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Obama?

The Messiah
19
3%
A great president
74
11%
He's ok
162
24%
Bad president
78
12%
COMMUNIST!!!
41
6%
A socialist
47
7%
Average liberal
81
12%
A right-winger
40
6%
Typical statist
55
8%
I prefer Bonobos.
77
11%
 
Total votes : 674

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:49 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:ID?

Psychological Concept that you should look up. Very fascinating. ;)

It's Id, not ID.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 pm

Condunum wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:ID?

Maybe the feudian id

Feudian? Is that like a Hatfield and McCoy thing?
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:what do you mean 'have nothing?'

Oh, you know, evidence of any kind to back up anything you've been saying, stuff like that.

I merely stating an opinion not based on fact, merely based on perception.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Because he's less conservative than Limbaugh.

And because saying ridiculous things about the President gets Limbaugh ratings, which gets him money from his sponsors.

That too. I love how the mandate was a conservative idea, and then they turned on it when Obama supported it.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 pm

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Arkinesia wrote:I guess you're one of the suckers who thinks Obama backed out of the public option purely for “political expediency?”

Not because Obama just put that in originally to assuage his gullible progressive base that he's totes progressive?

I don't know what you mean by public option, please elaborate.

On the Affordable Care Act? You know, that public option people were worshiping?

(and should have been included in the final bill?)
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 pm

Rereumrari wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, it's true.
We'll use your logic then. Rush Limbaugh is a conservative also. Why does he hate Obama?

Because being conservative does not mean you will like all conservatives. They aren't a hive mind.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Oh, you know, evidence of any kind to back up anything you've been saying, stuff like that.

I merely stating an opinion not based on fact, merely based on perception.

So you're saying bullshit, pretty much.
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Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:51 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Psychological Concept that you should look up. Very fascinating. ;)

It's Id, not ID.

but capitalism! XD play on words....no, it looks better capitalized.
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Postby The Evenstar » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:51 pm

He brought our debt up to 16 trillion, and has yet to balance the budget. He also has yet to cut the massive, impossible-to-support government spending.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:51 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I merely stating an opinion not based on fact, merely based on perception.

So you're saying bullshit, pretty much.

all of the bull shit.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Condunum wrote:Maybe the feudian id

Feudian? Is that like a Hatfield and McCoy thing?

Oh. Whoops.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:52 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So you're saying bullshit, pretty much.

all of the bull shit.

At least you admit it.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:52 pm

The Evenstar wrote:He brought our debt up to 16 trillion,

Learn what a deficit is.
The Evenstar wrote:and has yet to balance the budget.

Translation, you want to cripple our economy.
The Evenstar wrote: He also has yet to cut the massive, impossible-to-support government spending.

False on both accounts.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:53 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:It's Id, not ID.

but capitalism! XD play on words....no, it looks better capitalized.

But it's not spelled that way.

It's also an unscientific concept.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:53 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:all of the bull shit.

At least you admit it.

why thank you :p
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:53 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:all of the bull shit.

At least you admit it.

And now it begins. Like always.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:54 pm

Condunum wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:At least you admit it.

And now it begins. Like always.

O_O OH GOSH WHAT? MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TROLLS FROM THE DARKNESS OF HELMS DEEP?
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Postby Rereumrari » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:54 pm

The Evenstar wrote:He brought our debt up to 16 trillion, and has yet to balance the budget. He also has yet to cut the massive, impossible-to-support government spending.
Honestly, I didn't expect him to do any of those things. Liberals think you can spend your way out of spending, so we can probably expect to see a 20 trillion debt by 2016. Greece, here we come!
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Postby The Evenstar » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:55 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The Evenstar wrote:He brought our debt up to 16 trillion,

Learn what a deficit is.
The Evenstar wrote:and has yet to balance the budget.

Translation, you want to cripple our economy.
The Evenstar wrote: He also has yet to cut the massive, impossible-to-support government spending.

False on both accounts.


We could cut a few billion from defense, pull some troops back, we could also get rid of some agencies, then stop giving money to countries that hate us.

Oh, and show me how he has cut spending?
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Ended

Cory Schneider-Evenstar Conflict (non-canon war) ----> viewtopic.php?f=5&t=226409
Evenstar invasion of the USSA ----> viewtopic.php?f=5&t=225935
Evenstar invasion of South Rhine ----> viewtopic.php?f=5&t=220495

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:56 pm

Rereumrari wrote:
The Evenstar wrote:He brought our debt up to 16 trillion, and has yet to balance the budget. He also has yet to cut the massive, impossible-to-support government spending.
Honestly, I didn't expect him to do any of those things. Liberals think you can spend your way out of spending, so we can probably expect to see a 20 trillion debt by 2016. Greece, here we come!

WRONG 22 AND A HALF TRILLION, please ensure that you include those 2 extra TRILLION dollars.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:57 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Condunum wrote:And now it begins. Like always.

O_O OH GOSH WHAT? MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TROLLS FROM THE DARKNESS OF HELMS DEEP?

Will you actually behave yourself for ONCE, and not try to derail every single thread you go into?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:58 pm

The Evenstar wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Learn what a deficit is.

Translation, you want to cripple our economy.

False on both accounts.


We could cut a few billion from defense, pull some troops back, we could also get rid of some agencies, then stop giving money to countries that hate us.

Oh, and show me how he has cut spending?

US foreign aid is 1.5% of the total budget. Cutting it out would be like you saying, "Man, my cash flow sucks, I gotta save some money. I know, I'll stop buying a pack of gum once a week. That'll do it."

Sheesh.
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Postby The Evenstar » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:58 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Rereumrari wrote:Honestly, I didn't expect him to do any of those things. Liberals think you can spend your way out of spending, so we can probably expect to see a 20 trillion debt by 2016. Greece, here we come!

WRONG 22 AND A HALF TRILLION, please ensure that you include those 2 extra TRILLION dollars.



HERE WE GO

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Ongoing

The Wolfrik Insurgency ----> http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_ ... k/id=95960

Ended

Cory Schneider-Evenstar Conflict (non-canon war) ----> viewtopic.php?f=5&t=226409
Evenstar invasion of the USSA ----> viewtopic.php?f=5&t=225935
Evenstar invasion of South Rhine ----> viewtopic.php?f=5&t=220495

Treaty of Appreciation

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:58 pm

The Evenstar wrote:We could cut a few billion from defense, pull some troops back, we could also get rid of some agencies, then stop giving money to countries that hate us.

Oh, and show me how he has cut spending?

Sure.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:59 pm

Condunum wrote:
Vazdania wrote:O_O OH GOSH WHAT? MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TROLLS FROM THE DARKNESS OF HELMS DEEP?

Will you actually behave yourself for ONCE, and not try to derail every single thread you go into?

I didn't know threads were like trains :p I'll attempt to behave myself. sorry.
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