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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:03 pm

Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:
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The Palestinians were living there much before the Balfour Declaration was even thought of.



Yeah and the Jews were living there long before the Palestinians even came into existence.


I would ask for proof but Im expecting ancient scripture.

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Postby Nicer potlimitomaha » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:09 pm

Dilange wrote:
Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:

Yeah and the Jews were living there long before the Palestinians even came into existence.


I would ask for proof but Im expecting ancient scripture.



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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:11 pm

Dilange wrote:
Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:

Yeah and the Jews were living there long before the Palestinians even came into existence.


I would ask for proof but Im expecting ancient scripture.


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Postby Novraslavia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:26 pm

Dilange wrote:
Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:

Yeah and the Jews were living there long before the Palestinians even came into existence.


I would ask for proof but Im expecting ancient scripture.

There is physical proof besides ancient scripture that the Jews were in Israel prior to the Palestinians, but that doesn't mean the land belongs to them anymore than Mexico belongs to the Mixtec and Aztec people.
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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:43 pm

Novraslavia wrote:
Dilange wrote:
I would ask for proof but Im expecting ancient scripture.

There is physical proof besides ancient scripture that the Jews were in Israel prior to the Palestinians, but that doesn't mean the land belongs to them anymore than Mexico belongs to the Mixtec and Aztec people.


No, the land would belong to them after the Aztecs came back and took it back. Just like Israel did.

The only argument that you have would be "The Invader Became the Occupier because he lived there long enough."

So the solution seems to be, wait.
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Postby Xathranaar » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:02 pm

Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:
Dilange wrote:
The Palestinians were living there much before the Balfour Declaration was even thought of.



Yeah and the Jews were living there long before the Palestinians even came into existence.

The Palestinians are the Jews that were living there.
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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:09 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:

Yeah and the Jews were living there long before the Palestinians even came into existence.

The Palestinians are the Jews that were living there.


Not really. They stopped being Jews the second they started being Muslims.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:13 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:The Palestinians are the Jews that were living there.


Not really. They stopped being Jews the second they started being Muslims.

Jews are people of the jewish faith and/OR people of the jewish ethnicity.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:14 pm

Make Palestine, but don't go on the 1967 borders. Israel should get more leverage on their side, only because its roughly fifteen miles across in the stripl that links the north and south.

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Postby Nicer potlimitomaha » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:22 pm

Aeken wrote:Make Palestine, but don't go on the 1967 borders. Israel should get more leverage on their side, only because its roughly fifteen miles across in the stripl that links the north and south.



9 mile not 15 mile.
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Postby Nicer potlimitomaha » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:24 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
Not really. They stopped being Jews the second they started being Muslims.

Jews are people of the jewish faith and/OR people of the jewish ethnicity.



That's what Hitler said to destroy the whole idea of CONVERT OR DIE that was the standard anti-semitism in Europe's history.
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Postby Catan » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:28 pm

Take away US military aid, pull all troops from the region. Blockade the region until only one state remains. Move in, buy oil.

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Postby Aeken » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:30 pm

Nicer potlimitomaha wrote:
Aeken wrote:Make Palestine, but don't go on the 1967 borders. Israel should get more leverage on their side, only because its roughly fifteen miles across in the stripl that links the north and south.



9 mile not 15 mile.

That's worse. I was afraid I'd get that wrong. I just remember a little bit from some texts.

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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:30 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
Not really. They stopped being Jews the second they started being Muslims.

Jews are people of the jewish faith and/OR people of the jewish ethnicity.


Weren't you one of the people who just said if you consider yourself X than you are X.
The Palestinians don't consider themselves Jewish. Neither are they Jewish.
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Postby Catan » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:32 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Jews are people of the jewish faith and/OR people of the jewish ethnicity.


Weren't you one of the people who just said if you consider yourself X than you are X.
The Palestinians don't consider themselves Jewish. Neither are they Jewish.

Nevertheless, they owned the land before the Jews started immigrating in 1880 from Europe, and then proceeded to wage a war of terror against the British to secure their own state, and then confiscated the property of victims of war.

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Postby Catan » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:33 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Novraslavia wrote:There is physical proof besides ancient scripture that the Jews were in Israel prior to the Palestinians, but that doesn't mean the land belongs to them anymore than Mexico belongs to the Mixtec and Aztec people.


No, the land would belong to them after the Aztecs came back and took it back. Just like Israel did.

The only argument that you have would be "The Invader Became the Occupier because he lived there long enough."

So the solution seems to be, wait.

By your logic, Israel belongs to the Caananites.

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Postby Nicer potlimitomaha » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:46 pm

Catan wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
Weren't you one of the people who just said if you consider yourself X than you are X.
The Palestinians don't consider themselves Jewish. Neither are they Jewish.

Nevertheless, they owned the land before the Jews started immigrating in 1880 from Europe, and then proceeded to wage a war of terror against the British to secure their own state, and then confiscated the property of victims of war.



THe Palestinians NEVER owned the land.First it was cavemen, then Canaanites, then Jews, then Romans, THe Byzantines, then Arab kingdoms, then Ottamans, then Britian, then Israel. THere was NEEVER a Palestinian state and unless the Palestinians retake Jordan, there will never be one again.
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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:47 pm

Catan wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
No, the land would belong to them after the Aztecs came back and took it back. Just like Israel did.

The only argument that you have would be "The Invader Became the Occupier because he lived there long enough."

So the solution seems to be, wait.

By your logic, Israel belongs to the Caananites.


Canaanites no longer exist do they?
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Postby Nicer potlimitomaha » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:43 pm

Catan wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
No, the land would belong to them after the Aztecs came back and took it back. Just like Israel did.

The only argument that you have would be "The Invader Became the Occupier because he lived there long enough."

So the solution seems to be, wait.

By your logic, Israel belongs to the Caananites.



By your logic, wait what are you saying???????
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Postby Costa Alegria » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:55 pm

Novraslavia wrote:
Dilange wrote:
I would ask for proof but Im expecting ancient scripture.

There is physical proof besides ancient scripture that the Jews were in Israel prior to the Palestinians, but that doesn't mean the land belongs to them anymore than Mexico belongs to the Mixtec and Aztec people.


Difference being is that the Jews were forced out of their homes by the Romans. Many of the descendants of the Aztecs, Mixtecs, Olmecs and the Mayans still live on ancient ancestral lands in Mexico and still speak the language.
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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:16 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Novraslavia wrote:There is physical proof besides ancient scripture that the Jews were in Israel prior to the Palestinians, but that doesn't mean the land belongs to them anymore than Mexico belongs to the Mixtec and Aztec people.


Difference being is that the Jews were forced out of their homes by the Romans. Many of the descendants of the Aztecs, Mixtecs, Olmecs and the Mayans still live on ancient ancestral lands in Mexico and still speak the language.


Fucking Europeans. We can't win. Can we?
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Postby The God-Realm » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:18 pm

Canaanites.

Did i win or are they not related to Arabs?
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Postby Costa Alegria » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:18 pm

Ralkovia wrote:Fucking Europeans. We can't win. Can we?


You don't live in a country where a leading academic at a university refers to all non-indigenous peoples as "guests".
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Postby Novraslavia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:29 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Difference being is that the Jews were forced out of their homes by the Romans. Many of the descendants of the Aztecs, Mixtecs, Olmecs and the Mayans still live on ancient ancestral lands in Mexico and still speak the language.


Fucking Europeans. We can't win. Can we?

We?
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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:29 pm

The God-Realm wrote:Canaanites.

Did i win or are they not related to Arabs?


What are you talking about?
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