Atheism is a faith

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yeah, even as a theist, I'd have to say that atheism is not a faith by any reasonable definition of the word.

[Xathranaar]

Yeah, even as a theist, I'd have to say that atheism is not a faith by any reasonable definition of the word.

Do you find it offensive at all that some theists think faith is so terrible of a thing that they try to inflict it upon atheists as an argument?

[Czechanada]

Yeah, even as a theist, I'd have to say that atheism is not a faith by any reasonable definition of the word.

That's a rather coincedental use of the word "reasonable".

[Buddha Punk Robot Monks]

When I just now read this thread title for some reason I thought it said "Atheism is a fish."

My two cents: atheism is faith in a lack of faith, so yes.

[Nidaria]

Atheism is not a faith, it is a chronic lack of faith. Although it can be classified as a belief, it is not a faith.

[Xathranaar]

When I just now read this thread title for some reason I thought it said "Atheism is a fish."

I cannot decide whether to make a pun about an amphibian, or an extremely obscure reference to William Faulkner.

My two cents: atheism is faith in a lack of faith, so yes.

The belief without evidence in not believing things without evidence?

That, my friend, is called a "deepity." To the extent that it is true it is trivial, to the extent that it is profound it is false.

[Buddha Punk Robot Monks]

When I just now read this thread title for some reason I thought it said "Atheism is a fish."

I cannot decide whether to make a pun about an amphibian, or an extremely obscure reference to William Faulkner.

Oh Faulkner, please.

My two cents: atheism is faith in a lack of faith, so yes.

The belief without evidence in not believing things without evidence?

That, my friend, is called a "deepity." To the extent that it is true it is trivial, to the extent that it is profound it is false.

Yes, faith in not taking things on faith. That is, atheists trust (ie have faith) that there is nothings to be known in the universe that cannot be known without evidence,

[Xathranaar]

I cannot decide whether to make a pun about an amphibian, or an extremely obscure reference to William Faulkner.

Oh Faulkner, please.

The belief without evidence in not believing things without evidence?

That, my friend, is called a "deepity." To the extent that it is true it is trivial, to the extent that it is profound it is false.

Yes, faith in not taking things on faith. That is, atheists trust (ie have faith) that there is nothings to be known in the universe that cannot be known without evidence,

You're thinking of materialists dear.

I thought a Buddhist would know that.

[Multiflow]

1. Yes. I agree not a religion. No structure.
2. Faith in the evidence? Unless, you have performed all the experiments yourself?

Well, logic, "god did it" is just as redundant as ending at "it happens" we strive to find out how and why it happens.

Correct, just as redundant. The difference is, do we then continue to find out more of the how and the why? It is implied in most of the rhetoric, that some do not. ( I do not disagree.)

We all have faith in the education that we have received, that it is right and correct. Have you tested that education, personally seen the veracity of its claims? Or do you rely on what others have said, because of the authority given them?

Reread what I wrote, it applies to both sides.

[Demen 2]

The libellous statement that atheism is a form of faith is the polar opposite of the truth (as atheism is based upon evidence and logic, which are the opposite of faith), and thus a form of trolling. Alidina of course is well aware of that, having perpetrated it.

show me prove there is no god or show me proof there is a good either one requires faith sense there is no iron clad proof

Africa.

[Buddha Punk Robot Monks]

Oh Faulkner, please.


Yes, faith in not taking things on faith. That is, atheists trust (ie have faith) that there is nothings to be known in the universe that cannot be known without evidence,

You're thinking of materialists dear.

I thought a Buddhist would know that.

Well materialistic atheism is the most common where I live (US). Buddhism is an atheistic religion (at least certain forms); however it is very reliant on trust in the Dharma, at least until you are sufficiently advanced to test Shakyamuni Buddha's teachings for yourself. Therefore I assumed this thread was about the materialistic atheism common in the US and the West.

[Genivaria]

You're thinking of materialists dear.

I thought a Buddhist would know that.

