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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:28 pm

Neo Art wrote:
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And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?


as I said, this man was exceptionally well educated


So is BHO... your point is?


You....you really need to ask?

Like, seriously? You really need it explained to you?


Yeah, some are saying that because someone is educated, they cant be crazy ideologues. You have your ideologues, I have mine.
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:28 pm

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Tekania wrote:Well, since Michael Savage is a Jew, Nazi would not necessarily be an appropriate label for him... Neither he nor his listeners are Christian either.


Some are Christians. Hasty generalizations are bad mmmmkay.


Trollish troll is troll-like, mmtroll?
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:30 pm

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Tyrrin wrote:I have listened to his show. The majority of the time, he doesn't say offensive things. He is definitely biased, but he isn't a downright evil person. I think that is what others have been trying to say. The majority of his comments are logical, just sometimes I think emotion gets the better of him and he says things that he shouldn't say. He does have a lot of radical ideas that I don't agree with, which is why I don't listen too him any more. I just liked to hear things from the other side of the arguement sometimes. His wikipedia page is quite biased against him, so don't look at that for your first impression of him.


Yeah, he speaks his mind until someone trolls him and baits him into going ape. He is an entertainer as much as he is a political commentator. Hmmm, I feel for him. I really do.


Just like most serial killers are nice people until someone trolls them and baits them into raping and killing.

I wish people wouldn't do that, don't you?
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Postby Peddieville » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:30 pm

Chetssaland wrote:Yep, he's an evil meanie dictator! Wahhhhh! He get's mad/emotional but that doesn't make him a violent, hateful, evil, meanie dictator like a lot of you are saying. If you wrote down what he said, a lot of the things he says would make more sense than listening to him yell it at you.

The bigoted things he says are wrong and hateful whether he screams them or says them nicely.
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:31 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
Parthenon wrote:This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.


And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?


as I said, this man was exceptionally well educated


So is BHO... your point is?
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That the argument "he is right about stuff because he's educated" is an incredibly silly one to make?
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:31 pm

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Tyrrin wrote:I have listened to his show. The majority of the time, he doesn't say offensive things. He is definitely biased, but he isn't a downright evil person. I think that is what others have been trying to say. The majority of his comments are logical, just sometimes I think emotion gets the better of him and he says things that he shouldn't say. He does have a lot of radical ideas that I don't agree with, which is why I don't listen too him any more. I just liked to hear things from the other side of the arguement sometimes. His wikipedia page is quite biased against him, so don't look at that for your first impression of him.


Yeah, he speaks his mind until someone trolls him and baits him into going ape. He is an entertainer as much as he is a political commentator. Hmmm, I feel for him. I really do.


Just like most serial killers are nice people until someone trolls them and baits them into raping and killing.

I wish people wouldn't do that, don't you?


But in this case, who are the trolls and who are the killers? Layers, donkey, they have layers.
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Postby New Ziedrich » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:32 pm

So some people agree with some of the stuff Savage says. Wouldn't it be better to align oneself with a guy who holds similar views, but without all the divisive hatred and such? I generally hold some typically "conservative" views, but I would never affiliate with Savage.
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Postby F1-Insanity » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:32 pm

Ryadn wrote:Illegal immigrants in most part pay more into the tax system and commercial market than they ever take back.


No they do not.

There's a reason so many hospitals in states bordering Mexico are in such a bad financial mess. And that reason starts with 'illegal' and ends with 'immigrant'.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:33 pm

Micheal Savage is high on m list of people to ignore and to dissuade others from paying attention too. Fortunately he is loosing most of his sponsors, along with Bill O'Reilly and might not be around for long (here's hoping).
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:33 pm

Ryadn wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
Parthenon wrote:This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.


And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?


as I said, this man was exceptionally well educated


So is BHO... your point is?
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That the argument "he is right about stuff because he's educated" is an incredibly silly one to make?


Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.
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Postby Neo Art » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:34 pm

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Yep, he's an evil meanie dictator! Wahhhhh! He get's mad/emotional but that doesn't make him a violent, hateful, evil, meanie dictator like a lot of you are saying. If you wrote down what he said, a lot of the things he says would make more sense than listening to him yell it at you.


Oh? We should write down things he's said? Well...ok...

I want to puke when I hear about a woman married to a woman raising children because, frankly, I think that it's child abuse to do that to children without their permission

And I think there should be no mercy shown to these sub-humans. I believe that a thousand of them should be killed tomorrow. I think a thousand of them held in the Iraqi prison should be given 24 hour -- a trial and executed. I think they need to be shown that we are not going to roll over to them. It won't happen. It won't happen because of the CBS Communists. It won't happen because of the CNN traitors. I won't happen because of the MSNBC empty heads. And we the people are the ones who are going to suffer today.

California, unfortunately, is in the hands of the far-left homosexual mafia.

The White male is like the stingray: You keep hunting him down, you're going to wind up with a barb in your chest. They haven't seen the White male. They don't understand the White male dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. They don't remember what the White male is capable of because he's been awfully subdued for a long period of time. But if push comes to shove, I can guarantee you all the turbanned folks are going to find out all over again just how vicious the White male can really be. They keep provoking this nation, they're going to wind up with a mushroom cloud over their country.



....yeah, you're right, when you write it down, his beliefs are ABUNDANTLY clear.
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Postby Peddieville » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:34 pm

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Ryadn wrote:Illegal immigrants in most part pay more into the tax system and commercial market than they ever take back.


No they do not.

There's a reason so many hospitals in states bordering Mexico are in such a bad financial mess. And that reason starts with 'illegal' and ends with 'immigrant'.

