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Obama?

The Messiah
19
3%
A great president
74
11%
He's ok
162
24%
Bad president
78
12%
COMMUNIST!!!
41
6%
A socialist
47
7%
Average liberal
81
12%
A right-winger
40
6%
Typical statist
55
8%
I prefer Bonobos.
77
11%
 
Total votes : 674
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Vazdania
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:43 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:He dispays characteristics which are typical of socialists and what socialists tend to do when they are in power. There I said it.

Which is exactly why socialists are disappointed with him. Seems legit.

only because of the House.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:43 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Condunum wrote:If you're trying to parody yourself you're doing a good job. If not, I feel sorry for you and your delusional idea that taxes are evil.

Taxes aren't 'evil per say, I don't think we should raise them. We should lower them. Cut spending starting with military, yes, but not just stop there, we need across the board cuts to things.

Across the board cuts are a bad idea, especially when certain programs are already strained as is.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Which is exactly why socialists are disappointed with him. Seems legit.

only because of the House.

No. His plan is severely lacking from anything resembling socialism.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:He dispays characteristics which are typical of socialists and what socialists tend to do when they are in power. There I said it.

Such as what?

nationalization of things, taxes for everyone, his liberal liberalness of liberalnesses.
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Postby House Korlov » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 pm

Lowered unemployment a bit and spearheaded a very shaky economic recovery, and restored some prestige back to the office of the president. But all this is outweighed by numerous failures, unemployment is still too high, and the reemployed people are often taking low paying jobs. Corporations still have far too much power, and healthcare and higher education costs are careening out of control.

All that considered, I check the "He's okay" box.

As a lot of his policies were Republican party line only fifteen years ago, I checked "right winger" box. He is not the most "radical left wing president ever," rather the Republican party moved so far to the right, that it broke the scale, and became so moronic and aggressive that it derides anything less right wing than it is the ultimate incarnation of Marx, Stalin, Hitler, and Nietzsche fused into one perverted morass.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:only because of the House.

No. His plan is severely lacking from anything resembling socialism.

BUT HALTHCURE
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Which is exactly why socialists are disappointed with him. Seems legit.

only because of the House.

Can you define socialism in your own words?

I'm genuinely curious as to what you think it is.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Condunum wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Taxes aren't 'evil per say, I don't think we should raise them. We should lower them. Cut spending starting with military, yes, but not just stop there, we need across the board cuts to things.

Across the board cuts are a bad idea, especially when certain programs are already strained as is.

Cut them.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Vazdania wrote:nationalization of things,

What?
Vazdania wrote: taxes for everyone,

Which hasn't happened nor is his plan.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Such as what?

nationalization of things, taxes for everyone, his liberal liberalness of liberalnesses.

YEAH HIS LIBRULNESS MAKES HIM A LIBRUL SOCIELEST OF EVAL. IMAECH. IMAECH.
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Postby Rereumrari » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vazdania wrote:He dispays characteristics which are typical of socialists and what socialists tend to do when they are in power. There I said it.

Which is exactly why socialists are disappointed with him. Seems legit.
They shouldn't be. They should be rooting for him as the figurehead for American Socialism instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. I don't know why people on the far left are so ashamed to admit who they are and they even go as far as to pretend to be conservatives. Obama a conservative? There is the real lie.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Such as what?

nationalization of things, taxes for everyone, his liberal liberalness of liberalnesses.

What has he nationalized? Everyone paying taxes is not new and ... You really have nothing, do you?
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Condunum wrote:Across the board cuts are a bad idea, especially when certain programs are already strained as is.

Cut them.

You should never be elected into any office. Ever.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:46 pm

Rereumrari wrote: Obama a conservative? There is the real lie.

No, it's true.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:46 pm

Rereumrari wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Which is exactly why socialists are disappointed with him. Seems legit.
They shouldn't be. They should be rooting for him as the figurehead for American Socialism instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. I don't know why people on the far left are so ashamed to admit who they are and they even go as far as to pretend to be conservatives. Obama a conservative? There is the real lie.

Look, if you want to live in the fantasy world of obama being a socialist, fine. But we in the real world...
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:46 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:only because of the House.

Can you define socialism in your own words?

I'm genuinely curious as to what you think it is.

My ID wants me to say: "Anything which is moderately left wing"
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Postby Rereumrari » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:47 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Rereumrari wrote: Obama a conservative? There is the real lie.

No, it's true.
We'll use your logic then. Rush Limbaugh is a conservative also. Why does he hate Obama?
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:nationalization of things, taxes for everyone, his liberal liberalness of liberalnesses.

What has he nationalized? Everyone paying taxes is not new and ... You really have nothing, do you?

what do you mean 'have nothing?'
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:48 pm

Rereumrari wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, it's true.
We'll use your logic then. Rush Limbaugh is a conservative also. Why does he hate Obama?

Because he's even further on the right than Obama is. Obama is a moderate conservative.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:48 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Can you define socialism in your own words?

I'm genuinely curious as to what you think it is.

My ID wants me to say: "Anything which is moderately left wing"

ID?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:48 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:What has he nationalized? Everyone paying taxes is not new and ... You really have nothing, do you?

what do you mean 'have nothing?'

Oh, you know, evidence of any kind to back up anything you've been saying, stuff like that.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:48 pm

Rereumrari wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, it's true.
We'll use your logic then. Rush Limbaugh is a conservative also. Why does he hate Obama?

Because he's less conservative than Limbaugh.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:49 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:My ID wants me to say: "Anything which is moderately left wing"

ID?

Maybe the feudian id
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:49 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vazdania wrote:My ID wants me to say: "Anything which is moderately left wing"

ID?

Psychological Concept that you should look up. Very fascinating. ;)
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:49 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Rereumrari wrote:We'll use your logic then. Rush Limbaugh is a conservative also. Why does he hate Obama?

Because he's less conservative than Limbaugh.

And because saying ridiculous things about the President gets Limbaugh ratings, which gets him money from his sponsors.
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<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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