Barack Obama: 4 Years In Review

[Nadkor]

What's the point of that question? In what retarded place do you work 100+ hours a week and can't afford any sort of insurance? Greece?

The United Kingdom. I maintained a work rate in excess of a hundred hours a week for about a year without ever having less than half of my income coming from government aid and without ever making enough to practically live on.

What on earth job were you doing? Even if we assume that you were 16 or something a minimum wage job would earn you about £300 per week. If you were over 21 then a minimum wage job would earn you about £600 per week, or about £30k per year.

That's more than enough to live on.

[Salandriagado]

The United Kingdom. I maintained a work rate in excess of a hundred hours a week for about a year without ever having less than half of my income coming from government aid and without ever making enough to practically live on.

Then you're doing it wrong. Working, living, all of that...

What do you do, by the way?

At the time, I was doing pretty much everything I could. Generally, I spent the summer teaching people to sail (and doing other stuff, because that sure as fuck doesn't pay anywhere near enough for anything) and the winter grabbing any job I could lay my hands on.

The United Kingdom. I maintained a work rate in excess of a hundred hours a week for about a year without ever having less than half of my income coming from government aid and without ever making enough to practically live on.

What on earth job were you doing? Even if we assume that you were 16 or something a minimum wage job would earn you about £300 per week. If you were over 21 then a minimum wage job would earn you about £600 per week, or about £30k per year.

That's more than enough to live on.

Essentially, doing lots of jobs that don't actually pay minimum wage. Most of them get around it by saying that they are technically paying you as a subcontracted business rather than as an employee.

[Desperate Measures]

Considering the fact that I can't afford insurance, and I have a pre-existing condition or two, AHA sounds like a good deal.

*shrug* Don't blame me or the rest of the world for your bad life decisions, if you made more you'd be able to afford insurance and then the AHA would seem like what it is: Theft.

A healthy person is generally able to work more and contribute more to society.

[Howdoyoudoland]

What's the point of that question? In what retarded place do you work 100+ hours a week and can't afford any sort of insurance? Greece?

Why would someone in Greece, which has a universal healthcare system, need to afford any health insurance?

I'm confused.

He hates waiting 3 months to see a doctor because his country has Universal Healthcare?

[Howdoyoudoland]

*shrug* Don't blame me or the rest of the world for your bad life decisions, if you made more you'd be able to afford insurance and then the AHA would seem like what it is: Theft.

A healthy person is generally able to work more and contribute more to society.

You assume we need more people to contribute to society, we just need less leeching off of it.

[Divair]

Why would someone in Greece, which has a universal healthcare system, need to afford any health insurance?

I'm confused.

He hates waiting 3 months to see a doctor because his country has Universal Healthcare?

I haven't waited over a week at most, and if it were an emergency, I could get an appointment with a few hours, where are you getting your BS from this time? Faux News?

[Gauntleted Fist]

If anything, Wealth Redistribution does the exact opposite, it robs people of any standard of living they might have had.

If you tax someone who makes ten million dollars a year at a rate of 75%, he will still have a much higher standard of living than someone making $50,000 a year taxed at 25%. Like... magnitudes of levels better. Because he will still have millions of dollars. While the person making $50,000 a year will only have $37,500 left over.

[Enadail]

...I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the fact that we're still at 7% unemployment. Probably worse, in all reality.

Wait, I'm sorry, are you arguing for me or you? 7% is great, its steadily dropping. Isn't that what you want? I have no idea what your point was supposed to be.

Horror of horrors, the thought that you might have to shop around for your own insurance.

Horror of horrors that insurance companies can deny you for any reason they want, meaning people have to choose between buying food and paying their medical bills. Again, not sure what you're arguing.

...As long as they know when the shit hits the fan, good ol' Uncle Sam will foot the bill.

I'm glad you ignored the rest of my post, where I pointed out that we could have changed by giving them the money needed to keep our economy from becoming Zimbabwe while imposing restrictions to keep them from doing it again. You are aware what would happen if the major banks just closed shop, right? How many many companies, specially small businesses, run on credit? If banks suddenly closed, companies/stores/etc would just start folding, people would have no money, and we'd have hit a record depression. We needed to keep the banks afloat. But we should have put in laws to make sure they couldn't again. But thank you republicans for making sure banks now know they run the economy and have free access to America's coffers! It has nothing to do with Obama.

[Desperate Measures]

A healthy person is generally able to work more and contribute more to society.

You assume we need more people to contribute to society, we just need less leeching off of it.

Why not just cut out the sickness part and put a bullet in their brain straight off, then? More efficient.

