Barack Obama: 4 Years In Review

[Mavorpen]

1. It's actually a very popular analogy. I'm fully aware that it doesn't make sense, and wouldn't happen in the real world (I would hope not), but that's not the point. Believe it or not, it's very similar to how redistribution works, and it's just about as fair.

I'm aware it's popular. That doesn't make it any less stupid. It's nowhere close to how redistribution works, and is a painfully idiotic simplification of a complex economic system.

3. Because people aren't working for their welfare.

Source?

Quick semi-relevant question: What do you think of the government literally handing out free cellphones to people on welfare? Is that fair and sensible?

I don't care.

[Alien Space Bats]

...Where do you think jobs come from? The Goverment Welfare Fairy?

Jobs come from unmet consumer demand.

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What, did you thing rich people create them "just because"?

[Mavorpen]

...Where do you think jobs come from? The Goverment Welfare Fairy?

Jobs come from unmet consumer demand.

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What, did you thing rich people create them "just because"?

Nonsense. Everyone knows that rich people wake up in the morning and decide, "Ah, what a lovely day! Oh no, look at that poor homeless man! I know! I'm going to expand some more, even though my output and sales haven't increased in the slightest! It's all for the poor of course!"

[Romalae]

Jobs come from unmet consumer demand.

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What, did you thing rich people create them "just because"?

Nonsense. Everyone knows that rich people wake up in the morning and decide, "Ah, what a lovely day! Oh no, look at that poor homeless man! I know! I'm going to expand some more, even though my output and sales haven't increased in the slightest! It's all for the poor of course!"

I'm sorry, you said "rich people," I think you meant "job creators."

[Mavorpen]

Nonsense. Everyone knows that rich people wake up in the morning and decide, "Ah, what a lovely day! Oh no, look at that poor homeless man! I know! I'm going to expand some more, even though my output and sales haven't increased in the slightest! It's all for the poor of course!"

I'm sorry, you said "rich people," I think you meant "job creators."

Well guys, looks like the Free Market Fairy™ is going to murder me in my sleep.

[Enadail]

I'm sorry, you said "rich people," I think you meant "job creators."

Well guys, looks like the Free Market Fairy™ is going to murder me in my sleep.

Hardly... the FMF outsources that. Its cheaper.

[The Serbian Empire]

Mediocre, I would say he is far from even good. Just mediocre as having diametrically opposed branches of Congress restricted what significant amounts of good or bad could have come out of his administration. 5.5/10 with 0/10 being Buchanan and 10/10 being worthy of Mt. Rushmore or massive numbers of statues.

[Arkinesia]

A lame neo-liberal taking over for a lame neo-conservative after a pretty decent Third Way president.

Bleh.

What? What actually liberal stuff has Obama done? This guy is at best moderate, at worst, conservative.

Neoliberalism is just a form of pretend liberalism with largely right-wing stances and a hard-on for the military-industrial complex.

It keeps a lot of authoritarian elements of liberal political doctrines but doesn't actually follow liberalism very closely. Think of it as a less right-wing neoconservatism.

[Rereumrari]

Definitely a communist deep down, but the scary thing is that we've had worse.

[Farnhamia]

Definitely a communist deep down, but the scary thing is that we've had worse.

Based on what evidence do you say he's a communist deep down?

[Rereumrari]

Definitely a communist deep down, but the scary thing is that we've had worse.

Based on what evidence do you say he's a communist deep down?

If he could, he would come out as a communist. It's just too politically unpopular for him to do so. The same reasonings also explain why he won't admit he is an athiest.

[Farnhamia]

Based on what evidence do you say he's a communist deep down?

If he could. he would come out as a communist. It's just too politically unpopular for him to do so. The same reasonings also explain why he won't admit he is an athiest.

So no evidence whatsoever?

[Vazdania]

where exactly is the "lets impeach the president now because they've done such a bad job?" option?

[Condunum]

Definitely a communist deep down, but the scary thing is that we've had worse.

I'll believe you when he's actually a communist.

[Mavorpen]

where exactly is the "lets impeach the president now because they've done such a bad job?" option?

Doesn't exist. The poll has to be ground in some reality.

[Condunum]

where exactly is the "lets impeach the president now because they've done such a bad job?" option?

Right next to the "I don't know what I'm talking about and I like to parrot right-wing catch phrases" option.

[Farnhamia]

where exactly is the "lets impeach the president now because they've done such a bad job?" option?

Doing a bad job - which Obama has not - is not a high crime or misdemeanor.

[Arkinesia]

where exactly is the "lets impeach the president now because they've done such a bad job?" option?

Doing a bad job - which Obama has not - is not a high crime or misdemeanor.

A lame President makes a bad President in my book.

[Condunum]

Doing a bad job - which Obama has not - is not a high crime or misdemeanor.

A lame President makes a bad President in my book.

He man he's lame, like he isn't cool and stuff.

Yeah man like, he isn't cool like that other president man.

[Vazdania]

where exactly is the "lets impeach the president now because they've done such a bad job?" option?

Right next to the "I don't know what I'm talking about and I like to parrot right-wing catch phrases" option.

right next to the "left wingers tax the fuck out of everyone option?" Oh I see it now!

[Rereumrari]

If he could. he would come out as a communist. It's just too politically unpopular for him to do so. The same reasonings also explain why he won't admit he is an athiest.

So no evidence whatsoever?

At the very least he is a socialist. I think we can all agree there. And since i've gotten communists here to admit that socialism is a stepping stone to communism, then he definitely also a communist.

[Condunum]

Right next to the "I don't know what I'm talking about and I like to parrot right-wing catch phrases" option.

right next to the "left wingers tax the fuck out of everyone option?" Oh I see it now!

You're really bad at this.

[Farnhamia]

Doing a bad job - which Obama has not - is not a high crime or misdemeanor.

A lame President makes a bad President in my book.

An opinion to which you're entitled. Wrong, in my opinion, but in a battle of opinions, no one wins.

[Wahoigletopia]

He's no Reagan, and far too left-wing for my tastes. But he could have been worse. 5/10.

Indeed, he's nothing like Reagan, as he's sent 0 weapons to Iran and funded 0 terrorists in Latin America.

*coughfastandfuriouscough*

To clarify, the Mujahideen were trained by US soldiers to overthrow an opressive government, and the Zetas had the same goal, as they weren't terrorists at the time, but a paramilitary group. Perhaps being clear on what those groups Reagan helped might improve your opinion of him.

[United States of America Under Dodes]

I view him in a positive light, but I think he compromises too much with the uncompromising 7.5/10