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Postby Harvac » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:51 pm

Laerod wrote:
Harvac wrote:So reports of people who are even more suicidal or have more violent thoughts when they're on medication is just a coincidence?
I think perhaps these medications may one day lead to good things by making people feel better, but they are still so new, and maybe it's just my opinion but I don't think its wise to just hand out these drugs when they aren't as good as they could be

Is there any concrete and reliable evidence supporting anything you just said?

That the drugs lead to suicide?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/court-award ... icide.html
or that they are still too new for me to trust? because I believe they became available around the 1950s. And for something that alters the state of the brain, I don't trust those few years of study

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Postby Oneracon » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:52 pm

Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care. I believe that 911, Kennedy's assassination, and Sandy Hook are all conspiracies. 911 was a government conspiracy to declare war on Iran and Sandy Hook was a conspiracy to declare on the constitution. Sandy Hook was staged so the government could take away our second amendment. This has two outcomes. First no one has the balls to revolt and the government now has the ability to do whatever they like to us or we all revolt, lose horribly, and get thrown in FEMA concentration camps. Now you may say "what the hell are you talking about FEMA helps people." Well FEMA has large camps all over the country dedicated to nothing. Nothing bad is happening around these camps. Once the revolt happens these camps will be used a prisons. Very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. I mean come on, they always show up at times when nobody would dare call conspiracy and they always seem underfunded though they get massive donations. Where do you think this money is really going to.


But for any of those to work, you have to put forward the notion that the US government has the resources, efficiency, and collective intelligence to flawlessly execute such a complex plan.

That, I find, is where these conspiracy theories fall apart.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:53 pm

Harvac wrote:
Laerod wrote:Is there any concrete and reliable evidence supporting anything you just said?

That the drugs lead to suicide?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/court-award ... icide.html
or that they are still too new for me to trust? because I believe they became available around the 1950s. And for something that alters the state of the brain, I don't trust those few years of study

Yeah, Alex Jones? Not reliable. Wrong way too often.

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Postby Lesbia » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:54 pm

9/11 was to declare war on Iran eh? Funny, because that never happened.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:55 pm

Lesbia wrote:9/11 was to declare war on Iran eh? Funny, because that never happened.

Typical of the government.
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:57 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Lesbia wrote:9/11 was to declare war on Iran eh? Funny, because that never happened.

Typical of the government.

Wasting taxpayer dollars on a massive secret conspiracy then not even going through with the final part
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Postby Unified Provinces » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:58 pm

Lesbia wrote:9/11 was to declare war on Iran eh? Funny, because that never happened.


Yeah. It was used as an excuse to declare war on Iraq. They just don't teach geography anymore, do they?
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Postby Harvac » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:58 pm

Laerod wrote:
Harvac wrote:That the drugs lead to suicide?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/court-award ... icide.html
or that they are still too new for me to trust? because I believe they became available around the 1950s. And for something that alters the state of the brain, I don't trust those few years of study

Yeah, Alex Jones? Not reliable. Wrong way too often.

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http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/schoo ... ngs-drugs/
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Postby Europe and Asia » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:58 pm

Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care. I believe that 911, Kennedy's assassination, and Sandy Hook are all conspiracies. 911 was a government conspiracy to declare war on Iran and Sandy Hook was a conspiracy to declare on the constitution. Sandy Hook was staged so the government could take away our second amendment. This has two outcomes. First no one has the balls to revolt and the government now has the ability to do whatever they like to us or we all revolt, lose horribly, and get thrown in FEMA concentration camps. Now you may say "what the hell are you talking about FEMA helps people." Well FEMA has large camps all over the country dedicated to nothing. Nothing bad is happening around these camps. Once the revolt happens these camps will be used a prisons. Very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. I mean come on, they always show up at times when nobody would dare call conspiracy and they always seem underfunded though they get massive donations. Where do you think this money is really going to.


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Postby Typhlochactas » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:01 pm

Unified Provinces wrote:
Lesbia wrote:9/11 was to declare war on Iran eh? Funny, because that never happened.


Yeah. It was used as an excuse to declare war on Iraq. They just don't teach geography anymore, do they?


Other than one case from Dick Cheney, they never actually tried to link Iraq with 9/11.

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Postby The United Thingys » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:01 pm

Laerod wrote:
Harvac wrote:So reports of people who are even more suicidal or have more violent thoughts when they're on medication is just a coincidence?
I think perhaps these medications may one day lead to good things by making people feel better, but they are still so new, and maybe it's just my opinion but I don't think its wise to just hand out these drugs when they aren't as good as they could be

Is there any concrete and reliable evidence supporting anything you just said?


