Israel-Palestine conflict

[Ralkovia]

Fucking Europeans. We can't win. Can we?

We?

Israel.

Damned if we do. Damned if we don't.

[Novraslavia]

We?

Israel.

Damned if we do. Damned if we don't.

For a second I though by "we" you meant you and I, but I was all like "I'm pro-Palestinian, I ain't with you".

[The God-Realm]

Canaanites.

Did i win or are they not related to Arabs?

What are you talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

According to the Bible's Old Testament they were there before the Jews.

[Ralkovia]

Israel.

Damned if we do. Damned if we don't.

For a second I though by "we" you meant you and I, but I was all like "I'm pro-Palestinian, I ain't with you".

Pro-Palestine doesn't exclude being pro-Israel, unless your a douchebag and make exception to the one Jewish State in the World.

[Ralkovia]

What are you talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

According to the Bible's Old Testament they were there before the Jews.

And?

[Novraslavia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

According to the Bible's Old Testament they were there before the Jews.

Coming from the guy who wants the Jews to move to Siberia.

It's called the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, and it was set aside by the Soviet government in 1934 to act as a home for Russian Jews. The Governor of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast is Alexander Vinnikov, who is Jewish.

[Ralkovia]

Coming from the guy who wants the Jews to move to Siberia.

It's called the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, and it was set aside by the Soviet government in 1934 to act as a home for Russian Jews. The Governor of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast is Alexander Vinnikov, who is Jewish.

It was set aside by Stalin, who didn't want the Jews in Moscow, because he was a virulent anti-semite, on par with Hitler. After WW2, he tried to peg the Jews as Communism's greatest enemy so he could purge the entire Soviet Union of Jews in leadership. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast was purged multiple times during Stalin's leadership and the Oblast quickly became a place most Jews didn't actually want to live in. Currently 2000 Jews live there. A far cry from the 7 million living in Israel.

However, I'm sure we can just trade with the "palestinians." They can have a homeland in Russia.

[Novraslavia]

It's called the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, and it was set aside by the Soviet government in 1934 to act as a home for Russian Jews. The Governor of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast is Alexander Vinnikov, who is Jewish.

It was set aside by Stalin, who didn't want the Jews in Moscow, because he was a virulent anti-semite, on par with Hitler. After WW2, he tried to peg the Jews as Communism's greatest enemy so he could purge the entire Soviet Union of Jews in leadership. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast was purged multiple times during Stalin's leadership and the Oblast quickly became a place most Jews didn't actually want to live in. Currently 2000 Jews live there. A far cry from the 7 million living in Israel.

However, I'm sure we can just trade with the "palestinians." They can have a homeland in Russia.

That may be true, which I'm pretty sure it is, but things have changed since the years under Joseph Stalin. The JAO, from what I hear, is now a relatively nice place to live.

It probably wouldn't fit all of Israel's Jews though. Or maybe it would. Who knows?

[Ralkovia]

It was set aside by Stalin, who didn't want the Jews in Moscow, because he was a virulent anti-semite, on par with Hitler. After WW2, he tried to peg the Jews as Communism's greatest enemy so he could purge the entire Soviet Union of Jews in leadership. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast was purged multiple times during Stalin's leadership and the Oblast quickly became a place most Jews didn't actually want to live in. Currently 2000 Jews live there. A far cry from the 7 million living in Israel.

However, I'm sure we can just trade with the "palestinians." They can have a homeland in Russia.

That may be true, which I'm pretty sure it is, but things have changed since the years under Joseph Stalin. The JAO, from what I hear, is now a relatively nice place to live.

It probably wouldn't fit all of Israeli's Jews though. Or maybe it will. Who knows?

How about we try with the Palestinians instead.

[Novraslavia]

That may be true, which I'm pretty sure it is, but things have changed since the years under Joseph Stalin. The JAO, from what I hear, is now a relatively nice place to live.

It probably wouldn't fit all of Israeli's Jews though. Or maybe it will. Who knows?

How about we try with the Palestinians instead.

Because it's the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and not the Palestinian Autonomous Oblast.

[Ralkovia]

How about we try with the Palestinians instead.

Because it's the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and not the Palestinian Autonomous Oblast.

2000 Jews in the middle of nowhere does not a Jewish Autonomous Oblast make. However, we'd be quite willing to trade.

[Novraslavia]

Because it's the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and not the Palestinian Autonomous Oblast.

2000 Jews in the middle of nowhere does not a Jewish Autonomous Oblast make. However, we'd be quite willing to trade.

Nope. There's already an area set aside for the Palestinians. It's located between Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

[Ralkovia]

2000 Jews in the middle of nowhere does not a Jewish Autonomous Oblast make. However, we'd be quite willing to trade.

Nope. There's already an area set aside for the Palestinians. It's located between Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

Not really. Since the Palestinians have 0 Power in this World, it doesn't matter what you think. It matters whose around now.

You can hope and dream of the day that the douche dream of Israel not existing happens, but it'd be far easier to contemplate Israel just not giving a shit about the Palestinians any longer and building a wall to keep them out...actually that's what's happening now.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Nope. There's already an area set aside for the Palestinians. It's located between Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

Not really. Since the Palestinians have 0 Power in this World, it doesn't matter what you think. It matters whose around now.

