Gun Bans

[Paddy O Fernature]

As long as the guns in question are grandfathered,they are legal. Keep trying to earn some respect for reasonalbility.

Grandfathered guns aren't the problem. Sales of new guns are the problem (particularly handguns). Guns used in crimes are mostly new (under 4 years since first sale).

You can help solve this problem. Or you can be neutral on it (owning a gun, or not). But I get the strong impression that you don't think it's a problem ... you want to sell guns to anyone you choose to, without any government regulation of that.

Frankly, that makes you part of the gun problem. That makes you a clear target of gun control, and a good friend to criminals.

Not a criminal mind you. I never called you a criminal. But a big fat target for gun control.

So why are you targeting scary black rifles, and not handguns? Which according to you, are the problem.

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[YellowApple]

I won't go as far as to label everyone supportive of gun control under one banner. I prefer to avoid stereotypes.

Agreed, both sides are known for this. Especially when someone relates to pro-gunners as ''one eyed hillbillies''.

Precisely. Last I checked, I have both my eyes, and am not a hillbilly (though I do live in a mountain town; that might count). Yet I am still supportive of civilian gun ownership.

[Disserbia]

Yeah fuck standing up for what you believe is right, *avoids the Godwin*

Standing up for what you believe in by taking up arms against one of the most militarised nations in the world (from inside said nation) is dumb.

Give me liberty or give me death.

[Dyakovo]

Standing up for what you believe in by taking up arms against one of the most militarised nations in the world (from inside said nation) is dumb.

Give me liberty or give me death.

Is it my choice or yours?

[Chernoslavia]

As long as the guns in question are grandfathered,they are legal. Keep trying to earn some respect for reasonalbility.

Grandfathered guns aren't the problem. Sales of new guns are the problem (particularly handguns). Guns used in crimes are mostly new (under 4 years since first sale).

You can help solve this problem. Or you can be neutral on it (owning a gun, or not). But I get the strong impression that you don't think it's a problem ... you want to sell guns to anyone you choose to, without any government regulation of that.

Frankly, that makes you part of the gun problem. That makes you a clear target of gun control, and a good friend to criminals.

Not a criminal mind you. I never called you a criminal. But a big fat target for gun control.

This makes no sense. Sales of guns new or not require the same legal process to legally obtain them.

[Sinaryt]

If there was any one thing that government types could do to start a civil war in America it would be a gun grab, and then just insult everyone listening with such a simple lie as (no one is after your guns).

Sure would be nice if the Gun grabbers would stop trying to start a civil war.

[Chernoslavia]

Grandfathered guns aren't the problem. Sales of new guns are the problem (particularly handguns). Guns used in crimes are mostly new (under 4 years since first sale).

You can help solve this problem. Or you can be neutral on it (owning a gun, or not). But I get the strong impression that you don't think it's a problem ... you want to sell guns to anyone you choose to, without any government regulation of that.

Frankly, that makes you part of the gun problem. That makes you a clear target of gun control, and a good friend to criminals.

Not a criminal mind you. I never called you a criminal. But a big fat target for gun control.

So why are you targeting scary black rifles, and not handguns? Which according to you, are the problem.

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Because fun is bad

[Idaho Conservatives]

Yeah, well maybe you gun rights folk should help out the likes of Dianne Feinstein. Offer your expertise, so the guns that you consider least acceptable get banned, instead of random guns.

So we should help them infringe on our gun rights?

Some kinds of guns are going to get banned.

No, they aren't. The federal assault weapons ban won't pass, and most of the legislation being introduced in states is intended to restrict magazine sizes, and strengthen background checks and such.

Alternatively you could act like a criminal and make heaps of money by speculating in guns. Buy 'em when they're legal, sell 'em later when they're banned. Nice little earner there.

Have you ever heard of a panic buy? People buying right now do not intend to sell those guns later. The people making money are the ones selling their guns and ammo right now.

[Disserbia]

Give me liberty or give me death.

Is it my choice or yours?

That depends on if you're the tyrannical dictator of America.

So why are you targeting scary black rifles, and not handguns? Which according to you, are the problem.

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Because fun is bad

...and homicide isn't.

[Dyakovo]

Is it my choice or yours?

That depends on if you're the tyrannical dictator of America.

We all have our dreams...

[Chernoslavia]

Is it my choice or yours?

That depends on if you're the tyrannical dictator of America.

Because fun is bad

...and homicide isn't.

There's a difference between recreational shooting and homicide. Dont associate the two.

[Dyakovo]

That depends on if you're the tyrannical dictator of America.

...and homicide isn't.

There's a difference between recreational shooting and homicide. Dont associate the two.

Unless your recreational shooting is homicide... In which case there isn't a difference...

[Disserbia]

That depends on if you're the tyrannical dictator of America.

...and homicide isn't.

There's a difference between recreational shooting and homicide. Dont associate the two.

