Israel-Palestine conflict

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Divair, the holocaust was a mass MURDER of Jews, I'm talking about MOVING them, find the difference.

Madagascar Plan.

They just didn't want Jews in their German state. And they refused to leave. What would you do when the Palestinians refuse to leave?

The few who remain after the liberation of Palestine(Jordan) will be given Israeli citizenship.

[Menassa]

He thinks that Ashkenazis are the only real Jews (don't look at me, I love the diversity in Judaism)

It is an entire research already explained, but shortly, in Worrying Fact: 55% of the Jews in the states are intermarrying,

Sir, the only Jews we can prove with DNA are the Kohanim... the priestly families... and their are Sephardim Kohanim.

[Yehuddah]

Madagascar Plan.

They just didn't want Jews in their German state. And they refused to leave. What would you do when the Palestinians refuse to leave?

The few who remain after the liberation of Palestine(Jordan) will be given Israeli citizenship.

Never.

[Menassa]

He thinks that Ashkenazis are the only real Jews (don't look at me, I love the diversity in Judaism)

It is an entire research already explained, but shortly, in Worrying Fact: 55% of the Jews in the states are intermarrying,

Someone clearly didn't pay attention to his Junior Minyan.

[Suiseiseki]

He thinks that Ashkenazis are the only real Jews (don't look at me, I love the diversity in Judaism)

It is an entire research already explained, but shortly, in Worrying Fact: 55% of the Jews in the states are intermarrying,

mother of gawd

How dare people marry their loved ones!

[Yehuddah]

It is an entire research already explained, but shortly, in Worrying Fact: 55% of the Jews in the states are intermarrying,

Sir, the only Jews we can prove with DNA are the Kohanim... the priestly families... and their are Sephardim Kohanim.

Sephardim, and Mizrachim are intermarried Jews, by my research, only us Ashkenazim are pure.

[DogDoo 7]

He thinks that Ashkenazis are the only real Jews (don't look at me, I love the diversity in Judaism)

That doesn't make any sense.

I know. I guess it has something to do with Noah's Ark or something, like the Ashkenazi Jews "stayed pure" while all the other Jews intermarried with mudbloods or whatever and became Gentiles. If I'm misrepresenting his argument he is free to correct me, but this is what I understood from talking with him. But yes, I completely agree that it's 100% bollocks.

[Divair]

only us Ashkenazim are pure.

Gotta love the sound of Nazi-like ideology in the morning.

[Menassa]

Sir, the only Jews we can prove with DNA are the Kohanim... the priestly families... and their are Sephardim Kohanim.

Sephardim, and Mizrachim and intermarried Jews, by my research, only us Ashkenazim are pure.

You do know.... Judaism is passed matrilenially right?

So... your Pseudo-Scientific research has been cut in half...

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The few who remain after the liberation of Palestine(Jordan) will be given Israeli citizenship.

Never.

Whatver drawbacks don't even come anywhere close to the benefits both short-term and long-term

[DogDoo 7]

How can you not consider These people your enemy?

Do I need to explain the problem here is treating "the Palestinians" like one monolithic entity and calling them the enemy?

So Yehuddah as far as I can tell your argument now appears to be "I'm not Hitler. I'm actually more a "Stalin" style."

The irony is that if they actually had a state and were doing "odrub odrub" then we could actually SAY that "we are at war with Palestine." As it stands now, it's just a bunch of residents of Israel who are pissed that they are denied basic political and human rights.

[Yehuddah]

Sephardim, and Mizrachim and intermarried Jews, by my research, only us Ashkenazim are pure.

You do know.... Judaism is passed matrilenially right?

So... your Pseudo-Scientific research has been cut in half...

I consider Jews, not by Halachah, but by nationality.

[Nomelan]

You don't hate, you just consider them "the enemy" and are flabbergasted at the concept of TALKING?

So yeah, basically, you get everything you want they get told to fuck off to another country.

We need to get "everything" because they don't even deserve a "thing".
This is OUR land, OUR.
They can't keep claiming it's their land because their ancestor's camel pooped there once.
We need to physically move them outside the Jewish state.

"But your arse is so black and sooty" said the kettle to the pot

[DogDoo 7]

You do know.... Judaism is passed matrilenially right?

So... your Pseudo-Scientific research has been cut in half...

I consider Jews, not by Halachah, but by nationality.

And this my friends, is exactly why "<insert religion> nationalism" is a fucking terrible thing.

[Souseiseki]

We need to get "everything" because they don't even deserve a "thing".
This is OUR land, OUR.
They can't keep claiming it's their land because their ancestor's camel pooped there once.
We need to physically move them outside the Jewish state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

[Divair]

I consider Jews, not by Halachah, but by nationality.

And this my friends, is exactly why "<insert religion> nationalism" is a fucking terrible thing.

Just nationalism in general. I guess some people didn't learn from WW1 and WW2.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

How can you not consider These people your enemy?

Because I generally talk with normal people and not raging assholes?

Yeah but the raging assholes vastly outnumber the normal people.

