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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:55 pm

So what are the best and worst video games?

I'll break my list down in genre.

MMO:
Best: The Matrix Online
Worst: Runescape

Simulator:
Best: Microsoft Flight Simulator X
Worst: 18 Wheels of Steel (God such an unstable software...)

Racing Games:
Best: ARCA Sim Racing '08
Worst: rFactor (if nothing else, for the simple fact that add on have ruined it)

Now present your best/worst games list.

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Postby South Lorenya » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:06 am

You know, of course, that there's no good way to compare games from different consoles/time periods. Zelda 1 and Oblivion were both awesome games, but given that they were ~20 years apart, there's no agreed-upon way of determining just how much to even out the technology difference...
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Postby Dashret » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:21 am

One of my favorites is Sword of the Samurai. A classic DOS-era game where you get to take over Japan. It's sort of like a very primitive version of Shogun: Total War, with more minigames.

One of my current favorites is Tropico 3. I am loving that game. It's almost exactly like Tropico 1, but shinier. And with some cool new features. It's how you do a sequel right :P

Worst games ever, well...Empire Total War on its initial release has to be up there. When you pay $60 for a shiny DVD that doesn't actually do anything you feel a little ripped off. And when you finally DO get the game working and it's so riddled with errors that you can hardly play...well...

Really, a lot of current-gen games seem to fit that stereotype...

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Postby Kashindahar » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:59 am

There is no game worse than ET.
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Postby Dashret » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:02 am

Kashindahar wrote:There is no game worse than ET.

Say what you like about ET, the game actually worked.

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Postby Lord Tothe » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:07 am

Ratchet & Clank was awesome. Everything about that entire series is pretty much perfect. I've played a few boring games - Project Eden comes to mind - but I don't recall playing any games that were unplayably broken due to programming issues.

*edit* and while the other games in The Orange Box are solid, Portal pwns all. Plus it's available on several platforms so no one is left out of the awesomeness!
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Postby Astholm » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:08 am

Caesar IV - great 3D game, although you'd probably have to use Sun VirtualBox to get it to run since it's not that Vista-compatible.
Second best, the SWAT series of games. Both are enjoyable, for good reason!

They're not just plain "shoot-em-up" or "kick-and-jump" but actual logic puzzle type games.
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Postby Kashindahar » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:12 am

Dashret wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:There is no game worse than ET.

Say what you like about ET, the game actually worked.


True, there were no bugs.

It was still worse than any other game you can mention, assuming that you can get said game to work at all.
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Postby Whiskey Hill » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:14 am

Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, which is saying a lot because I normally don't like RPGs.

This affected me a lot:

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Postby Lord Tothe » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:16 am

Whiskey Hill wrote:Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, which is saying a lot because I normally don't like RPGs.

Morrowind is better than Oblivion in many ways, despite the dated technology. It had its bugs, but I like how the community was encouraged to mod that game by the developers. That also allowed the entire community to correct any glitches (and there were glitches) immediately.
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:22 am

I don’t know about worst, but I’d have to hand best (at least in simulation) to Dwarf Fortress. Despite the fact that it’s still in alpha.
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Postby Dashret » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:30 am

Lord Tothe wrote:
Whiskey Hill wrote:Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, which is saying a lot because I normally don't like RPGs.

Morrowind is better than Oblivion in many ways, despite the dated technology. It had its bugs, but I like how the community was encouraged to mod that game by the developers. That also allowed the entire community to correct any glitches (and there were glitches) immediately.

I wrote a whole huge rant about Morrowind vs. Oblivion on another board...basically it boiled down to:
1. The setting was better and better developed. A somewhat original fantasyland vs. Generic Medieval Thing #5120
2. Voice actors (Dark Elves in Morrowind are sexy beasts. Face it.)
3. A better interface. Really. I liked Morrowind's more.

I'd copy/paste the whole thing if I wasn't lazy. Maybe tomorrow when I'm not so tired.

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Postby Jalanat » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:31 am

Best games:
Morrowind and Pokémon Platinum

Worst Games:
Every game that has been reviewed by the Angry Video Game Nerd.
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Postby Kashindahar » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:34 am

The Tofu Islands wrote:I don’t know about worst, but I’d have to hand best (at least in simulation) to Dwarf Fortress. Despite the fact that it’s still in alpha.


Given Toady's obsession with detail, I'm pretty sure it'll still be in alpha until it's a working simulation of the universe at the quantam level.

Nevermind how bad the user interface is, mind.
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Postby The North German Reich » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:50 am

Best: Hmm I quite like Battlefield bad company and Medieval 2 Total war.

Worst: Hmm..... dunno

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Postby The Tofu Islands » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:56 am

Kashindahar wrote:Given Toady's obsession with detail, I'm pretty sure it'll still be in alpha until it's a working simulation of the universe at the quantam level.

I’m not sure he’ll go quite that far. But it still needs a fair bit done (rivers flooding when dammed, disabling perpetual motion, et cetera).

