm giving them". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:
Scottish not British.

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Saor Alba!

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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:57 pm

Being English, if Scotland became independent, I'd laugh my socks off after they become poorer than Ireland when their oil runs out. If they decided to stay part of the United Kingdom, then so be it. I really don't care.
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Postby Cill Airne » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:57 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
H-Alba wrote:What? How is saying I am Scottish and British an appeal to authority?

It wouldn't be economically viable. Scotland could last 50 years, perhaps longer, before its economy would start turning downhill .

no, i mean when you say "scotland could not survive on its own"

is this another "but the oil? your entire economy will collapse without the oil!" post

Considering in 2010 H-Alba was pro Scottish Independence, and a member of the SNP, he's had to have had thought put into why he's changed his opinion. I just doubt he has the time to post more.
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Postby South Asia Minor » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:08 pm

SaorAlba wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
they don't have to put up with them.


In the beginning, The Lord God Almighty, sitting on His throne on high, turned to His mate, the Archangel Gabriel and said "Gabby, today I'm going to create Scotland. I will make it a country of dark beautiful mountains, purple glens and rich green forests. I will give it clear swift flowing rivers and I will fill them with salmon. The land shall be lush and fertile, on which the people shall grow barley to brew into an amber nectar that will be much sought after the world over. Underneath the land I shall lay rich seams of coal.

In the waters around the shores there will be an abundance of fish and beneath the sea bed there will be vast deposits of oil and gas".

"Excuse me Sire", interrupted the Archangel Gabriel, "Don't you think you are being a bit too generous to these Scots"?

"Not really", replied the Lord, "wait 'til you see the neighbours I'm giving them". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

Oh, please stop. You're the Yes campaign's equivalent to the Tea Party.
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Postby Calorax » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:10 pm

SaorAlba wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
they don't have to put up with them.


In the beginning, The Lord God Almighty, sitting on His throne on high, turned to His mate, the Archangel Gabriel and said "Gabby, today I'm going to create Scotland. I will make it a country of dark beautiful mountains, purple glens and rich green forests. I will give it clear swift flowing rivers and I will fill them with salmon. The land shall be lush and fertile, on which the people shall grow barley to brew into an amber nectar that will be much sought after the world over. Underneath the land I shall lay rich seams of coal.

In the waters around the shores there will be an abundance of fish and beneath the sea bed there will be vast deposits of oil and gas".

"Excuse me Sire", interrupted the Archangel Gabriel, "Don't you think you are being a bit too generous to these Scots"?

"Not really", replied the Lord, "wait 'til you see the neighbours I'm giving them". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:


You're just being a bit of a dick now. Plus, on an unrelated note about your sig, if you leave the UK you realise you'll still be British right? You share this island with us, whether you like it or not. And, as far as I know, you guys will still be part of the commonwealth too.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:13 pm

South Asia Minor wrote:
SaorAlba wrote:
In the beginning, The Lord God Almighty, sitting on His throne on high, turned to His mate, the Archangel Gabriel and said "Gabby, today I'm going to create Scotland. I will make it a country of dark beautiful mountains, purple glens and rich green forests. I will give it clear swift flowing rivers and I will fill them with salmon. The land shall be lush and fertile, on which the people shall grow barley to brew into an amber nectar that will be much sought after the world over. Underneath the land I shall lay rich seams of coal.

In the waters around the shores there will be an abundance of fish and beneath the sea bed there will be vast deposits of oil and gas".

"Excuse me Sire", interrupted the Archangel Gabriel, "Don't you think you are being a bit too generous to these Scots"?

"Not really", replied the Lord, "wait 'til you see the neighbours I'm giving them". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

Oh, please stop. You're the Yes campaign's equivalent to the Tea Party.


which would also be called the Tea party, I suppose.
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