Israel-Palestine conflict

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Palestinians aren't the native residents. They've only migrated into Israel and Jordan in the last 1000 years at max.

Neither are the Jews

Yeah but the Jews are the oldest group that still exist.

[Conserative Morality]

Typo. I meant to say 5000 years area.

Right. You're an American, right?

[Xathranaar]

They weren't gradually exiled. They were culturally assimilated. If they were exiled we would have records of them settling in other places, evidence of their cultural influence. We do not.

The most insanely false thing i've heard in a while. How do you think the Jews ended up in Germany and Russia and Poland?

Because the Romans exiled a bunch of them a thousand years before the time you think they were all kicked out.

Or are you just not following your own conversation?

[New England and The Maritimes]

So I have a question: Where did the palastinians come from in the first place?

From the ocean floor like the rest of life on Earth. Or possibly from a passing meteor, it's not a 100% certainty type of thing.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The Palestinians have a right to some of Palestine. The Jordan river is the fair, safe, and excellent border between Israel and Palestine.

Again, no irony whatsoever. Amazing.

The whole idea of a 2 state solution depends on no group having control over 100% of Palestine. Unless you deny Israel's right to exist. Do you?

[Saruhan]

Neither are the Jews

Yeah but the Jews are the oldest group that still exist.

Why don't the Philistines get a state then?

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

The most insanely false thing i've heard in a while. How do you think the Jews ended up in Germany and Russia and Poland?

Because the Romans exiled a bunch of them a thousand years before the time you think they were all kicked out.

Or are you just not following your own conversation?

Most Jews were kicked out in 70 A.D. But there has always been a Jewish population in Israel for the past thousands of years.

[Xathranaar]

Neither are the Jews

Yeah but the Jews are the oldest group that still exist.

Modern Turks are genetically Hittite, and Egypt once ruled those lands also.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Typo. I meant to say 5000 years area.

Right. You're an American, right?

Yeah. So?

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Yeah but the Jews are the oldest group that still exist.

Why don't the Philistines get a state then?

They still exist?

[Xathranaar]

Because the Romans exiled a bunch of them a thousand years before the time you think they were all kicked out.

Or are you just not following your own conversation?

Most Jews were kicked out in 70 A.D. But there has always been a Jewish population in Israel for the past thousands of years.

Yeah, but you seem to think that they were the only people living there 1200 years ago, which is false and also stupid.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Yeah but the Jews are the oldest group that still exist.

Modern Turks are genetically Hittite, and Egypt once ruled those lands also.

Modern Turks have Turkey. And the Egyptians have Egypt.

[Xathranaar]

Why don't the Philistines get a state then?

They still exist?

Greeks? Yes.

[Saruhan]

Why don't the Philistines get a state then?

They still exist?

Yeah

[Czechanada]

They still exist?

Yeah

All four of them?

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

Most Jews were kicked out in 70 A.D. But there has always been a Jewish population in Israel for the past thousands of years.

Yeah, but you seem to think that they were the only people living there 1200 years ago, which is false and also stupid.

Never said that. The Jews though remained a powerful group within the area up until the Palestinian invasion.

[Nicer potlimitomaha]

They still exist?

Greeks? Yes.

The Greeks have Greece

[EnragedMaldivians]

Again, no irony whatsoever. Amazing.

The whole idea of a 2 state solution depends on no group having control over 100% of Palestine. Unless you deny Israel's right to exist. Do you?

No I do not. Your two state solution however is to turn Jordan into Palestine. You're not even giving Palestinians some of Palestine. You're just relabelling Jordan and telling them to pack their bags and move over there.

[Xathranaar]

Modern Turks are genetically Hittite, and Egypt once ruled those lands also.

Modern Turks have Turkey. And the Egyptians have Egypt.

Which is a moot point. They have a claim. A perfectly valid one.

[Czechanada]

Modern Turks have Turkey. And the Egyptians have Egypt.

Which is a moot point. They have a claim. A perfectly valid one.

Too much Crusader Kings II for you, I see!

[Xathranaar]

Greeks? Yes.

The Greeks have Greece

Yeah, because fuck you Cypriots!

[Rainbows and Rivers]

The Jews were devastated by the Diaspora. Sassanid? THe Arab invaders then took control until about a thousand years a go when the Palestinians took over what is today called Israel and Jordan.

Even assuming for a second that's true (it isn't), you don't find that having lived in the area for a thousand years makes them the rightful owners?

[Xathranaar]

Which is a moot point. They have a claim. A perfectly valid one.

Too much Crusader Kings II for you, I see!

I was thinking more Ramses and Suppiluliumas.

[Xathranaar]

What the actual fuck?

So you think that Jews, and only the Jews, were all just happily living there after the Roman Diaspora, survived unscathed and unmingled by Sassanid occupation, and untouched through the Arab invasion, only to be kicked out entirely just before the Crusades, without leaving any historical record of this event?

The Jews were devastated by the Diaspora. Sassanid? THe Arab invaders then took control until about a thousand years a go when the Palestinians took over what is today called Israel and Jordan.

Also, how is it you think you are qualified to discuss the subject, when you don't even know about the fucking Persian Empire? Or, apparently, the Arab Invasion that felled it and the whole region?

I don't even care to argue with you over your obscene opinion on Israel and Palestine, I just cannot stand how constantly wrong you are regarding basic history.

[EnragedMaldivians]

While we're at it, let's give all of Greece back to the Ionians and kick out all the Dorian usurpers to wherever it is they came from.