Is God a malevolent being?

[Genivaria]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

Stop. Faith proves nothing, believing in something for some reason proves nothing except that one is gullible.

[Individuality-ness]

Your point?

He's claimed that I've said "God is BS" three times now and has never actually quoted me seriously saying that.

I don't ever recall you saying that either... *shakes head*

[Mavorpen]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

So basically you're wrong.

[Individuality-ness]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

That's nice dear.

[Genivaria]

Your point?

He's claimed that I've said "God is BS" three times now and has never actually quoted me seriously saying that.

He seems to like putting words in people's mouths with his " believe Nothing Exploded into Everything!" crap.

[Twilliamson]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

alright then i have faith santa exist (not really trying to prove a point) so that proves santa exist.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Also, a quick message to Atheists.

I new Atheism existed, but before NS I never really knew any real atheists. I knew one, and he made valid points in a calm, civilized way. Certain Atheists on NS seem to simply say "God is BS"...cough cough Mavorpen......

For some reason, NS seems to attract Atheists around the world. So I think think this is a good time to post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re ... opulations
-Citation


Ok, saying here in the caption below the chart with lots of numbers and religions, it says that about half of the 1 billion nonreligious in the world ARE theist. They are like the Christians that go to mass on Christmas and Easter only.

That being said, only about 500 million true Atheists are on earth. Even China has a Church, and N. Korea is "Juche".

Egads! Lots of people believing something means it is true! Clearly the fact big name pop stars like Britney Spears etc sell more CDs in a year sometimes than new Mozart CD means Britney Spears is better than Mozart!*

(I just realised how terrible my pop culture music knowledge is - who is a famous pop star today?)

There is a reason people believe in a God, or some other religion: Not many people believe Nothing Exploded into Everything!

If that is the only reason they are believing in God then maybe they should educate themselves on the science around the Big Bang a bit more.

And they would have done well a few thousand years ago. "The reason so many people believe in the gods is: the only thing that can explain the sun is a bird headed man sailing across the sky with it in his boat!"

[Xathranaar]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

How convenient. My belief that Elvis is still alive, and that he abducted me in a UFO piloted by Bigfoot isn't a scientific fact either.

[Mavorpen]

He's claimed that I've said "God is BS" three times now and has never actually quoted me seriously saying that.

He seems to like putting words in people's mouths with his " believe Nothing Exploded into Everything!" crap.

At this point I'm tired of someone I don't even know randomly saying, "MAVORPEN SAID X AND Y!" when I haven't said jack shit to him in the thread.

[Individuality-ness]

(I just realised how terrible my pop culture music knowledge is - who is a famous pop star today?)

Justin Bieber, if you want to hit on the usual punching bag of the modern age.

[New Mobile City]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

Are you saying we can know from the heart? That emotion is another way of knowing comparable to reason?

I'm full of shit!

[Individuality-ness]

He seems to like putting words in people's mouths with his " believe Nothing Exploded into Everything!" crap.

At this point I'm tired of someone I don't even know randomly saying, "MAVORPEN SAID X AND Y!" when I haven't said jack shit to him in the thread.

I guess they start using your name for their strawmen because you're more visible?

[Genivaria]

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

alright then i have faith santa exist (not really trying to prove a point) so that proves santa exist.

I have faith that Halle Berry is in my house in a sexy Santa outfit.
*looks around*
Damnit!

[Transhuman Proteus]

yep your'e right because most people believes in God that means God is real. Just like how the world is flat. everyone use to believe that so it must be true

There's a difference: God isn't a Scientific Fact. The World being round can be proven. God is proven by Faith. Faith is belief, with proof in your heart, not the mind.

Your heart is an organ in your chest that pumps blood. It has nothing to do with faith or how you think. Faith is just as much a part of the mind as non-faith is, and all other feeling and thinking.

Nothing is proven by faith either, by the way. And since you are operating on the theory God is the god of gaps, existing to explain things we don't know - so should we one day work out perfectly well how the universe came into being, and the reason doesn't involve God, does that mean people will stop believing in it?

[Mavorpen]

At this point I'm tired of someone I don't even know randomly saying, "MAVORPEN SAID X AND Y!" when I haven't said jack shit to him in the thread.

I guess they start using your name for their strawmen because you're more visible?

I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.

[Xathranaar]

alright then i have faith santa exist (not really trying to prove a point) so that proves santa exist.

I have faith that Halle Berry is in my house in a sexy Santa outfit.
*looks around*
Damnit!

I tried to do something very similar a little while ago with Ishtar and Freyja, with similar results.

Still not brave enough to try Cthulhu though.

[Transhuman Proteus]

alright then i have faith santa exist (not really trying to prove a point) so that proves santa exist.

I have faith that Halle Berry is in my house in a sexy Santa outfit.
*looks around*
Damnit!

She's in an Easter Bunny costume?

[Defensor]

> implying you understand Gods will

>Implying you know what evil is

>implying you are in any position to judge God

Same Recycled "oh woes is me" problem of evil argument.

If God is responsible for this world he is reponsible for all the evil in it. YES I CAN JUDGE GOD. FUCK GOD! He is responsible for Hitler, for 9/11, child rape, genocide, ethnic cleansing, persecution and discrimination, starvation, north korea. All of it! He is the most disgusting and evil fictional character one can ever imagine.

This guy!

[Individuality-ness]

I guess they start using your name for their strawmen because you're more visible?

I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.

Only reason it'd make sense, I see you in every debate thread I get into. :/

I have faith that Halle Berry is in my house in a sexy Santa outfit.
*looks around*
Damnit!

I tried to do something very similar a little while ago with Ishtar and Freyja, with similar results.

Still not brave enough to try Cthulhu though.

CthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhu!

[New Mobile City]

I dunno. I reported him, because technically it's an attack on the poster.

Only reason it'd make sense, I see you in every debate thread I get into. :/

I tried to do something very similar a little while ago with Ishtar and Freyja, with similar results.

Still not brave enough to try Cthulhu though.

CthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhu!

FUCK CTHULHU!!!!!

YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!

[Genivaria]

Only reason it'd make sense, I see you in every debate thread I get into. :/


CthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhuCthulhu!

FUCK CTHULHU!!!!!

YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!

Prepare your anus for tentacles.

[Twilliamson]

alright then i have faith santa exist (not really trying to prove a point) so that proves santa exist.

I have faith that Halle Berry is in my house in a sexy Santa outfit.
*looks around*
Damnit!

let me try something, i have faith i had 2 billion dollars. hey whats this check doing here. Wait 2 billions dollars, yes i am rich, i worked this proves god must exist somehow

[New Mobile City]

FUCK CTHULHU!!!!!

YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!

Prepare your anus for tentacles.

Oh yes, please!

[The New Sea Territory]

Your point?

He's claimed that I've said "God is BS" three times now and has never actually quoted me seriously saying that.

Not so much as that, but you have said "Your Ideas are BS' to me, when I was speaking of God. So, I would think you are an atheist. I'm not trying to say your wrong, just saying that you posted against me many times without actually making your own point.

[Genivaria]

He's claimed that I've said "God is BS" three times now and has never actually quoted me seriously saying that.

Not so much as that, but you have said "Your Ideas are BS' to me, when I was speaking of God. So, I would think you are an atheist. I'm not trying to say your wrong, just saying that you posted against me many times without actually making your own point.

Your ideas ARE bs just as your arguments are bs.