I was referring to the number of people that are killed with handguns every year. I'm on your side.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Seeing as the gun-control supporters continue to mis-identify guns and their parts, even after being informed of what they are talking about, , continually, I would think that further confusion would be welcome.

I'm gonna go ahead and buy me an Assault Fork while they're still legal.

That's the one with 5 tines instead of 4, correct?

If so, you should put a picatinny rail or 4 on it.

[Occupied Deutschland]

So why are you targeting scary black rifles, and not handguns? Which according to you, are the problem.

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Because fun is bad

Diane Feinstein: Team fun-hater for America.

Yeah, well maybe you gun rights folk should help out the likes of Dianne Feinstein. Offer your expertise, so the guns that you consider least acceptable get banned, instead of random guns. (1)

Some kinds of guns are going to get banned (2). Laughing at the people who enact the bans, or laughing at the people who vote for them, isn't going to change that (3). You should act like an adult (even if you're not) and see that least harm is done by the bans (4). You think you know better, then write a letter (5).

1) a) Riiiiight. And Planned Parenthood should probably help out the likes of the American Family Research Council or the other anti-abortion groups. You know, offer their expertise, etc.
1) b) You seem to be laboring under the impression that all people consider some guns to be bad...they don't. I mean hell on high-heels, I can't think of a firearm I consider 'least acceptable' with the proper licensing requirements. How's about the gun control folks compromise with me so that they take a long walk off a short pier. It's what they want me to do.
1) c) I shouldn't have to make the gun-control argument FOR people who support gun control. If you want to blame firearms for modern society's ills...okay, go ahead. But get your facts straight and go after the firearms that are actually (supposedly) causing the ills. A pro-gun extremist/nutjob/hillbilly/redneck/racist/et. al firearms enthusiast like me shouldn't have to be the one making a coherent argument for gun control legislation that I can argue against. That's the anti-gun folks job. I shouldn't have to build up their case against handguns just because they are too ignorant to realize so-called "assault weapons" aren't the problem.

2) Why should they?

3) That's true. That's why the NRA, the ILA, and other firearm advocacy groups exist.

4) The way the least harm could be done would be if there were no bans on firearms.

5) Done did.

[Grinning Dragon]

I'm gonna go ahead and buy me an Assault Fork while they're still legal.

That's the one with 5 tines instead of 4, correct?

If so, you should put a picatinny rail or 4 on it.

can I add the spork accessory to this, or would this require a tax stamp?

[Gun Manufacturers]

I'm gonna go ahead and buy me an Assault Fork while they're still legal.

I think a tactical mug would be more useful for me.

That is the coolest thing I've seen all day. If I had superfluous cash to spend on one, and if they had any in stock, I would buy one in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, I'm saving the last of my fun money for something else.

[Occupied Deutschland]

There's a difference between recreational shooting and homicide. Dont associate the two.

Unless your recreational shooting is homicide... In which case there isn't a difference...

Well, you haven't REALLY done any trap shooting until you load orphan children into the launcher. Their screams make it that much more enjoyable.

This is what all firearms enthusiasts do. Shoot orphan children with their guns for recreation. All whilst plotting to kill government officials, discussing their love of kidnapping, and hailing Satan.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Or better yet, let's not ban any specific guns.

Or maybe she should learn a bit about the subject before yanking emotional chains with zero knowledge of the subject. Like I say, I have no respect for stupidity, and a refusal to learn when the education is available is active stupidity at its worst.

Honestly, I bet she has at least a LITTLE more firearms knowledge than Carolyn McCarthy.

[Paddy O Fernature]

There's a difference between recreational shooting and homicide. Dont associate the two.

Unless your recreational shooting is homicide... In which case there isn't a difference...

Didn't someone on here already try to claim that shooting paper targets IS violence/training for killing others?

[Dyakovo]

Unless your recreational shooting is homicide... In which case there isn't a difference...

Didn't someone on here already try to claim that shooting paper targets IS violence/training for killing others?

It sounds familiar, so probably...

[Gun Manufacturers]

A question for the gun control types. Why are you afraid of the top rifle, and not the bottom one?

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It's the sling, isn't it? It could be used to choke someone, therefore it must be banned. Down with assault slings!

[Gun Manufacturers]

That's the one with 5 tines instead of 4, correct?

If so, you should put a picatinny rail or 4 on it.

can I add the spork accessory to this, or would this require a tax stamp?

You'll need to have a spork lug on your assault fork. Unfortunately, it'll have to be a pre-ban spork lug (which means it'll be spendy).

[Gun Manufacturers]

Unless your recreational shooting is homicide... In which case there isn't a difference...

Didn't someone on here already try to claim that shooting paper targets IS violence/training for killing others?

If not in this thread, it has happened in a few of the older threads (I remember being a part of such a discussion).

[Grinning Dragon]

Unless your recreational shooting is homicide... In which case there isn't a difference...

Didn't someone on here already try to claim that shooting paper targets IS violence/training for killing others?

Would it be this---> viewtopic.php?p=12056487#p12056487