Deadliest Warrior: Halo 3 Brutes VS Imperial Stormtroopers

[Shnercropolis]

brutes win by default. Stormtroopers are more useless than marines, and marines are pretty useless.

[Bone Fort]

brutes win by default. Stormtroopers are more useless than marines, and marines are pretty useless.

With your proof being? Please, elaborate.

Everyone just runs in here and shouts "Oh X is better!" without actually giving a reason why. All the intelligent arguments are getting drowned out.

[Shnercropolis]

brutes win by default. Stormtroopers are more useless than marines, and marines are pretty useless.

With your proof being? Please, elaborate.

Everyone just runs in here and shouts "Oh X is better!" without actually giving a reason why. All the intelligent arguments are getting drowned out.

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

[The Quarian Expanse]

brutes win by default. Stormtroopers are more useless than marines, and marines are pretty useless.

With your proof being? Please, elaborate.

Everyone just runs in here and shouts "Oh X is better!" without actually giving a reason why. All the intelligent arguments are getting drowned out.

Well, I think most people here haven't read into the EU of Star Wars. And the movies leave much to be desired from the Stormtroopers.

[Threlizdun]

This belongs in Arts and Fiction. Also, I don't recall ever seeing a Stormtrooper hit anything in a battle taking place anywhere outside of a narrow hallway.

[Tagmatium]

The Sterling SMG of the Stormtroopers was cool.

I mean, E-11 Blaster Rifle.

[Bone Fort]

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

Tell me this:
Have you bothered to read any of the arguments presented in this thread?
Have you ever seen a Brute use intelligent tactics that didn't involve running at the enemy while firing from the hip?

[Norcroft]

Stormtroopers couldn't hit the side of a barn. I'm inclined to agree with Brutes, even though they are just big wookies.

[Shnercropolis]

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

Tell me this:
Have you bothered to read any of the arguments presented in this thread?
Have you ever seen a Brute use intelligent tactics that didn't involve running at the enemy while firing from the hip?

Tell me this:
are you going to answer my questions? I sure won't answer yours until then.

[Tagmatium]

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

Tell me this:
Have you bothered to read any of the arguments presented in this thread?
Have you ever seen a Brute use intelligent tactics that didn't involve running at the enemy while firing from the hip?

Have you considered the significant plot armour used by any of the protagonists involved in any of this?

I mean, shit, how much of a let down would it have been if Luke Skywalker got shot in the head in the first laser-gun fight in A New Hope?

Compare to: reloading from the last check point of Halo.

Also: the E-11 was the only blaster rifle to see combat in Operation Market Garden during the Second World War - at the Battle of Arnhem.

[The Corparation]

With your proof being? Please, elaborate.

Everyone just runs in here and shouts "Oh X is better!" without actually giving a reason why. All the intelligent arguments are getting drowned out.

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

The Opening of A New Hope and, Battle of Hoth are two. EU is chock full of a lot of them. Empire did wonders when they didn't have Han Solo or Skywalker present.

[Shnercropolis]

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

The Opening of A New Hope and, Battle of Hoth are two. EU is chock full of a lot of them. Empire did wonders when they didn't have Han Solo or Skywalker present.

Clone troopers would be different. They're clones of Jengo, after all.
ALso I haven't seen any of the EU. I'm working entirely off of knowledge that I have.

[The Interstellar Mongol Khanate]

Here's an idea....let's pit the winner of this competition against the Jem'Hadar from Star Trek.......in a separate thread, of course.

[The Corparation]

The Opening of A New Hope and, Battle of Hoth are two. EU is chock full of a lot of them. Empire did wonders when they didn't have Han Solo or Skywalker present.

Clone troopers would be different. They're clones of Jengo, after all.
ALso I haven't seen any of the EU. I'm working entirely off of knowledge that I have.

New Hope and Battle of Hoth were plain old Storm Troopers. Not Clones.
But yeah in the EU stormtroopers are really much better at their jobs. The reason they suck in the movies is because the Heros have to win and they can't win when they get killed.

[Oogium]

I meant true that Sanghelli. Even if the Covenant Cruiser exploded on the inside, it would still do a massive amount of damage. And the Covenant are well known for their acts of martyrdom.

And they would lose a lot in the process, while at the same time the Empire would be like "Meh." A single ship hitting it wouldn't be enough to kill the Death Star. It would take an entire fleet. The Empire can replace ships and men WAY more easily then the Covenant. And as I said before, Empire ships outclass Covenant by a long shot, as do their ground troops.

They can perform super-accurate slips. If they could get into that humongous area where the main reactor is, yes, they'd be destroyed, but the Death Star would explode. Do you know what slipspace is?

tell me this:
have you ever seen a single stormtrooper kill anyone?
Have you seen a single brute kill anything?
I rest my case.

Tell me this:
Have you bothered to read any of the arguments presented in this thread?
Have you ever seen a Brute use intelligent tactics that didn't involve running at the enemy while firing from the hip?

Yes. They've killed me a number of times using intelligent and effective tactics. And on another topic, who knows whether either sides shields would work on the other side's weapons? They weren't developed to fight them. In any case, I think Covenant energy projectors would dice Imperial ships like a side of pork, and then their plasma torpedoes(which can be guided....say...down an exhaust port?) would cook the little pieces.
This is extremely silly to be arguing about.

[Bone Fort]

Tell me this:
are you going to answer my questions? I sure won't answer yours until then.

Alright then.

Yes, I have seen a Brute kill things (I've played Halo, read up on the EU), and I have seen stormtroopers kill things. A lot.

