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Postby Savengarde » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:02 pm

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The nazis took it from rome.

yes, except the nazis made theirs iron. Because it was a symbol of how cool-sounding they could make their mascot be.



To each there own i suppose.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:03 pm

Finium wrote:Guys, I live in Oklahoma.


where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain?


I know what you're thinking, "They so crazy". And you're right. Not only will Oklahoma eventually cede from the Union, we'll do it unanimously. I don't really agree, that's just how things are.

No, nobody in OK cares about what you have to say.


Did all the trailer parks get together and discuss this?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:04 pm

greed and death wrote:
Finium wrote:Guys, I live in Oklahoma.


I know what you're thinking, "They so crazy". And you're right. Not only will Oklahoma eventually cede from the Union, we'll do it unanimously. I don't really agree, that's just how things are.

No, nobody in OK cares about what you have to say.


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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:16 am

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The Utah Sheriffs' Association has issued fightin' words to President Obama. In a stern letter, the organization hints they would go to war against the federal government in the event their citizens are denied their right to bear arms against criminals and "tyrannical subjugation." The organization urges the government to "make no mistake … we will enforce the rights to our citizens guaranteed by the Constitution." In conclusion, the letter states: "We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." And there we were thinking New Hampshire was the "Live Free or Die" state.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/utah-sher ... le/2519176

And the letter: http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_fi ... Letter.pdf


I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.



Obama's not going to take away anybody's guns (at least anybody of sound mind and without a criminal history). You know why? Precisely because he KNOWS it will be SUICIDE! He knows that taking away 2nd amendment rights would cause a civil war that would more than likely overthrow the current government. Its called having the instinct of self-preservation, and its idiotic to think that he lacks it.

Also, if you people are so fucking paranoid about the government taking away the 2nd Amendment, why not push for an amendment that makes the Bill of Rights unrepealable?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:01 am

greed and death wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:thats it, can i be a utah sheriff in NY?

Only if you want to be the test case.


laffin, you got me. i lookdd it up

btw, it only costs 20 bucks to join the association.
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Postby Seperates » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:07 am

Galiantus II wrote:
The Utah Sheriffs' Association has issued fightin' words to President Obama. In a stern letter, the organization hints they would go to war against the federal government in the event their citizens are denied their right to bear arms against criminals and "tyrannical subjugation." The organization urges the government to "make no mistake … we will enforce the rights to our citizens guaranteed by the Constitution." In conclusion, the letter states: "We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." And there we were thinking New Hampshire was the "Live Free or Die" state.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/utah-sher ... le/2519176

And the letter: http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_fi ... Letter.pdf


I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:10 am

Galiantus II wrote:
The Utah Sheriffs' Association has issued fightin' words to President Obama. In a stern letter, the organization hints they would go to war against the federal government in the event their citizens are denied their right to bear arms against criminals and "tyrannical subjugation." The organization urges the government to "make no mistake … we will enforce the rights to our citizens guaranteed by the Constitution." In conclusion, the letter states: "We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." And there we were thinking New Hampshire was the "Live Free or Die" state.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/utah-sher ... le/2519176

And the letter: http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_fi ... Letter.pdf


I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.

So you're publicly endorsing treason...
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:11 am

Quebec and Atlantic Canada wrote:
Galiantus II wrote:Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.

Does this actually mean anything?

No, it doesn't.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:18 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Galiantus II wrote:
I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.

So you're publicly endorsing treason...


It's treason, then.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:25 am

If there is a civil war, anyone interested in setting up an International Brigade to repel the illegal rebellion?

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Postby Divair » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:53 am

I wonder if we'll ever reach a point at which people stop whining about how they'll go to war when they don't get their way.

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Postby AiliailiA » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:54 am

Rio Cana wrote:
Finium wrote:Guys, I live in Oklahoma.


Another landlocked state. What is it with landlocked states.


They'd leave the Union except that there are other states in the way. It's always some other state's fault right?

It's sad it's not possible. A hole in the ground where Oklahoma is now would greatly improve the surrounding area. The hole would fill up with water, making a lake twice the size of Lake Superior. The one and a half kilometer high cliff at Black Mesa would be spectacular, and Little River, Arkansas would become Big River, Arkansas.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:22 am

Galiantus II wrote:
The Utah Sheriffs' Association has issued fightin' words to President Obama. In a stern letter, the organization hints they would go to war against the federal government in the event their citizens are denied their right to bear arms against criminals and "tyrannical subjugation." The organization urges the government to "make no mistake … we will enforce the rights to our citizens guaranteed by the Constitution." In conclusion, the letter states: "We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." And there we were thinking New Hampshire was the "Live Free or Die" state.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/utah-sher ... le/2519176

And the letter: http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_fi ... Letter.pdf


I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.


FOOOOORT SUUUUMTER!!!

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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:22 am

Divair wrote:I wonder if we'll ever reach a point at which people stop whining about how they'll go to war when they don't get their way.

