Michael Savage

[SaintB]

Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.

did you...um...did you even read what I wrote?

No, really, I'm being serious. You didn't, did you?

I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.

So your defense of Michael Savage is...he doesn't really mean it?

Neither did the people who followed Charles Manson.

[Neo Art]

Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".

...which is exactly why Neo and others have been arguing that Savage's education doesn't make him an authority on anything (except botany, apparently).

Too many times people don't read posts and say the same things over and over with increasing nonsense.

No, I'm not saying that at all Rydan. I'm saying that this man:



Held several advanced degrees, and must obviously, therefore, be someone whose world view you should listen to. In fact, many who knew him called him a real angel

[Neo Art]

I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.

So your defense of Michael Savage is...he doesn't really mean it?

Neither did the people who followed Charles Manson.

"OK, sure, I WROTE "pig" with the blood of the pregnant woman I just murdered, but what I MEANT was...."

[F1-Insanity]

Illegal immigrants in most part pay more into the tax system and commercial market than they ever take back.

No they do not.

There's a reason so many hospitals in states bordering Mexico are in such a bad financial mess. And that reason starts with 'illegal' and ends with 'immigrant'.

I live in a town with a lot of illegal immigrants, and yet we have great hospitals here. And besides, correlation doesn't prove causation.

Enforce the law, deport illegals. Living + working in USA is not an automatic right for everyone who manages to cross the border.

Not enforcing immigration law = treason. Your town's law 'enforcement' folks have a lot to explain.

[New Ziedrich]

I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.

Thing is, the crazy things only serve to hurt the "real" message, since the crazy stuff is going to alienate people and cause them to mss the "real" message.

[Peddieville]

Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".

Example, please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill

You gave me an example of a guy who few people listened too, who's research practices were looked into by his university, and who was fired for research misconduct. Did you mean to do this?

[Peddieville]

Illegal immigrants in most part pay more into the tax system and commercial market than they ever take back.

No they do not.

There's a reason so many hospitals in states bordering Mexico are in such a bad financial mess. And that reason starts with 'illegal' and ends with 'immigrant'.

I live in a town with a lot of illegal immigrants, and yet we have great hospitals here. And besides, correlation doesn't prove causation.

Enforce the law, deport illegals. Living + working in USA is not an automatic right for everyone who manages to cross the border.

Not enforcing immigration law = treason. Your town's law 'enforcement' folks have a lot to explain.

That's one huge strawman your burning. Not only does this have nothing to do with Micheal Savage, it doesn't even address my argument.

[Neo Art]

That's one huge strawman your burning. Not only does this have nothing to do with Micheal Savage, it doesn't even address my argument.

As I noted, it's interesting when these threads come out, to get to see the true caliber of the intellectual fortitude of people that would follow this man.

As I said, birds of a feather...

[Ryadn]

Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".

...which is exactly why Neo and others have been arguing that Savage's education doesn't make him an authority on anything (except botany, apparently).

Too many times people don't read posts and say the same things over and over with increasing nonsense.

No, I'm not saying that at all Rydan. I'm saying that this man:



Held several advanced degrees, and must obviously, therefore, be someone whose world view you should listen to. In fact, many who knew him called him a real angel

You're a sick, twisted man for making me laugh.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.

did you...um...did you even read what I wrote?

No, really, I'm being serious. You didn't, did you?

I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.

So your defense of Michael Savage is...he doesn't really mean it?

Did Rev Wright mean it? Does Al Sharpton mean it? Does Ann Coulter mean it? Does Don Imus mean it? Does HOWARD STERN mean it.

Look, no one will hear your message if no one is listening. No one listens unless you give them something to listen to.

[Ryadn]

Illegal immigrants in most part pay more into the tax system and commercial market than they ever take back.

No they do not.

There's a reason so many hospitals in states bordering Mexico are in such a bad financial mess. And that reason starts with 'illegal' and ends with 'immigrant'.

I live in a town with a lot of illegal immigrants, and yet we have great hospitals here. And besides, correlation doesn't prove causation.

Enforce the law, deport illegals. Living + working in USA is not an automatic right for everyone who manages to cross the border.

Not enforcing immigration law = treason. Your town's law 'enforcement' folks have a lot to explain.

Treason? Well, that's a new one, at least.

It's possible the law enforcement in his/her town is busy doing something fairly important, like catching rapists and investigating murders.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Glenn Beck is the same way. He puts on a good show. The show is what people watch. He then slips in his message while you are busy being entertained.

Why do we watch NASCAR?