Well materialistic atheism is the most common where I live (US). Buddhism is an atheistic religion (at least certain forms); however it is very reliant on trust in the Dharma, at least until you are sufficiently advanced to test Shakyamuni Buddha's teachings for yourself. Therefore I assumed this thread was about the materialistic atheism common in the US and the West.

Don't make such assumptions.

[Grave_n_idle]

It may be a faith but it definitely isn't a religion.

It's neither a faith nor a religion.

[Individuality-ness]

When I just now read this thread title for some reason I thought it said "Atheism is a fish."

Reading some "As I Lay Dying" much?

My two cents: atheism is faith in a lack of faith, so yes.

So bald is a hairstyle and being poor is rich?

[Grave_n_idle]

Atheism is not a faith, it is a chronic lack of faith. Although it can be classified as a belief, it is not a faith.

Some Atheists have a 'belief' that there is no god - but atheism, per se, is not a belief.

[Grave_n_idle]

When I just now read this thread title for some reason I thought it said "Atheism is a fish."

My two cents: atheism is faith in a lack of faith, so yes.

Atheism is not 'faith in a lack of faith'.

[Zottistan]

Well, that's not atheism. It's deism or something like that. Or possibly agnostic theism.

A person who does not believe in a god, and thinks he or she can prove that those gods which people do believe in do not exist, is an agnostic theist?

Proof that mainstream religions are false does not justify gnostic atheism.

[Minarchist States Of Equality]

Athiesm is not a faith. Faith is believing in something with no facts. Atheists only believe in facts. You sir are wrong.

[Dyakovo]

It may be a faith but it definitely isn't a religion.

It's neither.

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When I just now read this thread title for some reason I thought it said "Atheism is a fish."

My two cents: atheism is faith in a lack of faith, so yes.

Wrong.

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Atheism is not a faith, it is a chronic lack of faith. Although it can be classified as a belief, it is not a faith.

No, it isn't a belief. It is a lack of belief in a deity or deities.

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[Minarchist States Of Equality]

I can't wait until a secular world is finally forged and everyone realizes how much bullshit religion is.

[Great Nepal]

Atheism is not a faith, it is a chronic lack of faith. Although it can be classified as a belief, it is not a faith.

No, it isn't a belief. It is a lack of belief in a deity or deities.

Didn't you get the memo? As of this morning,
Non-belief is belief.
Not having money is having money.
Not committing genocide is committing genocide.
Not having sex is having sex.
...nods.

[Individuality-ness]

No, it isn't a belief. It is a lack of belief in a deity or deities.

Didn't you get the memo? As of this morning,
Non-belief is belief.
Not having money is having money.
Not committing genocide is committing genocide.
Not having sex is having sex.
...nods.

Wait. So we're constantly getting boned? Whoot!

[Individuality-ness]

Athiesm is not a faith. Faith is believing in something with no facts. Atheists only believe in facts. You sir are wrong.

Eh, no, atheists have been superstitious and the like. :/

[EnragedMaldivians]

Athiesm is not a faith. Faith is believing in something with no facts. Atheists only believe in facts. You sir are wrong.

Untrue. Atheists just lack belief in God. That doesn't mean they can't believe in all sorts of things that are not facts.

I mean, Christ, I have my objections to some of the ideas inherent to religion and to theism, but some atheist folks need to get over this whole mentality that they're so much smarter than those "dummy dum dum religious folks" they've got going on. And yes, your post does imply exactly that.

I can't wait until a secular world is finally forged and everyone realizes how much bullshit religion is.

Secularism and religion can co-exist. I look forward to the day more people realize this.

[Minarchist States Of Equality]

I’ve noticed on NS that people who are atheist get mad when a theist talks about the faith of Atheism. Faith is a believe in something everyone has faith that’s where hope and such comes from, you have faith in humanity or faith in your friends, faith isn’t mutually exclusive to religion. Atheism is a faith sense you believe there is nothing, it isn’t a religion though sense you believe there is nothing. The important bit is believing in something every human must believe in something and have faith in it whether they believe there is no god or there is one, is up to them but they must have faith and believe it.

So why do the atheist get so mad about it calling it for what it is?

It's not what it is look up the definition of faith