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Postby AiliailiA » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:25 pm

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Oh for fuck's sake. An M61 Vulcan is a sustained fire gattling gun. Automated machine guns that operate by a powered crank are extraordinarily illegal


Please, just stop posting.


How many pages has it been since you posted anything about the topic?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:27 pm

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Please, just stop posting.


How many pages has it been since you posted anything about the topic?


oh shit :oops:
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:28 pm

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How many pages has it been since you posted anything about the topic?


oh shit :oops:

Here's what I get every time you post on a gun thread:

Person 1: Blah blah, gun control.

Person 2: Blah blah, no gun control.

You: Person1, you don't even know anything about guns, just go away. *Picture of Diane Feinstein not knowing about guns*
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:30 pm

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oh shit :oops:

Here's what I get every time you post on a gun thread:

Person 1: Blah blah, gun control.

Person 2: Blah blah, no gun control.

You: Person1, you don't even know anything about guns, just go away. *Picture of Diane Feinstein not knowing about guns*


...This is only the 2nd time I made that mistake.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:34 pm

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Frisivisia wrote:Here's what I get every time you post on a gun thread:

Person 1: Blah blah, gun control.

Person 2: Blah blah, no gun control.

You: Person1, you don't even know anything about guns, just go away. *Picture of Diane Feinstein not knowing about guns*


...This is only the 2nd time I made that mistake.

Then I must come around at just the wrong times, because that seems to be one of your prevalent arguments.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:35 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Since the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

And that's a valid argument how?

Because that is how it works.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:37 pm

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...This is only the 2nd time I made that mistake.

Then I must come around at just the wrong times


Yeah you do.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:41 pm

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It is a valid argument in that being that all laws must fall within the guidelines of the Constitution.

It is a good argument for it being right, and there are provisions to change the Constitution by Amendments or by a Constitutional Convention.

It's not a good argument for it being right, no. That something is a law is a good argument for it being obeyed and upheld - that something is a law is not a good argument for it being a good law. Bad laws can be changed, and should be, if the only ''argument'' against it is that 'the constitution says so'.


Bad laws can be changed, and if it is met with resistance then the only recourse is to challenge it on Constitutional grounds.
Just because a law is good doesn't mean it is Constitutional, this country isn't a democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic.

What good what it do, to have a Constitutional framework if it is going to be ignored just to pass a law? If that is the case, maybe Congress can pass a bill and the prez, can sign it into law, that you are now being forced to house soldiers, or you cannot be critical of your president or your elected officials, and doing so is now considered treasonous.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:45 pm

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Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:It's not a good argument for it being right, no. That something is a law is a good argument for it being obeyed and upheld - that something is a law is not a good argument for it being a good law. Bad laws can be changed, and should be, if the only ''argument'' against it is that 'the constitution says so'.


Bad laws can be changed, and if it is met with resistance then the only recourse is to challenge it on Constitutional grounds.
Just because a law is good doesn't mean it is Constitutional, this country isn't a democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic.

What good what it do, to have a Constitutional framework if it is going to be ignored just to pass a law? If that is the case, maybe Congress can pass a bill and the prez, can sign it into law, that you are now being forced to house soldiers, or you cannot be critical of your president or your elected officials, and doing so is now considered treasonous.


Well said.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:46 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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Oh for fuck's sake. An M61 Vulcan is a sustained fire gattling gun. Automated machine guns that operate by a powered crank are extraordinarily illegal


Please, just stop posting.


Why? He is right.
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:49 pm

Good for them.... although I'm not sure where you are going with the invocation of States Rights.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Please, just stop posting.


Why? He is right.


No he is not.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Dilange » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:03 pm

Utah Sheriffs warn Obama that they dont understand laws.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:05 pm

Dilange wrote:Utah Sheriffs warn Obama that they don't understand laws.

What laws don't they understand?
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Postby Dilange » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:11 pm

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Dilange wrote:Utah Sheriffs warn Obama that they don't understand laws.

What laws don't they understand?


Laws that Obama has put on gun control. It clearly states that it doesnt ban guns.
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Postby Truziodis » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:16 pm

Dilange wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:What laws don't they understand?


Laws that Obama has put on gun control. It clearly states that it doesnt ban guns.


They're clearly warning the office of the President that they'll brook no further interference of their citizens rights to own guns.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:17 pm

Distruzio wrote:Good for them.... although I'm not sure where you are going with the invocation of States Rights.


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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:20 pm

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The Utah Sheriffs' Association has issued fightin' words to President Obama. In a stern letter, the organization hints they would go to war against the federal government in the event their citizens are denied their right to bear arms against criminals and "tyrannical subjugation." The organization urges the government to "make no mistake … we will enforce the rights to our citizens guaranteed by the Constitution." In conclusion, the letter states: "We, like you, swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation." And there we were thinking New Hampshire was the "Live Free or Die" state.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/utah-sher ... le/2519176

And the letter: http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_fi ... Letter.pdf


I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.



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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:24 pm

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I am completely in agreement with the sheriffs of my state. Obama, remember: it was the states that came first, not the Union.



F-yeah IM MOVING TO UTAH!!#@!@$# GO UTAH SHERIFFS!!@!@#!!!!

Yay treason...
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:25 pm

Dilange wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:What laws don't they understand?


Laws that Obama has put on gun control. It clearly states that it doesn't ban guns.

City/state police DO NOT have to enforce federal law, nor EO. That is why there are federal officers.
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:27 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
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F-yeah IM MOVING TO UTAH!!#@!@$# GO UTAH SHERIFFS!!@!@#!!!!

Yay treason...


Is it treason to change states?
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:28 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Yay treason...


Is it treason to change states?

No, but what the Utah Sheriff's Association is threatening is treasonous.
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Postby Norstal » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:30 pm

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Is it treason to change states?

No, but what the Utah Sheriff's Association is threatening is treasonous.

Someone should prosecute them for treason then.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:32 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:No, but what the Utah Sheriff's Association is threatening is treasonous.

Someone should prosecute them for treason then.

They're within their rights up until they actually act on their threats.
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Postby Dilange » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:34 pm

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Laws that Obama has put on gun control. It clearly states that it doesn't ban guns.

City/state police DO NOT have to enforce federal law, nor EO. That is why there are federal officers.


Which I find bloody stupid. Youre a part of a federal government, you obey their laws, dont like well gtfo.
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