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by Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:17 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Raising taxes on the top-earners recently, to start.
Howdoyoudoland wrote:I need a source that states that Afghanistan is an underdeveloped backwards shithole and has been that way since forever?
Try wikipedia, for one? I really thought that one was obvious.
Howdoyoudoland wrote:For one, he could've not spent all that stimulus money, enacted the Affordable Healthcare Act, or bailed out the banks when they fucked up.

by Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:18 pm
North Stradia wrote:Western cuba wrote:I'm going to be the guy that brings up the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), but since we're talking about our boy Obama's four year review its basically needed in this debate.
So what do you guys will think will come of the act. Some parts of the act are great in my opinion. For example, young adults being covered until there 25/26 (I forget the exact age) and health insurance companies being forced to cover you no matter your health conditions and previous incidents dealing with your health.
But then there's that conversational side of the act...
A strong majority of Americans oppose the individual mandate.

by Laerod » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:20 pm

by Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:21 pm
Rupture Farms co wrote:Piece of shit. 0/10

by Howdoyoudoland » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:21 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:I need a source that states that Afghanistan is an underdeveloped backwards shithole and has been that way since forever?
Try wikipedia, for one? I really thought that one was obvious.
No, you need evidence that leaving now rather than in 2014 won't lead to a collapse of the government and an increase in power for Al Qaeda.
Howdoyoudoland wrote:For one, he could've not spent all that stimulus money, enacted the Affordable Healthcare Act, or bailed out the banks when they fucked up.
You mean he could have slowed down the recovery? Why would he do that?

by Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm

by Desperate Measures » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm

by Mavorpen » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm

by Salandriagado » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm
Western cuba wrote:I'm going to be the guy that brings up the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), but since we're talking about our boy Obama's four year review its basically needed in this debate.
So what do you guys will think will come of the act. Some parts of the act are great in my opinion. For example, young adults being covered until there 25/26 (I forget the exact age) and health insurance companies being forced to cover you no matter your health conditions and previous incidents dealing with your health.
But then there's that conversational side of the act...

by Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm

by Western cuba » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm

by Laerod » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:23 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:Divair wrote:What, no source on how the debt affects us? Fine, I'll let it slip since you probably know deep down that it's BS.
He tried to balance the budget? GOD FORBID!
...Where do you think jobs come from? The Goverment Welfare Fairy?No, you need evidence that leaving now rather than in 2014 won't lead to a collapse of the government and an increase in power for Al Qaeda.
I didn't make that argument, you asked if I cared if they were fucked, I stated they're a fucked up place anyway, who gives a fuck if they're a little more fucked up after this?
It's a shithole, it's always been a shithole, it'll always be a shithole.You mean he could have slowed down the recovery? Why would he do that?
The stimulus package slowed the economy, the AHA is a big reason the economy isn't doing better now, and bailing out the banks will just lead to the same shenanigans and expansion of government power in the future.

by Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:23 pm
Western cuba wrote:Its quite nerve racking seeing people post 0 and 1 scores with basically no explanation or sources to back them up. Heck, I don't even believe Harding deserved a 2.

by Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:23 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:...Where do you think jobs come from? The Goverment Welfare Fairy?

Howdoyoudoland wrote:I didn't make that argument, you asked if I cared if they were fucked, I stated they're a fucked up place anyway, who gives a fuck if they're a little more fucked up after this?
It's a shithole, it's always been a shithole, it'll always be a shithole.
Howdoyoudoland wrote:The stimulus package slowed the economy, the AHA is a big reason the economy isn't doing better now, and bailing out the banks will just lead to the same shenanigans and expansion of government power in the future.

by Howdoyoudoland » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:24 pm

by Salandriagado » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:24 pm
No, you need evidence that leaving now rather than in 2014 won't lead to a collapse of the government and an increase in power for Al Qaeda.
I didn't make that argument, you asked if I cared if they were fucked, I stated they're a fucked up place anyway, who gives a fuck if they're a little more fucked up after this?
It's a shithole, it's always been a shithole, it'll always be a shithole.You mean he could have slowed down the recovery? Why would he do that?
The stimulus package slowed the economy,
the AHA is a big reason the economy isn't doing better now,
and bailing out the banks will just lead to the same shenanigans and expansion of government power in the future.

by North Stradia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:24 pm

by Farnhamia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:24 pm

by Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:24 pm
Howdoyoudoland wrote:If we make no effort to reduce the debt now, we never will.
It's already got so out of control that we have to raise the debt ceiling year after year, we can't let this become a habit.

by North Stradia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:25 pm
Divair wrote:Howdoyoudoland wrote:...Where do you think jobs come from? The Goverment Welfare Fairy?
Obviously the economy was in a massive depression in the 50's by your logic, right?
Or maybe not. Because the marginal tax rate doesn't really matter to job creation.Howdoyoudoland wrote:I didn't make that argument, you asked if I cared if they were fucked, I stated they're a fucked up place anyway, who gives a fuck if they're a little more fucked up after this?
It's a shithole, it's always been a shithole, it'll always be a shithole.
So you're fine with Al Qaeda coming back to power, leading to future terror attacks like 9/11?Howdoyoudoland wrote:The stimulus package slowed the economy, the AHA is a big reason the economy isn't doing better now, and bailing out the banks will just lead to the same shenanigans and expansion of government power in the future.
Sources needed.
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