Kashindahar wrote:Nevermind how bad the user interface is, mind.

What’s wrong with it? I find it fairly easy to use... The only thing I’d like is to make it work better on laptops.
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Postby Whiskey Hill » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:58 am

The North German Reich wrote:Best: Hmm I quite like Battlefield bad company and Medieval 2 Total war.

Worst: Hmm..... dunno


Medieval II= more attractive, less interesting version of Rome Total War. Classical just beats Medieval.

And I appreciate the comments supporting Morrowind. A brilliant game.

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Postby Libertarian Governance » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:09 am

Socom 3 is the best, worst is probably The Legend of Zelda
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Postby Kashindahar » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:12 am

The Tofu Islands wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:Nevermind how bad the user interface is, mind.

What’s wrong with it? I find it fairly easy to use... The only thing I’d like is to make it work better on laptops.


There's nothing wrong with it, it's just incredibly unappealing.
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:15 am

Lord Tothe wrote:
Whiskey Hill wrote:Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, which is saying a lot because I normally don't like RPGs.

Morrowind is better than Oblivion in many ways, despite the dated technology. It had its bugs, but I like how the community was encouraged to mod that game by the developers. That also allowed the entire community to correct any glitches (and there were glitches) immediately.

Morrowind is the way forward.

I still play it, and keep an eye on the mods which are out there for it.

Medieval: Total War was probably one of the better games of the Total War series.
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Postby North Suran » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:17 am

Tagmatium wrote:
Lord Tothe wrote:
Whiskey Hill wrote:Morrowind is my favorite game of all time, which is saying a lot because I normally don't like RPGs.

Morrowind is better than Oblivion in many ways, despite the dated technology. It had its bugs, but I like how the community was encouraged to mod that game by the developers. That also allowed the entire community to correct any glitches (and there were glitches) immediately.

Morrowind is the way forward.

I still play it, and keep an eye on the mods which are out there for it.

Morrowind just played like an uglier version of Oblivion with even worse combat, IMHO.

Tagmatium wrote:Medieval: Total War was probably one of the better games of the Total War series.

Shogun: Total War is the original and best.

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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:23 am

North Suran wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Morrowind is the way forward.

I still play it, and keep an eye on the mods which are out there for it.

Morrowind just played like an uglier version of Oblivion with even worse combat, IMHO.

Ah, yes. I forgot about that.

The fact that you can't cast whilst still having a weapon out is a bitch, and the way that it uses probability and ability to work out if you've hit an opponent is a bit of a bitch, as it means that early on in the game you're flailing like a moron, but not landing a hit.

The story's a bit less generic, as is the setting. It's also not ridiculously shiny, nor as generic fantasy visually.
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Tagmatium wrote:Medieval: Total War was probably one of the better games of the Total War series.

Shogun: Total War is the original and best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZA-gqJL9Is

Never got my hands on it. I mean to, though.
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Postby North Suran » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:27 am

Tagmatium wrote:
North Suran wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Morrowind is the way forward.

I still play it, and keep an eye on the mods which are out there for it.

Morrowind just played like an uglier version of Oblivion with even worse combat, IMHO.

Ah, yes. I forgot about that.

The fact that you can't cast whilst still having a weapon out is a bitch, and the way that it uses probability and ability to work out if you've hit an opponent is a bit of a bitch, as it means that early on in the game you're flailing like a moron, but not landing a hit.

The story's a bit less generic, as is the setting. It's also not ridiculously shiny, nor as generic fantasy visually.

I must admit, I never advanced enough to really make a critique of the story or setting.

It wasn't the graphics (I'm a nostalgic fan of ugly old games) or the poor combat (although this certainly augmented it), but I could never really get into Morrowind.

Tagmatium wrote:
North Suran wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Medieval: Total War was probably one of the better games of the Total War series.

Shogun: Total War is the original and best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZA-gqJL9Is

Never got my hands on it. I mean to, though.

My brother had it when it first came out.

I'd never go back and play it, for fear that it would not meet the standards demanded by my rose-tinted memory.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:35 am

Dashret wrote:Worst games ever, well...Empire Total War on its initial release has to be up there. When you pay $60 for a shiny DVD that doesn't actually do anything you feel a little ripped off. And when you finally DO get the game working and it's so riddled with errors that you can hardly play...well...

I had no such problems, and my computer can barely run it. :meh:
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Conserative Morality wrote:
Dashret wrote:Worst games ever, well...Empire Total War on its initial release has to be up there. When you pay $60 for a shiny DVD that doesn't actually do anything you feel a little ripped off. And when you finally DO get the game working and it's so riddled with errors that you can hardly play...well...

I had no such problems, and my computer can barely run it. :meh:


Ditto.

It's hard for me to specify a particular game as bad, since all of the ones I've played are good in their own ways. The lone exception to this would be Sonic the Hedgehog (2006), which was an absolute trainwreck of a game.
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