You can hope and dream of the day that the douche dream of Israel not existing happens, but it'd be far easier to contemplate Israel just not giving a shit about the Palestinians any longer and building a wall to keep them out...actually that's what's happening now.

It's kind of nicer to imagine the conflict being sorted out and views like yours rejected, and everyone there living in peace, and no more palestinians being kicked off of the land they'd lived on for so long.

[Novraslavia]

Nope. There's already an area set aside for the Palestinians. It's located between Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

Not really. Since the Palestinians have 0 Power in this World, it doesn't matter what you think. It matters whose around now.

You can hope and dream of the day that the douche dream of Israel not existing happens, but it'd be far easier to contemplate Israel just not giving a shit about the Palestinians any longer and building a wall to keep them out...actually that's what's happening now.

The Palestinians were "around now" in 1947, but they still got displaced.

[Lowell Leber]

Not really. Since the Palestinians have 0 Power in this World, it doesn't matter what you think. It matters whose around now.

You can hope and dream of the day that the douche dream of Israel not existing happens, but it'd be far easier to contemplate Israel just not giving a shit about the Palestinians any longer and building a wall to keep them out...actually that's what's happening now.

The Palestinians were "around now" in 1947, but they still got displaced.

There was no such thing as a Palestinian in 1947...

[Novraslavia]

The Palestinians were "around now" in 1947, but they still got displaced.

There was no such thing as a Palestinian in 1947...

Isn't that when the State of Israel was formed?

[Ralkovia]

Not really. Since the Palestinians have 0 Power in this World, it doesn't matter what you think. It matters whose around now.

You can hope and dream of the day that the douche dream of Israel not existing happens, but it'd be far easier to contemplate Israel just not giving a shit about the Palestinians any longer and building a wall to keep them out...actually that's what's happening now.

The Palestinians were "around now" in 1947, but they still got displaced.

That's the thing, the Palestinians never were around. They never existed as an autonomous government and the Arabs removed them from Israel so they could clean up the nasty little Jews. How did that work out for them?

You do realize that a large number of Israeli-Arabs had joined the Jews and fought for them. Meaning that many Arabs liked the Jews better than the rest of the Arab Nationalists that wanted the Jews out.

Sucks to suck. Should have stayed in Israel and fought with the Jews instead of kowtowing.

[Lowell Leber]

There was no such thing as a Palestinian in 1947...

Isn't that when the State of Israel was formed?

Yes..I think. But, that doesnt mean that Palestinians were around. The people you are referring to are either Jordanians or Syrians, or simply "Arabs".

[Ralkovia]

Not really. Since the Palestinians have 0 Power in this World, it doesn't matter what you think. It matters whose around now.

You can hope and dream of the day that the douche dream of Israel not existing happens, but it'd be far easier to contemplate Israel just not giving a shit about the Palestinians any longer and building a wall to keep them out...actually that's what's happening now.

It's kind of nicer to imagine the conflict being sorted out and views like yours rejected, and everyone there living in peace, and no more palestinians being kicked off of the land they'd lived on for so long.

Hey it'd be nice to imagine you calling out a man trying to deny Israel's right to exist. Honestly, the 1 state solution won't work. It's 2 states or it's everyone going to be miserable for a very long time.

[Penguin Union Nation]

Fuck both sides of the conflict. Pave over the whole area and install a parking lot for Asia.

[Novraslavia]

Isn't that when the State of Israel was formed?

Yes..I think. But, that doesnt mean that Palestinians were around. The people you are referring to are either Jordanians or Syrians, or simply "Arabs".

Well my bad. You get the gist of what I'm trying to say though. Right?

It's kind of nicer to imagine the conflict being sorted out and views like yours rejected, and everyone there living in peace, and no more palestinians being kicked off of the land they'd lived on for so long.

Hey it'd be nice to imagine you calling out a man trying to deny Israel's right to exist. Honestly, the 1 state solution won't work. It's 2 states or it's everyone going to be miserable for a very long time.

I believe in Palestine's right to exist, and Nicer potlimitomaha calls me a Jew hater for it. Maybe you guys just hate Muslims and are supporting Israel only because the alternative is another Muslim state.

[Sulamalik]

Guys guys guys, we're going about this all wrong. To defeat the Zionists we needn't relocate Israel to Siberia, all that is necessary is to let time pass, and insha'allah the demographics of the country itself tear the Jewish state asunder.

The propagation of Greater Israel will be the death of Jewish Israel!

Takbir
Allahu Akbar
takbir
Allahu Akbar

(Just Kidding)

[North Stradia]

Guys guys guys, we're going about this all wrong. To destroy Israel we needn't relocate them to Siberia, all that is necessary is to let time pass, and the demographics of the country itself tear the Jewish state asunder.

The propagation of Greater Israel will be the death of Jewish Israel!

Takbir
Allahu Akbar
takbir
Allahu Akbar

If you're going to spout you're anti semitic nonsense I'm going to do this. Freedom of speech.

[Sulamalik]

Guys guys guys, we're going about this all wrong. To destroy Israel we needn't relocate them to Siberia, all that is necessary is to let time pass, and the demographics of the country itself tear the Jewish state asunder.

The propagation of Greater Israel will be the death of Jewish Israel!

Takbir
Allahu Akbar
takbir
Allahu Akbar

If you're going to spout you're anti semitic nonsense I'm going to do this. Freedom of speech.

Not a Sunni.