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Is God a malevolent being?

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Is God Malevolent?

Yes, he is responsible for the deaths of millions and the creation of death.
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29%
To some extent, he is partially good as well.
43
10%
No, God is our all-loving creator and should be worshipped with all of our hearts.
107
25%
Ponies.
113
26%
Why do we let these goddamn liberals on this forum anyway? Let's show them what we do to godless liberal-socialist-commies in 'murrica!
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Total votes : 434

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Mavorpen
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:26 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:He's claimed that I've said "God is BS" three times now and has never actually quoted me seriously saying that.



Not so much as that, but you have said "Your Ideas are BS' to me, when I was speaking of God. So, I would think you are an atheist. I'm not trying to say your wrong, just saying that you posted against me many times without actually making your own point.

In other words, you're making shit up about me.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:26 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I guess they start using your name for their strawmen because you're more visible?

I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.


You say every time you don't know me. You insult my Ideas every time I post on things like this, and basically say other's ideas are wrong.
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Postby Potted Plants United » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:26 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

Ok, prove it to me.
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New Mobile City
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Postby New Mobile City » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:27 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.


You say every time you don't know me. You insult my Ideas every time I post on things like this, and basically say other's ideas are wrong.

That's because your logic is like tinker-toys!

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Transhuman Proteus
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:27 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New Mobile City wrote:FUCK CTHULHU!!!!!

YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Prepare your anus for tentacles.


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Xathranaar
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Postby Xathranaar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:27 pm

New Mobile City wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Only reason it'd make sense, I see you in every debate thread I get into. :/


CthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhu! :P

FUCK CTHULHU!!!!!

YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Little known fact: Yog-Sothoth is actually a very gentile, selfless lover.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:28 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.


You say every time you don't know me. You insult my Ideas every time I post on things like this, and basically say other's ideas are wrong.

Because I don't know you. I read posts, and if they are bullshit, I'll refer to them as such. You aren't special. Bullshit doesn't change just because it comes from a different source. Get over it and move on attacking me when I have no idea who you are.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:

Not so much as that, but you have said "Your Ideas are BS' to me, when I was speaking of God. So, I would think you are an atheist. I'm not trying to say your wrong, just saying that you posted against me many times without actually making your own point.

In other words, you're making shit up about me.


er...No. Don't play that.
I see you all the time report people like me. You use the Mods as a weapon. I'm cool with having a debate, but not a "terrorize theists fest".
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Postby New Mobile City » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:28 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
New Mobile City wrote:FUCK CTHULHU!!!!!

YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Little known fact: Yog-Sothoth is actually a very gentile, selfless lover.

He's every point in space and time, so he can penetrate you in so many different ways.

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Individuality-ness
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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:29 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:In other words, you're making shit up about me.

er...No. Don't play that.
I see you all the time report people like me. You use the Mods as a weapon. I'm cool with having a debate, but not a "terrorize theists fest".

No one's terrorizing theists, furthermore, this is NOT the topic of this thread.
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Potted Plants United
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Postby Potted Plants United » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:30 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:You insult my Ideas every time I post on things like this, and basically say other's ideas are wrong.

The thing is, you're allowed to attack people's ideas. You're not allowed to attack the people whose ideas they are. For example, I think believing in an actual god that actually messes with mortals' lives is a pretty retarded ideology, but that doesn't mean I thought everyone believing that way was retarded. I know a lot of Christians that really believe without trying to push their faith on me or being smug jerks about "being in the know" or something like that. Since they don't ridicule my "belief" in an inanimate origin of the universe, I don't ridicule their faith.
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This nation is a plant-based hivemind. It's current ambassador for interacting with humanoids is a bipedal plant creature standing at almost two metres tall. In IC in the WA.
My main nation is Araraukar.
Separatist Peoples wrote:"NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE!"
- Mr. Bell, when introduced to PPU's newest moving plant

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:30 pm

Potted Plants United wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

Ok, prove it to me.

*blows Westboro Baptist Church up with mind*
Your welcome, feel free to worship me.
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Xathranaar
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Postby Xathranaar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:30 pm

New Mobile City wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Little known fact: Yog-Sothoth is actually a very gentile, selfless lover.

He's every point in space and time, so he can penetrate you in so many different ways.

Also a dedicated father to his two children. Sadly lost at Dunwich, when locals overacted to his coming for a visit.
My views summarized.
The Gospel According to Queen.
It is possible that some of my posts may not be completely serious.

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Mavorpen
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:31 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
er...No. Don't play that.
I see you all the time report people like me. You use the Mods as a weapon. I'm cool with having a debate, but not a "terrorize theists fest".

That's totally why you're derailing the thread by making shit up about me.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Xathranaar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Potted Plants United wrote:Ok, prove it to me.

*blows Westboro Baptist Church up with mind*
Your welcome, feel free to worship me.

If you did that, I would.
My views summarized.
The Gospel According to Queen.
It is possible that some of my posts may not be completely serious.

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Potted Plants United
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Postby Potted Plants United » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Potted Plants United wrote:Ok, prove it to me.

*blows Westboro Baptist Church up with mind*
Your welcome, feel free to worship me.

