Israel-Palestine conflict

[Divair]

A. What?

The reason Arabs don't serve is because the government is full of paranoid supremacists like you who think that if the Arabs serve, they'll try to sabotage the IDF.

B. Maybe a very small minority

Unless you have evidence, you're wrong.

C. No, we don't, it is our land.

Says who?

D. We terrorize them? They explode in buses, what does Tag Mehir do? Maybe, MAYBE, making graffiti.

I'm assuming you just choose to ignore the countless settlers who massacre Arabs, right?

Like, say, this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_th ... s_massacre

E. No, if they "support" our existence, they are probably supporters of the bi-national state, which, at the end, is against our existence.

There isn't a single Palestinian who supports a one state solution, because they know it'll end in apartheid. Most support a two state solution based roughly on the 67' lines, which is completely reasonable.

[DogDoo 7]

Because I generally talk with normal people and not raging assholes?

Yeah but the raging assholes vastly outnumber the normal people.

Says the person who's been to Palestine exactly 0 times. I've tried really hard to meet one of the assholes, it's almost like buying drugs. *psst, can you take me to meet an asshole?*

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Yeah but the raging assholes vastly outnumber the normal people.

yes and I'm sure the IDF's whole "demolish entire blocks of houses near the border of if we even suspect that Hamas is operating there policy, and its "blockade the Gaza strip so that basic human necessities must be smuggled in through Hamas-controlled tunnels" policies, along with the squatters in Ariel and the other settlements diverting basic utilities like water and electricity away from palestinian areas, all have absolutely nothing to do with that. Peace is impossible until you recognize the legitimacy of both sides' complaints

The Palestinians have no legitamite complaints.

[Divair]

Yeah but the raging assholes vastly outnumber the normal people.

Says the person who's been to Palestine exactly 0 times. I've tried really hard to meet one of the assholes, it's almost like buying drugs. *psst, can you take me to meet an asshole?*

They're mostly walled up in Gaza. Not many left in the West Bank.

[DogDoo 7]

There isn't a single Palestinian who supports a one state solution, because they know it'll end in apartheid. Most support a two state solution based roughly on the 67' lines, which is completely reasonable.

Wait, what? I agree that most support 2 states but there's plenty of support for a one person-one vote single state.

[Divair]

There isn't a single Palestinian who supports a one state solution, because they know it'll end in apartheid. Most support a two state solution based roughly on the 67' lines, which is completely reasonable.

Wait, what? I agree that most support 2 states but there's plenty of support for a one person-one vote single state.

Not really, no. You and I both know it'll end in apartheid and then Arab supremacy as a revenge tactic (South Africa anyone?).

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Yeah but the raging assholes vastly outnumber the normal people.

Says the person who's been to Palestine exactly 0 times. I've tried really hard to meet one of the assholes, it's almost like buying drugs. *psst, can you take me to meet an asshole?*

1) define Palestine
2) I'm considering making Aliyah so that statement might go out the window soon enough

[Yehuddah]

A. What?

The reason Arabs don't serve is because the government is full of paranoid supremacists like you who think that if the Arabs serve, they'll try to sabotage the IDF.

B. Maybe a very small minority

Unless you have evidence, you're wrong.

C. No, we don't, it is our land.

Says who?

D. We terrorize them? They explode in buses, what does Tag Mehir do? Maybe, MAYBE, making graffiti.

I'm assuming you just choose to ignore the countless settlers who massacre Arabs, right?

Like, say, this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_th ... s_massacre

E. No, if they "support" our existence, they are probably supporters of the bi-national state, which, at the end, is against our existence.

There isn't a single Palestinian who supports a one state solution, because they know it'll end in apartheid. Most support a two state solution based roughly on the 67' lines, which is completely reasonable.

A. Just saying, as long as they remain here (and I'm not happy about it) they shall go to National service rather than the IDF, I don't trust them with a gun.

[Nomelan]

yes and I'm sure the IDF's whole "demolish entire blocks of houses near the border of if we even suspect that Hamas is operating there policy, and its "blockade the Gaza strip so that basic human necessities must be smuggled in through Hamas-controlled tunnels" policies, along with the squatters in Ariel and the other settlements diverting basic utilities like water and electricity away from palestinian areas, all have absolutely nothing to do with that. Peace is impossible until you recognize the legitimacy of both sides' complaints

The Palestinians have no legitamite complaints.

and so peace is impossible.
Edit: or it would be, with you in charge.