[Divair]

I'm glad you ignored the rest of my post, where I pointed out that we could have changed by giving them the money needed to keep our economy from becoming Zimbabwe while imposing restrictions to keep them from doing it again. You are aware what would happen if the major banks just closed shop, right? How many many companies, specially small businesses, run on credit? If banks suddenly closed, companies/stores/etc would just start folding, people would have no money, and we'd have hit a record depression. We needed to keep the banks afloat. But we should have put in laws to make sure they couldn't again. But thank you republicans for making sure banks now know they run the economy and have free access to America's coffers! It has nothing to do with Obama.

And letting them all fail isn't an option. See Great Depression.

[Laerod]

What's the point of that question? In what retarded place do you work 100+ hours a week and can't afford any sort of insurance? Greece?

Why would someone in Greece, which has a universal healthcare system, need to afford any health insurance?

I'm confused.

Well, in Greece it's because corruption and bribery are so widespread that you can't get treatment in a timely fashion unless you bribe your doctor.

[Divair]

You assume we need more people to contribute to society, we just need less leeching off of it.

Why not just cut out the sickness part and put a bullet in their brain straight off, then? More efficient.

1. Kill everyone below the poverty line.
2. ???
3. Prosperity.

[Laerod]

Why would someone in Greece, which has a universal healthcare system, need to afford any health insurance?

I'm confused.

He hates waiting 3 months to see a doctor because his country has Universal Healthcare?

Yeah, that's not why.

[Howdoyoudoland]

You assume we need more people to contribute to society, we just need less leeching off of it.

Why not just cut out the sickness part and put a bullet in their brain straight off, then? More efficient.

I guess it would sort things out quicker, wouldn't it? If those people who can't carry their load would do so, I'd be much obliged.

[Salandriagado]

Why not just cut out the sickness part and put a bullet in their brain straight off, then? More efficient.

I guess it would sort things out quicker, wouldn't it? If those people who can't carry their load would do so, I'd be much obliged.

You still haven't answered my question.

[Khodoristan]

I'll have to review all the famous Afghani scientist, composers, artist, philosophers, engineers, industrialist, statesmen, and generals and get back to you.

Ooh! So snide. Someone needs a hug...or two...or twenty.

Typical conservative egocentrism. Knocking an entire people while playing brownnose to Rush Limbaugh and Mittens. So sad, really.

[Desperate Measures]

Why not just cut out the sickness part and put a bullet in their brain straight off, then? More efficient.

1. Kill everyone below the poverty line.
2. ???
3. Prosperity.

It's the American way.

[Divair]

1. Kill everyone below the poverty line.
2. ???
3. Prosperity.

It's the American way.

You mean the 'MURICAN way.

[Desperate Measures]

Why not just cut out the sickness part and put a bullet in their brain straight off, then? More efficient.

I guess it would sort things out quicker, wouldn't it? If those people who can't carry their load would do so, I'd be much obliged.

I guess you'd have to have some sort of gov't free gun program.

[Nadkor]

Why would someone in Greece, which has a universal healthcare system, need to afford any health insurance?

I'm confused.

He hates waiting 3 months to see a doctor because his country has Universal Healthcare?

My sister got diagnosed with cervical cancer in mid-November.

Before Christmas she'd had her surgery and was back out of hospital.

Truly, universal healthcare is the scourge of the free world.

[New England and The Maritimes]

He hates waiting 3 months to see a doctor because his country has Universal Healthcare?

My sister got diagnosed with cervical cancer in mid-November.

Before Christmas she'd had her surgery and was back out of hospital.

Truly, universal healthcare is the scourge of the free world.

She wasn't forced to work herself to death to pay for life saving surgery. Such a fucking shame, truly. In a REAL country she'd be put into debt and then the debt collectors would be authorized to shoot her on sight.

[Demara]

What's the point of that question? In what retarded place do you work 100+ hours a week and can't afford any sort of insurance? Greece?

Recession United States?

[Laerod]

He hates waiting 3 months to see a doctor because his country has Universal Healthcare?

My sister got diagnosed with cervical cancer in mid-November.

Before Christmas she'd had her surgery and was back out of hospital.

Truly, universal healthcare is the scourge of the free world.

I broke my arm a few years back. It took months for me to see a doctor about it. And by months I mean hours.

[Divair]

My sister got diagnosed with cervical cancer in mid-November.

Before Christmas she'd had her surgery and was back out of hospital.

Truly, universal healthcare is the scourge of the free world.

I broke my arm a few years back. It took months for me to see a doctor about it. And by months I mean hours.

The horror.

[Howdoyoudoland]

I guess it would sort things out quicker, wouldn't it? If those people who can't carry their load would do so, I'd be much obliged.

I guess you'd have to have some sort of gov't free gun program.

Nah, if they offered, I'm sure everyone in my town would let them borrow a rifle here, some ammo there...

We're neighborly types.

Alright, jokes over, seriously if you can't afford insurance that's your problem, whatever happens happens.