I live in a town with a lot of illegal immigrants, and yet we have great hospitals here. And besides, correlation doesn't prove causation.
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Postby Neo Art » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:34 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.


did you...um...did you even read what I wrote?

No, really, I'm being serious. You didn't, did you?
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:35 pm

Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:35 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
Parthenon wrote:This thread is terrible. I can say without a shadow of a doubt a good 75+% of you have never listened to a complete savage nation show and are just going off of wikipedia/youtube to make your comments. Dr. Savage is an accomplished author, commentator, businessman, and scientist holding an earned PHD from Berkley and two masters degrees.


And I should care... why? Hateful violence-mongers can't be well educated?


Yep, he's an evil meanie dictator! Wahhhhh! He get's mad/emotional but that doesn't make him a violent, hateful, evil, meanie dictator like a lot of you are saying. If you wrote down what he said, a lot of the things he says would make more sense than listening to him yell it at you.


"Oh, so you're one of those sodomites. You should only get Aids and die, you pig; how's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig? You got nothing better to do than to put me down, you piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage, and choke on it."

"The gay and lesbian mafia wants our children. If it can win their souls and their minds, it knows their bodies will follow. Of course, it wants to homosexualise the whole country, not just the children. This is all part of the war that is going on. Maybe you don't want to face up to it, but it's a very real war. It's being inflicted on the American people by the radical gay lobby, which is now everywhere"

Muslims "need deportation"

You're right, that all looks MUCH more reasonable in print.
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Postby Neo Art » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:36 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Yeah, some are saying that because someone is educated, they cant be crazy ideologues.


Yes, some are, I suppose. I'm not. Which makes me wonder why you directed this little "refutation" of yours at me. Which leads me only to conclude you can't really read.
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:36 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
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Chetssaland wrote:I love his show. He's waaaaay extreme, but he gives us conservatives what we want to hear. Conservative radio is just entertainment and liberal radio is just entertainment. You know, no one takes MSNBC or FOX seriously. It's not right that he's banned from Britian though. Overall, I like him.

And his illegal immigrant comments are true. I'm not rascist, but yeah, they're coming in and mooching and the government is doing nothing.


If you want to listen to racist, small-minded rhetoric, you can google a few of Hitler's speeches without much effort.

Illegal immigrants in most part pay more into the tax system and commercial market than they ever take back. Read a fucking book.

Open your fucking eyes. And listen to his fucking show. At least if you want to call him a racist, and small minded and all the other stuff.


What insightful and well-reasoned argument. I feel almost as if I'm listening to his show right now!
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Postby Peddieville » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:36 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".

Example, please?
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:37 pm

Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.


did you...um...did you even read what I wrote?

No, really, I'm being serious. You didn't, did you?


I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:37 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
Yep, he's an evil meanie dictator! Wahhhhh! He get's mad/emotional but that doesn't make him a violent, hateful, evil, meanie dictator like a lot of you are saying. If you wrote down what he said, a lot of the things he says would make more sense than listening to him yell it at you.


Oh? We should write down things he's said? Well...ok...

I want to puke when I hear about a woman married to a woman raising children because, frankly, I think that it's child abuse to do that to children without their permission

And I think there should be no mercy shown to these sub-humans. I believe that a thousand of them should be killed tomorrow. I think a thousand of them held in the Iraqi prison should be given 24 hour -- a trial and executed. I think they need to be shown that we are not going to roll over to them. It won't happen. It won't happen because of the CBS Communists. It won't happen because of the CNN traitors. I won't happen because of the MSNBC empty heads. And we the people are the ones who are going to suffer today.

California, unfortunately, is in the hands of the far-left homosexual mafia.

The White male is like the stingray: You keep hunting him down, you're going to wind up with a barb in your chest. They haven't seen the White male. They don't understand the White male dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. They don't remember what the White male is capable of because he's been awfully subdued for a long period of time. But if push comes to shove, I can guarantee you all the turbanned folks are going to find out all over again just how vicious the White male can really be. They keep provoking this nation, they're going to wind up with a mushroom cloud over their country.



....yeah, you're right, when you write it down, his beliefs are ABUNDANTLY clear.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:37 pm

New Ziedrich wrote:So some people agree with some of the stuff Savage says. Wouldn't it be better to align oneself with a guy who holds similar views, but without all the divisive hatred and such? I generally hold some typically "conservative" views, but I would never affiliate with Savage.

youd think.

the man is so ugly that i cant imagine why anyone would want to be thought of as like him in any way.

he gives conservatives a bad name. such a bad name that i dont even include him in the list of conservative radio talk show hosts. hes just an ugly crazy man.
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Postby Neo Art » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:37 pm

Ryadn wrote:What insightful and well-reasoned argument. I feel almost as if I'm listening to his show right now!


birds of a feather, eh?
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:38 pm

Peddieville wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".

Example, please?



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Postby Neo Art » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:38 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:
Exactly, you take the arguments on thier own merit. Think for yourself and independently verify the claims. Then make your own conclusions.


did you...um...did you even read what I wrote?

No, really, I'm being serious. You didn't, did you?


I did. I liked how he uses emotion, hatred and passion to make people listen to the point. Sometimes, jsut sometimes, we dont mean everything we say. We say crazy things to make sure that people are listening to the thigns we DO mean.


So your defense of Michael Savage is...he doesn't really mean it?
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:39 pm

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Too many times we have blindly followed the ramblings of some tenured professor and never bothers to independently verify thier claims. Those claims become perpetuated in ignorance and the result is generations beliving false "truths".


...which is exactly why Neo and others have been arguing that Savage's education doesn't make him an authority on anything (except botany, apparently).

Too many times people don't read posts and say the same things over and over with increasing nonsense.
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