Israel-Palestine conflict

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

His entire "plan" involves renaming Jordan into Palestine, which will magically make all the Palestinians believe that this country across the river is the real Palestine and they will all voluntarily pack up everything they own and make a mass exodus to their "homeland", that totally wasn't just made up a few seconds ago.

He's living in dream world isn't he. It's like going back to the WWII, and renaming Hitler's concentration camp "Israel" would make them some how think it's home.

Jordan IS Palestine. Always has been, is and always will be Palestine. I live in reality. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[United States of Peace]

If Israel were to eject all Palestinians into Jordan, should Israel pay compensation to the Jordan Government?

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He's living in dream world isn't he. It's like going back to the WWII, and renaming Hitler's concentration camp "Israel" would make them some how think it's home.

Jordan IS Palestine. Always has been, is and always will be Palestine. I live in reality. You should be ashamed of yourself.

So if Jordan is Palestine, how did all those Palestinians who've been evicted from their homes over the past century get there in the first place? Their families just got lost and accidentally settled in the future-State-of-Israel by mistake a thousand years ago, and foolishly continued to live on that land for centuries on end, blissfully unaware that it wasn't actually their home the whole time?

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Jews aren't an ethnicity though.

Is that so. Please, enlighten me.

Saying that Jews are an ethnicity is like saying that Christians are an ethnicity or muslims are an ethnicity.

THat said I support the right of every group to a homeland. Even the Palestinians.

So you'd support moving these Europeans, who have been here a much shorter time, to their *true* homeland, Canada? Or would you prefer Europe?

The Native Americans have some self-rule in the reservations and there is no Native American independence movement in the world.

Most of the Palestinians WILL voluntarily move. The few who remain will be given citizenship.

Repeating something doesn't make it true.

The truth is the truth.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Jordan IS Palestine. Always has been, is and always will be Palestine. I live in reality. You should be ashamed of yourself.

So if Jordan is Palestine, how did all those Palestinians who've been evicted from their homes over the past century get there in the first place? Their families just got lost and accidentally settled in the future-State-of-Israel by mistake a thousand years ago, and foolishly continued to live on that land for centuries on end, blissfully unaware that it wasn't actually their home the whole time?

The Palestinians were Syrians who migrated into modern day Israel and Jordan. As per the 2 state solution, neither side gets 100% of Palestine.

[Fedeledland]

So if Jordan is Palestine, how did all those Palestinians who've been evicted from their homes over the past century get there in the first place? Their families just got lost and accidentally settled in the future-State-of-Israel by mistake a thousand years ago, and foolishly continued to live on that land for centuries on end, blissfully unaware that it wasn't actually their home the whole time?

The Palestinians were Syrians who migrated into modern day Israel and Jordan. As per the 2 state solution, neither side gets 100% of Palestine.

So if Palestinians are Syrian, how come that Palestine is Jordan?

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The Palestinians were Syrians who migrated into modern day Israel and Jordan. As per the 2 state solution, neither side gets 100% of Palestine.

So if Palestinians are Syrian, how come that Palestine is Jordan?

Because then the Likud regime conquers all the land and nicer potlimitomaha feels all warm inside.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Palestinians were Syrians who migrated into modern day Israel and Jordan. As per the 2 state solution, neither side gets 100% of Palestine.

So if Palestinians are Syrian, how come that Palestine is Jordan?

WERE, NOT ARE. They originally were Syrians who migrated into Israel and Jordan. They then produced their own language, cultrue etc so they are distinct from the groups around them.As [per the 2 state solution neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians get 100% of Palestine. The Jordan river is the best border

[Conserative Morality]

Saying that Jews are an ethnicity is like saying that Christians are an ethnicity or muslims are an ethnicity.

So Judaism is just a religion?

The Native Americans have some self-rule in the reservations and there is no Native American independence movement in the world.

I'm asking you a hypothetical. Would you, or would you not?

I already know the answer at this point since you've put so much effort into dodging the question.

The truth is the truth.

Put your money where your mouth is and back it up.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

The Jordan river is the best border

Except this has been proven time and time again to be false, as Jordan could not support the millions of extra people generated by a forced exodus of Palestinians. As TomKirk has pointed out, millions would most likely die of starvation.

That is clearly not the best border to have.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Saying that Jews are an ethnicity is like saying that Christians are an ethnicity or muslims are an ethnicity.

So Judaism is just a religion?

Yes.

The Native Americans have some self-rule in the reservations and there is no Native American independence movement in the world.

I'm asking you a hypothetical. Would you, or would you not?

I already know the answer at this point since you've put so much effort into dodging the question.

I honestly don't know whether I would support a Native American state.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Jordan river is the best border

Except this has been proven time and time again to be false, as Jordan could not support the millions of extra people generated by a forced exodus of Palestinians. As TomKirk has pointed out, millions would most likely die of starvation.

That is clearly not the best border to have.

Jordan has taken in 200,000 Syrians without an issue. Jordan isn't the desert that you think it is.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Except this has been proven time and time again to be false, as Jordan could not support the millions of extra people generated by a forced exodus of Palestinians. As TomKirk has pointed out, millions would most likely die of starvation.

That is clearly not the best border to have.

Jordan has taken in 200,000 Syrians without an issue. Jordan isn't the desert that you think it is.

For one thing, you're wrong. There are severe issues with the refugees.

For another, 200,000 =/= 2,400,000

For someone who makes snide remarks about others' mathematical ability, your inability to understand how 2,400,000 is 12 times bigger than 200,000 is remarkable.

