Israel-Palestine conflict

[Conserative Morality]

Yeah. So?

So the Native Americans should carve up the USA and push us into set areas in which we are constantly monitored by their military and treated as second class citizens, right?

[Saruhan]

While we're at it, let's give all of Greece back to the Ionians and kick out all the Dorian usurpers to wherever it is they came from.

Send the Germans back to Poland, and most western Europeans back to Germany, don't forget to send the Southern Italians back to Greece and the Slavs back to Russia and the Hungarians back to Ukraine though

[Xathranaar]

While we're at it, let's give all of Greece back to the Ionians and kick out all the Dorian usurpers to wherever it is they came from.

Time-Traveling, bilingual, monkey-mongers, most likely.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Yeah. So?

So the Native Americans should carve up the USA and push us into set areas in which we are constantly monitored by their military and treated as second class citizens, right?

It's the only fair way to finally solve the problem, if you will.

[Xathranaar]

While we're at it, let's give all of Greece back to the Ionians and kick out all the Dorian usurpers to wherever it is they came from.

Send the Germans back to Poland, and most western Europeans back to Germany, don't forget to send the Southern Italians back to Greece and the Slavs back to Russia and the Hungarians back to Ukraine though

I would love to see the whole of the Slavic peoples try to squeeze into the Pripet Marshes.

[EnragedMaldivians]

While we're at it, let's give all of Greece back to the Ionians and kick out all the Dorian usurpers to wherever it is they came from.

Time-Traveling, bilingual, monkey-mongers, most likely.

Wait, what do you just call me?

[Xathranaar]

Time-Traveling, bilingual, monkey-mongers, most likely.

Wait, what do you just call me?

An explorer?

[Conserative Morality]

It's the only fair way to finally solve the problem, if you will.

It will certainly put an end to many questions of an USAmerican nature.

[Saruhan]

Send the Germans back to Poland, and most western Europeans back to Germany, don't forget to send the Southern Italians back to Greece and the Slavs back to Russia and the Hungarians back to Ukraine though

I would love to see the whole of the Slavic peoples try to squeeze into the Pripet Marshes.

Oh! Forgot sending the English to the Netherlands and the Scottish to Ireland and Denmark!

[Xathranaar]

I would love to see the whole of the Slavic peoples try to squeeze into the Pripet Marshes.

Oh! Forgot sending the English to the Netherlands and the Scottish to Ireland and Denmark!

Oh gods, I don't want to even try and sort out the mess of the English...

"All right, you you and you, Denmark. You're going to Normandy. You and you, Ireland. And half of you, sir, are going to Norway, but the other half we're shipping to Bengal."

[Seangoli]

The whole idea of a 2 state solution depends on no group having control over 100% of Palestine. Unless you deny Israel's right to exist. Do you?

No I do not. Your two state solution however is to turn Jordan into Palestine. You're not even giving Palestinians some of Palestine. You're just relabelling Jordan and telling them to pack their bags and move over there.

Which is absolutely idiotic, and an extremely transparent ruse at best. Simply calling another country a different name is perhaps the most incredibly moronic way of solving the issue one could possibly think of. The people living in Palestinian lands right now would not accept such a ridiculous and insulting proposition as to be sent on a death march to a land they have absolutely no connection to and have no desire to live in, with a local population which is not thrilled to have the current refugee population present in the least. This is not even considering that Jordan is already having a hard enough time providing the current population with enough resources to survive. Add in 4 million more, practically all of whom would need to be violently forced out of Palestinian lands, and it would be a death sentence.

Frankly, this entire consideration is monstrously evil and horrifically disgusting, not to mention absolutely and totally insulting to the Palestinian people. It assumes, for some ungodly reason, that they would simply accept such idiocy and happily go to a place because some wanker relabeled a country "Palestine" thinking that people would actually accept this for no good reason whatsoever. The people who propose such lunacy quite obviously have an incredibly low opinion of the intelligence of the Palestinian people that it insults me to the very core. Call the Palestinians what you will, but they are hardly knuckle-walking idiots who will actually believe such an obvious load of crap, let alone agree to it.

[Seangoli]

While we're at it, let's give all of Greece back to the Ionians and kick out all the Dorian usurpers to wherever it is they came from.

And Italy to the Etruscans. Damn Romans kicked them out!

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The whole idea of a 2 state solution depends on no group having control over 100% of Palestine. Unless you deny Israel's right to exist. Do you?

No I do not. Your two state solution however is to turn Jordan into Palestine. You're not even giving Palestinians some of Palestine. You're just relabelling Jordan and telling them to pack their bags and move over there.