[Yehuddah]

Do I need to explain the problem here is treating "the Palestinians" like one monolithic entity and calling them the enemy?

So Yehuddah as far as I can tell your argument now appears to be "I'm not Hitler. I'm actually more a "Stalin" style."

The irony is that if they actually had a state and were doing "odrub odrub" then we could actually SAY that "we are at war with Palestine." As it stands now, it's just a bunch of residents of Israel who are pissed that they are denied basic political and human rights.

Nonsense, Arab has more rights than us,
-They don't have to go to the army, and to do national service.
-They don't have to pay taxes, yet they can take our taxes for their living
-They are ilegally operating businesses
-They are illegaly building on public land
-They are terrorizing us
-And at the same time, they can say they are ultimately against our existence and get all of the above.
Oh, and at the end, they call us oppressors and racists.

[DogDoo 7]

We need to get "everything" because they don't even deserve a "thing".
This is OUR land, OUR.
They can't keep claiming it's their land because their ancestor's camel pooped there once.
We need to physically move them outside the Jewish state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

Hooray! The first time this was posted by someone other than me!

[Divair]

-They don't have to go to the army, and to do national service.

A policy implemented because of racist supremacists like you who think that if we let Arabs serve, we'll all die and Satan himself will walk the Earth. Or something along those lines.

-They don't have to pay taxes, yet they can take our taxes for their living

They pay taxes.

-They are ilegally operating businesses

Source?

-They are illegaly building on public land

So are we, genius.

-They are terrorizing us

Some of them are terrorizing us and some of us are terrorizing them.

-And at the same time, they can say they are ultimately against our existence and get all of the above.

Plenty of Palestinian citizens support Israel's right to exist. Maybe you'd know that if you spoke to more of them.

[Menassa]

You do know.... Judaism is passed matrilenially right?

So... your Pseudo-Scientific research has been cut in half...

I consider Jews, not by Halachah, but by nationality.

Well, you've gained: -1000 Credibility.... you would claim to be above God?

How interesting?

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

How can you not consider These people your enemy?

Do I need to explain the problem here is treating "the Palestinians" like one monolithic entity and calling them the enemy?

So Yehuddah as far as I can tell your argument now appears to be "I'm not Hitler. I'm actually more a "Stalin" style."

I don't treat all Palestinians like one monolithic entity and not all Palestinians are the enemy. Also i'm not Yehuddah/Ashkland

[Nomelan]

Because I generally talk with normal people and not raging assholes?

Yeah but the raging assholes vastly outnumber the normal people.

yes and I'm sure the IDF's whole "demolish entire blocks of houses near the border of if we even suspect that Hamas is operating there policy, and its "blockade the Gaza strip so that basic human necessities must be smuggled in through Hamas-controlled tunnels" policies, along with the squatters in Ariel and the other settlements diverting basic utilities like water and electricity away from palestinian areas, all have absolutely nothing to do with that. Peace is impossible until you recognize the legitimacy of both sides' complaints

[Yehuddah]

-They don't have to go to the army, and to do national service.

A policy implemented because of racist supremacists like you who think that if we let Arabs serve, we'll all die and Satan himself will walk the Earth. Or something along those lines.

-They don't have to pay taxes, yet they can take our taxes for their living

They pay taxes.

-They are ilegally operating businesses

Source?

-They are illegaly building on public land

So are we, genius.

-They are terrorizing us

Some of them are terrorizing us and some of us are terrorizing them.

-And at the same time, they can say they are ultimately against our existence and get all of the above.

Plenty of Palestinian citizens support Israel's right to exist. Maybe you'd know that if you spoke to more of them.

A. What?
B. Maybe a very small minority
C. No, we don't, it is our land.
D. We terrorize them? They explode in buses, what does Tag Mehir do? Maybe, MAYBE, making graffiti.
E. No, if they "support" our existence, they are probably supporters of the bi-national state, which, at the end, is against our existence.

[DogDoo 7]

The irony is that if they actually had a state and were doing "odrub odrub" then we could actually SAY that "we are at war with Palestine." As it stands now, it's just a bunch of residents of Israel who are pissed that they are denied basic political and human rights.

Nonsense, Arab has more rights than us,
-They don't have to go to the army, and to do national service.

I agree that in theory they should be required to do some form of national service. But as long as we're handing out exemptions to yeshiva students and denying that the Nakhba was A Thing That Happened, they shouldn't be required to go.

-They don't have to pay taxes, yet they can take our taxes for their living

The fuck??? What do you mean "they don't have to pay taxes?" Is there some sort of magical tax repellant that covers Arab villages? And since when are Jewish Israelis known for keeping completely honest books?

-They are ilegally operating businesses

Because the government denies them licenses just because they're Arab

-They are illegaly building on public land

Because the government denies them permits and confiscates their private land for state projects.

-They are terrorizing us

We are terrorizing them. There's this whole concept of "cycle of violence," maybe you've heard of it?

-And at the same time, they can say they are ultimately against our existence and get all of the above.

They're against you RULING them. They're not against you EXISTING here. lrn2distinguish