[Divair]

A. Just saying, as long as they remain here (and I'm not happy about it) they shall go to National service rather than the IDF, I don't trust them with a gun.

Tell it to the paranoid government.

[Divair]

The Palestinians have no legitamite complaints.

and so peace is impossible.

Welcome to the Middle East.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

We need to get "everything" because they don't even deserve a "thing".
This is OUR land, OUR.
They can't keep claiming it's their land because their ancestor's camel pooped there once.
We need to physically move them outside the Jewish state.

Case in point.

And your claim about how your ancestors camel pooped there and also my little book says so is so much better, eh?

Physically removing ethnic groups from your state never goes well.

But voluntarily movement always works well.

[DogDoo 7]

Says the person who's been to Palestine exactly 0 times. I've tried really hard to meet one of the assholes, it's almost like buying drugs. *psst, can you take me to meet an asshole?*

They're mostly walled up in Gaza. Not many left in the West Bank.

Or they just get their kicks by oppressing Palestinian women instead since they are usually less likely to be armed than a settler or soldier.

[Divair]

They're mostly walled up in Gaza. Not many left in the West Bank.

Or they just get their kicks by oppressing Palestinian women instead since they are usually less likely to be armed than a settler or soldier.

True and sad story. They are no better than the ultra-Orthodox who spit on women who don't sit in the back of the bus.

[Yehuddah]

Case in point.

And your claim about how your ancestors camel pooped there and also my little book says so is so much better, eh?

Physically removing ethnic groups from your state never goes well.

But voluntarily movement always works well.

Yes, that's exactly what I said, to let them move volunterily, those who DON'T, will be PHYSICALLY move.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Palestinians have no legitamite complaints.

and so peace is impossible.
Edit: or it would be, with you in charge.

No if Palestine would be freed from the Heshemites then peace would be accomplished.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

But voluntarily movement always works well.

Yes, that's exactly what I said, to let them move volunterily, those who DON'T, will be PHYSICALLY move.

The few who remain will be given Israeli citizenship.

[Yehuddah]

Or they just get their kicks by oppressing Palestinian women instead since they are usually less likely to be armed than a settler or soldier.

True and sad story. They are no better than the ultra-Orthodox who spit on women who don't sit in the back of the bus.

Spitting on women is impolite and immature, I don't support them using those means, however, I am in favor, in they're buses, to let them do this seperation, at the end, also their women are in favor of it.

[Divair]

True and sad story. They are no better than the ultra-Orthodox who spit on women who don't sit in the back of the bus.

Spitting on women is impolite and immature, I don't support them using those means, however, I am in favor, in they're buses, to let them do this seperation, at the end, also their women are in favor of it.

If women were in favour of being forced to segregate, they wouldn't protest against it. Shame on you for supporting such disgusting discrimination.

[Yehuddah]

Yes, that's exactly what I said, to let them move volunterily, those who DON'T, will be PHYSICALLY move.

The few who remain will be given Israeli citizenship.

And then they will grow, from few hundreds of thousands, to few millions..................

[Yehuddah]

Spitting on women is impolite and immature, I don't support them using those means, however, I am in favor, in they're buses, to let them do this seperation, at the end, also their women are in favor of it.

If women were in favour of being forced to segregate, they wouldn't protest against it. Shame on you for supporting such disgusting discrimination.

Don't you get it, THEIR WOMEN ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, AND IT'S THEIR BUSES, if their women would have been against it, I would have been as well.

[Divair]

The few who remain will be given Israeli citizenship.

And then they will grow, from few hundreds of thousands, to few millions..................

And maybe if you didn't treat them like shit they won't force apartheid upon you.

[Divair]

If women were in favour of being forced to segregate, they wouldn't protest against it. Shame on you for supporting such disgusting discrimination.

Don't you get it, THEIR WOMEN ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, AND IT'S THEIR BUSES, if their women would have been against it, I would have been as well.

It's not "their" buses, it's the government's buses, and they're not in favour of it.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The few who remain will be given Israeli citizenship.

And then they will grow, from few hundreds of thousands, to few millions..................

Hasidic birth rates and the reduced birth rates that come with modernization of the Palestinians would stop that.

[Yehuddah]

Don't you get it, THEIR WOMEN ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, AND IT'S THEIR BUSES, if their women would have been against it, I would have been as well.

It's not "their" buses, it's the government's buses, and they're not in favour of it.

The women protesting are not Haredi, to at least minimally understand the Haredim you can watch Amnon Levi's show: Haredim.