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Barack Obama: 4 Years In Review

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The Messiah
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A great president
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He's ok
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Bad president
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COMMUNIST!!!
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6%
A socialist
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7%
Average liberal
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A right-winger
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Typical statist
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I prefer Bonobos.
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Barack Obama: 4 Years In Review

Postby North Stradia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:00 pm

Obama was just sworn into his second term as President.

I think this is a good time to review what he has done over his past four years.

I think he broke a lot of his promises. He campaigned on ending the wars, yet we are still very much a nation at war. He has also ignored his promises to shut down Guantanamo. I'm happy he finally came out and supported gay marriage though.

What do you think?
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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:02 pm

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He did good. 8.5/10. Solid president.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:03 pm

You got a Messiah option? I consider that a joke option besides the Bonobos one.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:04 pm

North Stradia wrote:He has also ignored his promises to shut down Guantanamo.

Ignored? I was under the impression that Congress stopped him from shutting down Guantanamo Bay by collectively refusing to house the prisoners there anywhere else.
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Postby King George Washington » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:04 pm

Considering the mess he inherited from Bush, I think he did a very good job with the economy, gun violence, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. A solid 9/10
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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:04 pm

Ifreann wrote:
North Stradia wrote:He has also ignored his promises to shut down Guantanamo.

Ignored? I was under the impression that Congress stopped him from shutting down Guantanamo Bay by collectively refusing to house the prisoners there anywhere else.

He did issue an executive order, afaik. No clue how the thing is still running.
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Postby Sophian » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:05 pm

Bad president, typical statist, I prefer bonobos.
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Postby ALMF » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:05 pm

Could you add the true Moderate Conservative?
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Postby Khodoristan » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:06 pm

I think he did a bang up job. Because of him, I can now pay for law school and not give an arm and a leg, and the Christopher and Dana Reeve Bill helped my mom get a job for the first time in 16 years, since her illness.
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Postby Saruhan » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:06 pm

Sophian wrote:Bad president, typical statist, I prefer bonobos.

Well, it's too bad for you that simply every single political leader in the world is a statist then, that must be depressing for you
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Postby North Stradia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:06 pm

ALMF wrote:Could you add the true Moderate Conservative?

I didn't have room, sorry. Maximum is 10 poll options.
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Postby Nadkor » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:06 pm

Ifreann wrote:
North Stradia wrote:He has also ignored his promises to shut down Guantanamo.

Ignored? I was under the impression that Congress stopped him from shutting down Guantanamo Bay by collectively refusing to house the prisoners there anywhere else.


Yeah, but then a significant number of the charges of failure that are levelled at Obama can be directly attributed to the GOP's obstructionism.
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Postby Densaner » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:07 pm

History will probably be kinder to him than his current critics. On the plus side he didn't start any stupid wars. However his first term was stymied by an intransigent Congress. This will remain the case. He might be a good leader but he will never be able to achieve the great reforms of previous Democratic Presidents.
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Postby Silent Majority » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:07 pm

Divair wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ignored? I was under the impression that Congress stopped him from shutting down Guantanamo Bay by collectively refusing to house the prisoners there anywhere else.

He did issue an executive order, afaik. No clue how the thing is still running.


IIRC Congress blocked any money from being used to close it down
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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:07 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
Divair wrote:He did issue an executive order, afaik. No clue how the thing is still running.


IIRC Congress blocked any money from being used to close it down

Fuck Congress.
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Postby Khodoristan » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:08 pm

Divair wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
IIRC Congress blocked any money from being used to close it down

Fuck Congress.


:hug: Amen to that, brotha.
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Postby North Stradia » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:09 pm

Divair wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
IIRC Congress blocked any money from being used to close it down

Fuck Congress.

My thoughts exactly.
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Postby King George Washington » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:10 pm

Divair wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
IIRC Congress blocked any money from being used to close it down

Fuck Congress.

True Dat! :clap:
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:10 pm

Divair wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
IIRC Congress blocked any money from being used to close it down

Fuck Congress.

And use protection.
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Postby Divair » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Divair wrote:Fuck Congress.

And use protection.

Pft, what am I, a sissy?
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:11 pm

Densaner wrote:History will probably be kinder to him than his current critics. On the plus side he didn't start any stupid wars. However his first term was stymied by an intransigent Congress. This will remain the case. He might be a good leader but he will never be able to achieve the great reforms of previous Democratic Presidents.


The dude got the nobel peace prize and got us involved in Libya, had a troop surge etc etc

sure he didn't "start" any though.
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Postby Moon Cows » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:11 pm

He's no Reagan, and far too left-wing for my tastes. But he could have been worse. 5/10.
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Postby Densaner » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:12 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Densaner wrote:History will probably be kinder to him than his current critics. On the plus side he didn't start any stupid wars. However his first term was stymied by an intransigent Congress. This will remain the case. He might be a good leader but he will never be able to achieve the great reforms of previous Democratic Presidents.


The dude got the nobel peace prize and got us involved in Libya, had a troop surge etc etc

sure he didn't "start" any though.


Yeah... :roll:
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:14 pm

Moon Cows wrote:He's no Reagan, and far too left-wing for my tastes. But he could have been worse. 5/10.


Indeed, he's nothing like Reagan, as he's sent 0 weapons to Iran and funded 0 terrorists in Latin America.

He gets a 7/10 for me, he would probably have got more if the GOP were set to a mode other than OBSTRUCTOBSTRUCTGERRYMANDERFILIBUSTEROBSTRUCT.
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Postby Khodoristan » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:14 pm

Divair wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And use protection.

Pft, what am I, a sissy?


Damn girl, you ratchet as fuck.
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