[Ryadn]

Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.

did you...um...did you even read what I wrote?

No, really, I'm being serious. You didn't, did you?

I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.

So your defense of Michael Savage is...he doesn't really mean it?

Did Rev Wright mean it? Does Al Sharpton mean it? Does Ann Coulter mean it? Does Don Imus mean it? Does HOWARD STERN mean it.

Look, no one will hear your message if no one is listening. No one listens unless you give them something to listen to.

All due respect, the good Rev. King would like to disagree.

So would Gandhi. So would Susan B. Anthony. So would the Beatles.

If no one's listening, you just might not be worth listening to.

In fact, I'm turning the volume off right now.

[Peddieville]

Glenn Beck is the same way. He puts on a good show. The show is what people watch. He then slips in his message while you are busy being entertained.

And the problem is his message is racist, homophobic, etc.

[New Ziedrich]

Did Rev Wright mean it? Does Al Sharpton mean it? Does Ann Coulter mean it? Does Don Imus mean it? Does HOWARD STERN mean it.

Look, no one will hear your message if no one is listening. No one listens unless you give them something to listen to.

I don't take those people seriously either. You can get people to hear you by shocking them, but they're probably not going to listen to you. Hearing and listening are related, but quite different.

[Parthenon]

This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.

And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?

Michael has never advocated violence, your comment is libelous at best. I suggest you watch your posting.

[Neo Art]

This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.

And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?

Michael has never advocated violence, your comment is libelous at best. I suggest you watch your posting.

Or....what? Michael Savage will report her?

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Glenn Beck is the same way. He puts on a good show. The show is what people watch. He then slips in his message while you are busy being entertained.

And the problem is his message is racist, homophobic, etc.

That is your opinion. I say he is pushing the Conservative Independant ideology to which I subscribe.

[Parthenon]

This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.

And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?

Michael has never advocated violence, your comment is libelous at best. I suggest you watch your posting.

Or....what? Michael Savage will report her?

Guess you don't listen to his show. He has publicly stated in recent weeks that he will file charges against any and all such claims as he has done in combating the British Home Office. Hell, he already has the legal defense fund started. http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=134

[Ifreann]

I think Savage is a pretty cool guy. eh causes fights on NSG and doesn't afraid of anything.




Also, I know basically nothing about the man. Doesn't sound terribly pleasant.

[Peddieville]

Glenn Beck is the same way. He puts on a good show. The show is what people watch. He then slips in his message while you are busy being entertained.

And the problem is his message is racist, homophobic, etc.

That is your opinion. I say he is pushing the Conservative Independant ideology to which I subscribe.

What part of

"Oh, so you're one of those sodomites. You should only get Aids and die, you pig; how's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig? You got nothing better to do than to put me down, you piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage, and choke on it."

isn't homophobic?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... ired_x.htm

[Mad hatters in jeans]

This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.

And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?

Michael has never advocated violence, your comment is libelous at best. I suggest you watch your posting.

Or....what? Michael Savage will report her?

Guess you don't listen to his show. He has publicly stated in recent weeks that he will file charges against any and all such claims as he has done in combating the British Home Office. Hell, he already has the legal defense fund started.

are you michael savage?

[Peddieville]

Guess you don't listen to his show. He has publicly stated in recent weeks that he will file charges against any and all such claims as he has done in combating the British Home Office. Hell, he already has the legal defense fund started.

are you michael savage?

I wouldn't be surprised. They do have similar view points.

[Unchecked Expansion]

I'm glad he isn't welcome here in England. From all I've heard of him, he's pretty hateful, and the home office is well within their rights to exclude him from entry. After all, entering the country isn't a right

[Neo Art]

Guess you don't listen to his show. He has publicly stated in recent weeks that he will file charges against any and all such claims as he has done in combating the British Home Office. Hell, he already has the legal defense fund started. http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=134

I'm sure Rydan is utterly shaken in her shoes. Some radio jackass said he'll sue people. Oh no! Whatever shall we do? It would be horrible if someone said something like...

Michael Savage is a paedophile

That would be horrible, wouldn't it? But I don't know, maybe it's not explicit enough. Maybe....

Michael Savage rapes babies.

That would REALLY get someone in trouble wouldn't it? Oh, I don't know...it's still kind of vague. How about...

Michael Savage rapes babies. No really, he does. Radio personality Michael Savage has been known, on more than one occassion, to brutally and violently rape young children in the back of a van. He kidnaps them from the street, drives to a secret location, and rapes them.

Oh no, I hope Michael Savage doesn't get me in trouble!