Source it or it never happened.
This nation is a plant-based hivemind. It's current ambassador for interacting with humanoids is a bipedal plant creature standing at almost two metres tall. In IC in the WA.
My main nation is Araraukar.
Separatist Peoples wrote:"NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE!"
- Mr. Bell, when introduced to PPU's newest moving plant

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Xathranaar
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Postby Xathranaar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:32 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:In other words, you're making shit up about me.


er...No. Don't play that.
I see you all the time report people like me. You use the Mods as a weapon. I'm cool with having a debate, but not a "terrorize theists fest".

If mere words are causing you terror, perhaps the fault lies inward.
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My views summarized.
The Gospel According to Queen.
It is possible that some of my posts may not be completely serious.

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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:33 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
er...No. Don't play that.
I see you all the time report people like me. You use the Mods as a weapon. I'm cool with having a debate, but not a "terrorize theists fest".

That's totally why you're derailing the thread by making shit up about me.


You've insulted my belief in God at least 7 times.
I don't mind talking in a civilized way, but you rarely do. When you do, wow. It's really great to actually have a conversation.
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Transhuman Proteus
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:33 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.


You say every time you don't know me. You insult my Ideas every time I post on things like this, and basically say other's ideas are wrong.


You could link to these posts then, thought that might be off topic.

Perhaps you are just taking it too personally? If the ideas are wrong, or someone thinks they are they are entitled to say so. If one doesn't want to deal with people questioning or saying they are wrong, it would probably be best to get out of the kitchen.

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Vulpae
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Postby Vulpae » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:34 pm

Just stopping by to cast my vote into the ring, and say hello and watch the impending holier than thou ragesplosion at the The circle jerking/back patting anti-theists. I've seen this a number of times, and it always winds up with four camps by the end.

1. O.M.N.E.G. I am soooo smart for figuring out there ain't no god por that he's an asshole, let me rub your faces in my intelligence and superiority puny mortals. Let us ignore most of history where humans bashed each other over other things, in favor of the violent or flashy parts that make me sound right. I shall misquote or cut out tiny parts of scripture and take them out of context to support my view.
I AM BRILLIANT YOU ARE INFERIOR!


2. OMG How dare you call my faith into question and make me feel insecure. You are a filthy heritic and deserve no love. how dare u lie, I should lie back at you, this is not up for debate, you r an evil faggot. rageragerageextremeisim. Quick, get me my edited history book, I shall refute these claims with things I make up based on it! I shall misquote or cut out tiny peices of scripture and take them out of context to support my view.
I AM RIGHT CUZ MY GOD SAYS SO, YOU ARE EVIL FAGGOTS!


3. Guys, please calm down, you are both kinda being silly, god loves us all. here see this is why this is wrong/out of contect, and this is why the other guy is wrong too. I have actual facts here to support the middle ground and... Stop ignoring me or the thread will be locked. guys... guys... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN'T YOU HAVE A CIVIL DEBATE JUST ONCE? well the thread was locked... I'm going to get a slice of pizza.

4. I love Ponies, trot trot trot, la la la la la, Scribbles on the walls, La la la la la

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New Mobile City
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Postby New Mobile City » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:34 pm

THEIST ARE TERRIFIED BY A PIDDLY ATHEIST?!

OH MAMA LOOK WHAT THE SCARY ATHEIST IS DOING TO MY PEANUT BUTTER!!!!!

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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:34 pm

Transhuman Proteus wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
You say every time you don't know me. You insult my Ideas every time I post on things like this, and basically say other's ideas are wrong.


You could link to these posts then, thought that might be off topic.

Perhaps you are just taking it too personally? If the ideas are wrong, or someone thinks they are they are entitled to say so. If one doesn't want to deal with people questioning or saying they are wrong, it would probably be best to get out of the kitchen.


It's fine. I'm just making my observation that Mavorpen rarely makes good arguments. He just says something is "bullshit".
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Xathranaar
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Postby Xathranaar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:35 pm

New Mobile City wrote:THEIST ARE TERRIFIED BY A PIDDLY ATHEIST?!

OH MAMA LOOK WHAT THE SCARY ATHEIST IS DOING TO MY PEANUT BUTTER!!!!!

Please stop.
My views summarized.
The Gospel According to Queen.
It is possible that some of my posts may not be completely serious.

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Transhuman Proteus
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:35 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Potted Plants United wrote:Ok, prove it to me.

*blows Westboro Baptist Church up with mind*
Your welcome, feel free to worship me.


Gaaaahhhh, I tried to control my faith but I couldn't help it. Now a giant zombie Fred Phelps is wrestling with Mr Stay Puft.

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New Mobile City
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Postby New Mobile City » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:35 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Transhuman Proteus wrote:
You could link to these posts then, thought that might be off topic.

Perhaps you are just taking it too personally? If the ideas are wrong, or someone thinks they are they are entitled to say so. If one doesn't want to deal with people questioning or saying they are wrong, it would probably be best to get out of the kitchen.


It's fine. I'm just making my observation that Mavorpen rarely makes good arguments. He just says something is "bullshit".
Who is Mavorpen but a nothing? And so are you.

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