How many countries would you honestly say could cope with their population being increased by 25%, with no increase in land area at the same time?

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Actually, NP, Jordan per capita lacks natural resources worse than almost any country in the world. Their economy mainly relies on foreign aid and educating their populace to seek skilled labor abroad and sending money back. I've written research papers on this issue, and again, you are making up shit out of thin air.

[DogDoo 7]

A. Of course we can.
B. Who cares about the international law?
C. My only worry about it is that the other countries in the world would stop buying our products and selling us with resources.
D. Who said? If someone is leading a country, HE IS the law.
E. That will be a threat to our existence.
F. Maybe it will.
G. Never! It will cause a HUGE demographic threat.
H. Because it will be a threat to Israel, and we have to get rid of the Bedouins somehow, they breed like Rabbits.

I invoke Poe's Law.

I would like dearly to agree with you except sadly his views are not uncommon to a significant minority of the population. The "Ashkenazi are the only real jews" is a bit out of left field, but I'm not so surprised. There is a lot of nationalism and ethnic superiority embedded in our ethos so some of them could easily run with it.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Jordan has taken in 200,000 Syrians without an issue. Jordan isn't the desert that you think it is.

For one thing, you're wrong. There are severe issues with the refugees.

For another, 200,000 =/= 2,400,000

For someone who makes snide remarks about others' mathematical ability, your inability to understand how 2,400,000 is 12 times bigger than 200,000 is remarkable.

How many countries would you honestly say could cope with their population being increased by 25%, with no increase in land area at the same time?

Those issues have to deal with Money and Healthcare. But there is plenty of food and water.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Jordan has taken in 200,000 Syrians without an issue. Jordan isn't the desert that you think it is.

For another, 200,000 =/= 2,400,000

For someone who makes snide remarks about others' mathematical ability, your inability to understand how 2,400,000 is 12 times bigger than 200,000 is remarkable.

Jordan has taken in 200,000 Syrians. Also how did you get to 2,400,000? Anyway 2.4 million Palestinians wouldn't overflow Jordan.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

For one thing, you're wrong. There are severe issues with the refugees.

For another, 200,000 =/= 2,400,000

For someone who makes snide remarks about others' mathematical ability, your inability to understand how 2,400,000 is 12 times bigger than 200,000 is remarkable.

How many countries would you honestly say could cope with their population being increased by 25%, with no increase in land area at the same time?

Those issues have to deal with Money and Healthcare. But there is plenty of food

Enough to feed 2.4 million extra people?

and water.

You're wrong.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

For another, 200,000 =/= 2,400,000

For someone who makes snide remarks about others' mathematical ability, your inability to understand how 2,400,000 is 12 times bigger than 200,000 is remarkable.

Jordan has taken in 200,000 Syrians.

It's had massive problems doing so.

Also how did you get to 2,400,000?

The population of the State of Palestine.

Anyway 2.4 million Palestinians wouldn't overflow Jordan.

You've said previously that the vast majority would leave Israel for Jordan. That implies that at least 2 million people moving to Jordan. That would be a population increase of about 33%. You haven't shown that Jordan could accommodate a population increase of 33%. You've also not refuted Page's statements.

[Conserative Morality]

Yes.

So everyone identifying as, say, a Jew and a Christian, or a Jew and an Atheist, is simply wrong?

[DogDoo 7]

For one thing, you're wrong. There are severe issues with the refugees.

For another, 200,000 =/= 2,400,000

For someone who makes snide remarks about others' mathematical ability, your inability to understand how 2,400,000 is 12 times bigger than 200,000 is remarkable.

How many countries would you honestly say could cope with their population being increased by 25%, with no increase in land area at the same time?

Those issues have to deal with Money and Healthcare. But there is plenty of food and water.

No, there isn't. Already half the country lives in Amman, because THE COUNTRY IS SHIT. Like really shit. Like it literally has nothing of anything (except for uranium, but the US is reluctant to let them mine it). Oh yeah, it is also basically a client state of the US (and Israel as well, but that one's a better kept secret).

Jordan imports basically all of its food now. It has much less water available to it than Israel, and we all know how precious water is here now. Jordan really is the shit piece of land between the oil and the sea that no one wanted.

[Menassa]

Yes.

So everyone identifying as, say, a Jew and a Christian, or a Jew and an Atheist, is simply wrong?

The Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים ISO 259-3 Yehudim Israeli pronunciation [jehuˈdim]), also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and an ethnoreligious group, originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Those issues have to deal with Money and Healthcare. But there is plenty of food

Enough to feed 2.4 million extra people?

and water.

You're wrong.

Your two points contradict each other. THe reason there is little water is because 2/3 of it is used for farming purposes.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Enough to feed 2.4 million extra people?



You're wrong.

Your two points contradict each other. THe reason there is little water is because 2/3 of it is used for farming purposes.

Which should make it phenomenally obvious that a country using 2/3 of its water to grow the food it needs to support its current population can't support a 33% population increase.

[Rainbows and Rivers]

Enough to feed 2.4 million extra people?



You're wrong.

Your two points contradict each other. THe reason there is little water is because 2/3 of it is used for farming purposes.

And what, you think that percentage would decrease if they had a sudden massive influx of immigrants? They wouldn't be able to feed everyone and they wouldn't be able to increase the amount of water used for farming, which would take away from the drinking water they already have too little of - never mind if they add 33% more people.