First movie, they board the ship and massacre the Rebels in seconds, they lost some guys but killed way more, and that battle involved them running through a bottle neck one at a time with a bunch of enemies pouring fire into the one door they had to run through. It was a battle that had the stormtroopers running through narrow hallways at enemies firing from behind cover. They won and took much less losses then the Rebels.

The reason they missed so much was because all the other times they were firing at the main characters in a Hollywood production. Look at every time they don't and go at someone else. They massacre the generic faceless Rebels.

And even the Ewoks it was because they were ambushed by a force of small, hard to hit creatures that blended in with the environment and knew the terrain better then them. There was well over a hundred Ewoks and maybe forty-ish stormtroopers, and the Ewoks were backed by a Special Forces unit. Immediately after the shock of the ambush wears off, they begin to massacre the Ewoks, and only lose when more ambushes happen.

[Bone Fort]

And they would lose a lot in the process, while at the same time the Empire would be like "Meh." A single ship hitting it wouldn't be enough to kill the Death Star. It would take an entire fleet. The Empire can replace ships and men WAY more easily then the Covenant. And as I said before, Empire ships outclass Covenant by a long shot, as do their ground troops.

They can perform super-accurate slips. If they could get into that humongous area where the main reactor is, yes, they'd be destroyed, but the Death Star would explode. Do you know what slipspace is?

Tell me this:
Have you bothered to read any of the arguments presented in this thread?
Have you ever seen a Brute use intelligent tactics that didn't involve running at the enemy while firing from the hip?

Yes. They've killed me a number of times using intelligent and effective tactics. And on another topic, who knows whether either sides shields would work on the other side's weapons? They weren't developed to fight them. In any case, I think Covenant energy projectors would dice Imperial ships like a side of pork, and then their plasma torpedoes(which can be guided....say...down an exhaust port?) would cook the little pieces.
This is extremely silly to be arguing about.

1. I have heard of slipspace, and I do know how it works. But can you guide a ship in it so accurately that you could hit the main reactor room, which is really small in the vastness of the Death Star. You wouldn't know its exact location.

2. SW shields can hold up to massive punishment, and so is the armor. Plasma weapons exist in SW, and the ships are well guarded against them.

EDIT: Apologies for the double post.

[Shnercropolis]

Tell me this:
are you going to answer my questions? I sure won't answer yours until then.

Alright then.

Yes, I have seen a Brute kill things (I've played Halo, read up on the EU), and I have seen stormtroopers kill things. A lot.

First movie, they board the ship and massacre the Rebels in seconds, they lost some guys but killed way more, and that battle involved them running through a bottle neck one at a time with a bunch of enemies pouring fire into the one door they had to run through. It was a battle that had the stormtroopers running through narrow hallways at enemies firing from behind cover. They won and took much less losses then the Rebels.

The reason they missed so much was because all the other times they were firing at the main characters in a Hollywood production. Look at every time they don't and go at someone else. They massacre the generic faceless Rebels.

And even the Ewoks it was because they were ambushed by a force of small, hard to hit creatures that blended in with the environment and knew the terrain better then them. There was well over a hundred Ewoks and maybe forty-ish stormtroopers, and the Ewoks were backed by a Special Forces unit. Immediately after the shock of the ambush wears off, they begin to massacre the Ewoks, and only lose when more ambushes happen.

SO you're saying that the stormtroopers missed so much due to a plot device? It may be true, but it's not an excuse. Anyway, you could say the same of brutes. They don't kill the main character much because they are fighting against a super soldier. In fact, they're absolute killing machines against normal marines.

[Bone Fort]

SO you're saying that the stormtroopers missed so much due to a plot device? It may be true, but it's not an excuse. Anyway, you could say the same of brutes. They don't kill the main character much because they are fighting against a super soldier. In fact, they're absolute killing machines against normal marines.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Every other time they get in the fight against someone that isn't the main character or some super-powered Force User or mega killer robot (like IG-88) or super species that's biologically nigh unkillable (Durge, for instance), they kick ass. The Empire didn't get to become the major superpower in the galaxy simply because they wanted to, they had the muscle to back it.

Also, this should be in A&F if I recall correctly.

[Xathranaar]

SO you're saying that the stormtroopers missed so much due to a plot device? It may be true, but it's not an excuse. Anyway, you could say the same of brutes. They don't kill the main character much because they are fighting against a super soldier. In fact, they're absolute killing machines against normal marines.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Every other time they get in the fight against someone that isn't the main character or some super-powered Force User or mega killer robot (like IG-88) or super species that's biologically nigh unkillable (Durge, for instance), they kick ass. The Empire didn't get to become the major superpower in the galaxy simply because they wanted to, they had the muscle to back it.

I'd don't know. They were fought to a standstill by those laughable droids.

[Bone Fort]

I'd don't know. They were fought to a standstill by those laughable droids.

Which droids?

[Tagmatium]

I'd don't know. They were fought to a standstill by those laughable droids.

Which droids?

Those droids.

[Shnercropolis]

SO you're saying that the stormtroopers missed so much due to a plot device? It may be true, but it's not an excuse. Anyway, you could say the same of brutes. They don't kill the main character much because they are fighting against a super soldier. In fact, they're absolute killing machines against normal marines.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Every other time they get in the fight against someone that isn't the main character or some super-powered Force User or mega killer robot (like IG-88) or super species that's biologically nigh unkillable (Durge, for instance), they kick ass. The Empire didn't get to become the major superpower in the galaxy simply because they wanted to, they had the muscle to back it.

Also, this should be in A&F if I recall correctly.

Good points, good points.

[Xathranaar]

I'd don't know. They were fought to a standstill by those laughable droids.

Which droids?

Any of them really, they were all pretty silly.

[Bone Fort]

Those droids.

... Well played good sir, well played indeed.