Millions of Palestinians already live there.I'm not saying that they should all move to Pakistan. And Jordan was relabeled Jordan after being called Palestine.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Oh! Forgot sending the English to the Netherlands and the Scottish to Ireland and Denmark!

Oh gods, I don't want to even try and sort out the mess of the English...

"All right, you you and you, Denmark. You're going to Normandy. You and you, Ireland. And half of you, sir, are going to Norway, but the other half we're shipping to Bengal."

Just save the time and money and send them all back to Sub-Saharan Africa, where humans originated.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Jews were devastated by the Diaspora. Sassanid? THe Arab invaders then took control until about a thousand years a go when the Palestinians took over what is today called Israel and Jordan.

Even assuming for a second that's true (it isn't), you don't find that having lived in the area for a thousand years makes them the rightful owners?

The Palestinians have a right to some of Palestine.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Yeah. So?

So the Native Americans should carve up the USA and push us into set areas in which we are constantly monitored by their military and treated as second class citizens, right?

1. The Native Americans are almost extinct due to mixing and Americanization.
2.No Native American group is demanding their own country
3. No one is saying there should be Apartheid against the Palestinians, the Jordan=Palestine theory is designed top prevent that exact senario.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Jews were devastated by the Diaspora. Sassanid? THe Arab invaders then took control until about a thousand years a go when the Palestinians took over what is today called Israel and Jordan.

Also, how is it you think you are qualified to discuss the subject, when you don't even know about the fucking Persian Empire? Or, apparently, the Arab Invasion that felled it and the whole region?

I don't even care to argue with you over your obscene opinion on Israel and Palestine, I just cannot stand how constantly wrong you are regarding basic history.

What happened with the Persian Empire? The Persians had freedom of religion and much self governance for its subjects. The Arab invasion happened about 8th century. The Arabs were gone by the Renassainse of the 16th century.

[The Nuclear Fist]

And Jordan was relabeled Jordan after being called Palestine.

You know what else was called Palestine? Modern day Israel.

[The Nuclear Fist]

the Jordan=Palestine theory is designed top prevent that exact senario.

So you're going to prevent apartheid by ethnic cleansing?

Eep.

[Conserative Morality]

1. The Native Americans are almost extinct due to mixing and Americanization.

Hardly.

2.No Native American group is demanding their own country

And if they were? Would you support it, with the scenario I outlined above? What if their descendants from other countries came in and demanded such a scenario to occur?

3. No one is saying there should be Apartheid against the Palestinians, the Jordan=Palestine theory is designed top prevent that exact senario.

Trail of Tears, fuck yeah.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

And Jordan was relabeled Jordan after being called Palestine.

You know what else was called Palestine? Modern day Israel.

Yes. But the whole idea of the 2 state solution is that neither side gets 100% of Palestine.

[Scholencia]

No I do not. Your two state solution however is to turn Jordan into Palestine. You're not even giving Palestinians some of Palestine. You're just relabelling Jordan and telling them to pack their bags and move over there.

Millions of Palestinians already live there.I'm not saying that they should all move to Pakistan. And Jordan was relabeled Jordan after being called Palestine.

It is worthless, you can not convince people in something if they really stand something for. Even if Israel would suddenl recognise Palestina, Israel will always be the black sheep.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

the Jordan=Palestine theory is designed top prevent that exact senario.

So you're going to prevent apartheid by ethnic cleansing?

Eep.

NO ONE is calling for ethnic genocide. You are being a strawman and an outragous one at that.

[The Nuclear Fist]

You know what else was called Palestine? Modern day Israel.

Yes. But the whole idea of the 2 state solution is that neither side gets 100% of Palestine.

Yes, they both get a part of Palestine. Jordan, however, being neither Palestine or Israel, has nothing to do with it. The most obvious choice is to hand over the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinian Authority as the State of Palestine. Perhaps give a bit of land to connect the two, but it isn't really necessary.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

1. The Native Americans are almost extinct due to mixing and Americanization.

Hardly.

Eh. It's hard finding a pure blooded Native American or even one who knows the Native language today.

2.No Native American group is demanding their own country

And if they were? Would you support it, with the scenario I outlined above? What if their descendants from other countries came in and demanded such a scenario to occur?

THe Native Americans wouldn't do that. It is a moot point.

3. No one is saying there should be Apartheid against the Palestinians, the Jordan=Palestine theory is designed top prevent that exact senario.

Trail of Tears, fuck yeah.

When the Palestine is freed from the Heshemites most palestinians would voluntarily move. THe few who remain will be given citizenship.