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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:30 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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Yes, but craving violence is not a sign of being a crazed psychotic.


Law abiding gun owners dont crave violence, so your still wrong.


Really? So why do people laugh when someone gets hurt in a comedy or cartoon, and why is getting into a fight one of the attractions of going to a bar?
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:30 pm

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Now go and try reading the fucking discussion before jumping into the middle of it. We are talking about the currently perfectly legal background-check-less private sales that don't involve such a thing.


Your still wrong either way.


So you don't have anything resembling an argument?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:31 pm

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It's quoted in the very top post on this page.


So your admitting that your wrong? Got it.


No, I am pointing you happily to a 100% reliable source demonstrating that you are in fact running around waving a strawman around whilst shouting inanely. Put it down, and maybe we can try to have a fucking discussion.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Czechanada wrote:
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Law abiding gun owners dont crave violence, so your still wrong.


Really? So why do people laugh when someone gets hurt in a comedy or cartoon, and why is getting into a fight one of the attractions of going to a bar?


Okay, show me a reliable source that better supports your claim.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:34 pm

Gun bans don't work! Except in Japan, England, Australia, and Canada.

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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:35 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
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So your admitting that your wrong? Got it.


No, I am pointing you happily to a 100% reliable source demonstrating that you are in fact running around waving a strawman around whilst shouting inanely. Put it down, and maybe we can try to have a fucking discussion.


Then source it or gtfo.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:36 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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No, I am pointing you happily to a 100% reliable source demonstrating that you are in fact running around waving a strawman around whilst shouting inanely. Put it down, and maybe we can try to have a fucking discussion.


Then source it or gtfo.


Since you are apparently completely incapable of scrolling up and clicking a link, here's another one.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:36 pm

So... RPGs are illegal in the US. Why is it we don't see a rash of crimes committed with them, again?
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:38 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:Gun bans don't work! Except in Japan, England, Australia, and Canada.


That's not the bans at work there, it's the heavy regulation that comes with them. I could easily commit a mass shooting with a weapon legal under British law, and Canada actually allows the same weapon that was used at Newtown. They just regulate the fuck out of them, and so they don't end up in the wrong hands. Don't know enough about Australia or Japan, but if they allow bolt-action rifles with magazines (even internal ones) I'd still be able to carry out a massacre. Not that I ever would, just that if I wanted to, those bans would not stop me.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:39 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
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Then source it or gtfo.


Since you are apparently completely incapable of scrolling up and clicking a link, here's another one.


You still have not shown me where Bafuria has said that the militia might kill administrative staff. Thanks for embarrassing yourself. My favorite part is when you used your own source to do it.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:39 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:So... RPGs are illegal in the US. Why is it we don't see a rash of crimes committed with them, again?


Please read the current laws before opening your mouth.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:40 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Since you are apparently completely incapable of scrolling up and clicking a link, here's another one.


You still have not shown me where Bafuria has said that the militia might kill administrative staff. Thanks for embarrassing yourself. My favorite part is when you used your own source to do it.


Exactly in that post. Here, since clicking a link is apparently too hard for you, I'll quote it in full:

Bafuria wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And how, exactly, are small arms going to help? That is: what are they going to do to stop a dictatorship without say, bomber wings, aircraft carriers and cruise missiles?


Missiles can bomb the ground, but only infantry can hold it.

The US armed forces currently have about 70.000 Infantrymen, the rest are people who handle logistics and maintenance.
These are the people that transport missiles from the factory to the military airfield, load the missile on the jet fighter, refuel it, clear it for takeoff, collect the timesheets of the people at the base etc.

These people are not an effective fighting force and would quickly be overrun by an armed militia, crippling the military.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:41 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:So... RPGs are illegal in the US. Why is it we don't see a rash of crimes committed with them, again?


Please read the current laws before opening your mouth.


Chill, bro, you're straining the AC
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:42 pm

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You still have not shown me where Bafuria has said that the militia might kill administrative staff. Thanks for embarrassing yourself. My favorite part is when you used your own source to do it.


Exactly in that post. Here, since clicking a link is apparently too hard for you, I'll quote it in full:

Bafuria wrote:
Missiles can bomb the ground, but only infantry can hold it.

The US armed forces currently have about 70.000 Infantrymen, the rest are people who handle logistics and maintenance.
These are the people that transport missiles from the factory to the military airfield, load the missile on the jet fighter, refuel it, clear it for takeoff, collect the timesheets of the people at the base etc.

These people are not an effective fighting force and would quickly be overrun by an armed militia, crippling the military.


Notice he said ''overrun'' not kill. But please dont stop, I need the laughter.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:43 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Please read the current laws before opening your mouth.


Chill, bro, you're straining the AC


Straining the what...?
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:43 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Exactly in that post. Here, since clicking a link is apparently too hard for you, I'll quote it in full:



Notice he said ''overrun'' not kill. But please dont stop, I need the laughter.


And what, exactly, do you think being overrun by an armed militia entails? Tea and biscuits?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:43 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Exactly in that post. Here, since clicking a link is apparently too hard for you, I'll quote it in full:



Notice he said ''overrun'' not kill. But please dont stop, I need the laughter.


Overrrun implies kill or imprision in militaryspeak. You should know that.
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:44 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
Chill, bro, you're straining the AC


Straining the what...?


Air Conditioning. As in, it's getting hot all up in here, ham-dog
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:45 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Notice he said ''overrun'' not kill. But please dont stop, I need the laughter.


Overrrun implies kill, or imprision in militaryspeak. You should know that.


Yeah, it means to spread over to conquer or occupy a territory by force. Force meaning against the enemies will.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:47 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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Overrrun implies kill, or imprision in militaryspeak. You should know that.


Yeah, it means to spread over to conquer or occupy a territory by force. Force meaning against someone's will.


Not necessarily. It can also mean to take a position, capture a town, or wipe out enemy forces. All of which usually involve killing the enemy.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:48 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Notice he said ''overrun'' not kill. But please dont stop, I need the laughter.


And what, exactly, do you think being overrun by an armed militia entails? Tea and biscuits?


By force, but force doesnt have to include lethal actions.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Hornesia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:51 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:So... RPGs are illegal in the US. Why is it we don't see a rash of crimes committed with them, again?

Because no one can afford them?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:51 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Yeah, it means to spread over to conquer or occupy a territory by force. Force meaning against someone's will.


Not necessarily. It can also mean to take a position, capture a town, or wipe out enemy forces. All of which usually involve killing the enemy.


Well, yes of course it usually does involve trying to kill the enemy, but if said enemy retreates or surrenders without suffering any fatalities you could still say they have overran them.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:51 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And what, exactly, do you think being overrun by an armed militia entails? Tea and biscuits?


By force, but force doesnt have to include lethal actions.


When the force is by rebels, partisans, guerrillas or civie militia? It universally does.
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:53 pm

Hornesia wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:So... RPGs are illegal in the US. Why is it we don't see a rash of crimes committed with them, again?

Because no one can afford them?


More because the regulations on them stop people who would use them for evil from owning them. People can own them, but only if they pass a massive BATFE licensing regime.
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