Heh, I doubt it.

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Postby Immoren » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:23 am

Napkiraly wrote:If there is a civil war, anyone interested in setting up an International Brigade to repel the illegal rebellion?

Wait so I'll go steal CV90 or two from local garrison.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:25 am

Immoren wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:If there is a civil war, anyone interested in setting up an International Brigade to repel the illegal rebellion?

Wait so I'll go steal CV90 or two from local garrison.

Personal fan of the AH-64 Apache gunship. Probably could borrow one from Prince Harry or something.

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Postby Risottia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:29 am

Napkiraly wrote:If there is a civil war, anyone interested in setting up an International Brigade to repel the illegal rebellion?

It depends, do I get to fly an F-15?
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:30 am

You know, when gun nuts talk about government tyranny, they don't usually mean the federal government anymore, because the federal government isn't the only set of government bodies in this country that fucks people over anymore.

I'll just leave this here.
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Postby Tekania » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:24 am

Galiantus II wrote:
The Utah Sheriffs' Association has issued fightin' words to President Obama. In a stern letter, the organization hints they would go to war against the federal government in the event their citizens are denied their right to bear arms against criminals and "tyrannical subjugation." The organization urges the government to "make no mistake … we will enforce the rights to our citizens guaranteed by the Constitution." In conclusion, the letter states: "We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." And there we were thinking New Hampshire was the "Live Free or Die" state.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/utah-sher ... le/2519176

And the letter: http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_fi ... Letter.pdf


I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.


Wha is all this retarded posturing by people like these sheriff's all about.... that's what I would like to know. All I can see it as, in context, is more than likely conservative politicking to their idiotic voter base and passing along misinformation so that they can pretend to be "fighting" for their constituents. Obama has not proposed confiscating guns, it's never been part of his plan. He has a plan, it's outlined in a whole bunch of recommendations for EO's which I encourage people like you to actually read, as it appears neither you, nor those of the Utah Sheriff's association have attempted to.
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Postby Galiantus II » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:47 am

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Frisivisia wrote:I think that if you invade Utah, there are a few hundred thousand people who would violently resist the feds. I happily live in Salt Lake, where there are fewer crazies, but they're here in the state.

To be honest I didn't even know Utah had a few hundred thousand people. But still, they're using old rifles against tanks designed for a Soviet invasion of Europe and drones and jets and shit, fucking shock and awe or whatever your strategies are


Let me guess: you live in the east, and think everyone west of the mississippi can't really be considered a state (except for California). Furthermore, you seem to think we have "old" weapons. Dude, we have an air base, here in Utah, and I am very sure they would be on our side. Montana and Oregon also have similar views as us, and they have their own bases there, as well. Just like most other states.

Let me also point out, for those who seem to think the miltary of the U.S. would actually do such a thing as attack their own citizens, that many members of the military (if not most) have views similar to these sheriffs, and will likely get violent if this happens. Militias throughout history have been ordered to do things similar to this: in Rome it didn't work, in Tiananmen Square - where the troops involved were probably some of the most devoted to their leaders - the first tanks ordered to move in and attack refused, and their commander was jailed.

Finally, Utah is not the only state where people would actually react violently to the actions of the federal government. Utah is not the only place where military and law enforcement would assist the citizens, either. Here is a link to an organization specifically for military and law enforcement officers of this oppinion: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/about/
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:51 am

Napkiraly wrote:Personal fan of the AH-64 Apache gunship.

Who isn't? :unsure:
Having been in the position of being under "attack" by Apache gunships, I can't think of anything more likely to put skidmarks in your drawers than the sight of hostile Apaches popping up from behind the treeline...
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 am

Tekania wrote:
Galiantus II wrote:
I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.


Wha is all this retarded posturing by people like these sheriff's all about.... that's what I would like to know. All I can see it as, in context, is more than likely conservative politicking to their idiotic voter base and passing along misinformation so that they can pretend to be "fighting" for their constituents. Obama has not proposed confiscating guns, it's never been part of his plan. He has a plan, it's outlined in a whole bunch of recommendations for EO's which I encourage people like you to actually read, as it appears neither you, nor those of the Utah Sheriff's association have attempted to.

Reading is hard though... :(
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Postby Rereumrari » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 am

Just the checks and balances system at work. Politicians do our will or we shoot them. That's why the Second Amendment is there. Without it, we have no way to check the government.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:55 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Personal fan of the AH-64 Apache gunship.

Who isn't? :unsure:
Having been in the position of being under "attack" by Apache gunships, I can't think of anything more likely to put skidmarks in your drawers than the sight of hostile Apaches popping up from behind the treeline...

Then it's settled. I can be the Air Marshal of the International Brigade, Immoren can be General of the Army and someone can handle the Navy.

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Postby Tel » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:55 am

I'd like to see Utah try to stand up to the Federal Government, I really would. It'd make for a good laugh.

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