As someone who is on mind-altering drugs and the child of someone who has been on drugs to prevent depression and suicide, I say that these drugs improve and save more lives than they destroy. It's still horrible that these drugs don't have a 100% effectiveness rate, and may possibly cause more rage and destruction, but that doesn't cancel out the good they do. How many people would have been killers but aren't because of the drugs? Always remember to look at both sides.

Please note I have no source besides hearsay and my own experience for this.
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That is literally a compendium of unreliable sources.
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Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care.



No on'e going to hate because of this. It's just NS isn't an Alex Jones lovefest area.
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Hey I thought we have the same thread like this, that was locked?
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:04 pm

conspiracy by whom to accomplish what? 9-11 scared a lot of people into willingly throwing away some of their freedoms and civil rights. there was a political machine, the leadership of corporate crime, that gained by that.

i don't see anything of the sort with sandy hook, or any of the more then 900 needless deaths by gun violence that have happened in the united states, in the ever so brief period since then.

there are certainly networked efforts, to discredit and spin the seriousness of the problem.

it is always possible, that there are conspiracies involved in everything and anything, but specifically, sandy hook, i don't see it.
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Postby Aardenland » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:04 pm

Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care. I believe that 911, Kennedy's assassination, and Sandy Hook are all conspiracies. 911 was a government conspiracy to declare war on Iran and Sandy Hook was a conspiracy to declare on the constitution. Sandy Hook was staged so the government could take away our second amendment. This has two outcomes. First no one has the balls to revolt and the government now has the ability to do whatever they like to us or we all revolt, lose horribly, and get thrown in FEMA concentration camps. Now you may say "what the hell are you talking about FEMA helps people." Well FEMA has large camps all over the country dedicated to nothing. Nothing bad is happening around these camps. Once the revolt happens these camps will be used a prisons. Very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. I mean come on, they always show up at times when nobody would dare call conspiracy and they always seem underfunded though they get massive donations. Where do you think this money is really going to.


Yeah, because obviously:

Background Checks and Assault Weapons Ban =

NO GUNS FOR ANYONE!

Any event that proves the point of having gun restrictions =

A CONSPIRACY!

And someone with such a flawed argument as this is probably...

A STRAWMAN!

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Postby Nazis in Space » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:05 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:
Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care. I believe that 911, Kennedy's assassination, and Sandy Hook are all conspiracies. 911 was a government conspiracy to declare war on Iran and Sandy Hook was a conspiracy to declare on the constitution. Sandy Hook was staged so the government could take away our second amendment. This has two outcomes. First no one has the balls to revolt and the government now has the ability to do whatever they like to us or we all revolt, lose horribly, and get thrown in FEMA concentration camps. Now you may say "what the hell are you talking about FEMA helps people." Well FEMA has large camps all over the country dedicated to nothing. Nothing bad is happening around these camps. Once the revolt happens these camps will be used a prisons. Very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. I mean come on, they always show up at times when nobody would dare call conspiracy and they always seem underfunded though they get massive donations. Where do you think this money is really going to.


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So you would consider a reliable source to be...? Maybe if the FDA made a report? Oh wait, they would lose all their kickbacks, wouldnt they?
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Aardenland wrote:
Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care. I believe that 911, Kennedy's assassination, and Sandy Hook are all conspiracies. 911 was a government conspiracy to declare war on Iran and Sandy Hook was a conspiracy to declare on the constitution. Sandy Hook was staged so the government could take away our second amendment. This has two outcomes. First no one has the balls to revolt and the government now has the ability to do whatever they like to us or we all revolt, lose horribly, and get thrown in FEMA concentration camps. Now you may say "what the hell are you talking about FEMA helps people." Well FEMA has large camps all over the country dedicated to nothing. Nothing bad is happening around these camps. Once the revolt happens these camps will be used a prisons. Very similar to what happened in Nazi Germany. I mean come on, they always show up at times when nobody would dare call conspiracy and they always seem underfunded though they get massive donations. Where do you think this money is really going to.


Yeah, because obviously:

Background Checks and Assault Weapons Ban =

NO GUNS FOR ANYONE!

Any event that proves the point of having gun restrictions =

A CONSPIRACY!

And someone with such a flawed argument as this is probably...

A STRAWMAN!

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Grand Britannia wrote:The Communist Zionist Jewnazi Lizards are at it again...



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Postby Cameroi » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:07 pm

Minarchist States Of Equality wrote:Chances are everyone is going to hate me for this post but i don't care. ... Where do you think this money is really going to.


the westburough baptist church?
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