Atheism is a faith

[Norstal]

Look, I think all the guy is saying that theists are being persecuted. It's true. Theists are being persecuted by other theists. Christians are being persecuted in places where they are minority and interestingly, the opposite is true.

What I don't and what I'll never, ever, ever accept is that atheists aren't being persecuted anywhere. Between the prejudice that atheists receive by society as a whole and the general hatred against them, it is an undeniable fact that they are hated everywhere, anywhere.

Everywhere?

What I meant is that atheism have no home country to be safe in. Obviously there's pockets of communities that can be friendly to atheists, but I find those to be rare. A Catholic have Italy and most of South America, Muslims have the Middle East, Buddhists have China (although, that's starting to be false), etc.

[Hallistar]

Look, I think all the guy is saying that theists are being persecuted. It's true. Theists are being persecuted by other theists. Christians are being persecuted in places where they are minority and interestingly, the opposite is true.

What I don't and what I'll never, ever, ever accept is that atheists aren't being persecuted anywhere. Between the prejudice that atheists receive by society as a whole and the general hatred against them, it is an undeniable fact that they are hated everywhere, anywhere.

I think every demographic is persecuted somewhat. And also, all demographics can be seen as not as persecuted as they think they may be somewhat.

But I do think that it's become very apparent that many people here have identified with atheism so strongly, to the point of militant defending, because they needed a victim complex to hide behind so they can justify why life sucks for them.

And I'm glad that it's become clearer, because I was wondering.

"Militant defending"

"Oh no you atheists are posting on your computers replying to my post alot. You're clearly crying and becoming defensive and gathering weapons [[Because you keep calling us militant]] and are taking it personally, when all you're really doing is just using your free time to post on a forum with a blank expression in real life."

You also say we're ganging up on the new member (you), and then say we're the ones with victim complexes?

[Ostroeuropa]

Look, I think all the guy is saying that theists are being persecuted. It's true. Theists are being persecuted by other theists. Christians are being persecuted in places where they are minority and interestingly, the opposite is true.

What I don't and what I'll never, ever, ever accept is that atheists aren't being persecuted anywhere. Between the prejudice that atheists receive by society as a whole and the general hatred against them, it is an undeniable fact that they are hated everywhere, anywhere.

I think every demographic is persecuted somewhat. And also, all demographics can be seen as not as persecuted as they think they may be somewhat.

But I do think that it's become very apparent that many people here have identified with atheism so strongly, to the point of militant defending, because they needed a victim complex to hide behind so they can justify why life sucks for them.

And I'm glad that it's become clearer, because I was wondering. But really, it's a good thing, because now this thread makes a whole lot more sense.

Very few people i've met primarily blame theists for their lives, unless it's with good reason like rape-by-clergy or religious civil warfare.
We're mildly annoyed. You'll find most of us primarily blame either ourselves, or the economic systems in place. Not religion.
You also seem to think life sucks for atheists, this is a typical problem some religious people have. It doesn't.
I, for one, am quite content.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

But I do think that it's become very apparent that many people here have identified with atheism so strongly, to the point of militant defending, because they needed a victim complex to hide behind so they can justify why life sucks for them.

It amuses me that you criticise someone else for using the term "kiddo" but then come out with the ridiculous sack of crap that is this baseless generalisation.

[Condunum]

Look, I think all the guy is saying that theists are being persecuted. It's true. Theists are being persecuted by other theists. Christians are being persecuted in places where they are minority and interestingly, the opposite is true.

What I don't and what I'll never, ever, ever accept is that atheists aren't being persecuted anywhere. Between the prejudice that atheists receive by society as a whole and the general hatred against them, it is an undeniable fact that they are hated everywhere, anywhere.

I think every demographic is persecuted somewhat. And also, all demographics can be seen as not as persecuted as they think they may be somewhat.

But I do think that it's become very apparent that many people here have identified with atheism so strongly, to the point of militant defending, because they needed a victim complex to hide behind so they can justify why life sucks for them.

And I'm glad that it's become clearer, because I was wondering. But really, it's a good thing, because now this thread makes a whole lot more sense.

Seriously, now you're just trying to connect things that are unrelated. Are you trying to justify to yourself why atheists are mean and scary?

[Duvniask]

Everywhere?

What I meant is that atheism have no home country to be safe in. Obviously there's pockets of communities that can be friendly to atheists, but I find those to be rare. A Catholic have Italy and most of South America, Muslims have the Middle East, Buddhists have China (although, that's starting to be false), etc.

By just going with my experience, Denmark seems pretty tolerant of atheism, as with other places in Northern Europe.

[Maledixit]

Lol I'm ignoring the rest, because it's dull, but I just want to clarify this one really quick.

You also say we're ganging up on the new member (you), and then say we're the ones with victim complexes?

If you pay attention, you'll notice I said I wasn't bothered by it, so I don't feel like a victim, ergo no it's not the same.

It's the opposite in fact, I think it's kind of adorable how this is the only way you lot react when you don't know how else to react. It's like a social psychologist's wet dream.

[Ceannairceach]

Atheism is the default, as it is an inactive state at its core. Atheism is the lack of belief. You do not have to do anything to lack belief. On the opposite side, theism requires active belief in a deity. Thus, babies are atheist, because they lack belief.

Actually, atheism is the rejection of the belief of deities. Until a baby makes a conscious rejection, I don't see them as atheist, or theist. They don't have to be any of these boxes, for the same of academia.

Np, it isn't. Atheism is merely the lack of belief. Whatever dictionary you're using, it is wrong. There are only two boxes to tick; Theist, and if you aren't that, atheist. It is a binary system, perhaps the only true one.

[Ostroeuropa]

I will say though, I kind of find it hilarious how you all need to gang up on a brand new member for having their own views, just to feel secure.

If that's how you get your kicks then. Haha ok. It doesn't bother me, I just think it's kind of funny.

It's okay. These guys did the exact same thing to me, too. You get used to it after a while...

It's typical on NSG for one side to have such a poor argument that the majority consensus falls far, far on one side.
"Atheism is a faith" is one such poor argument.
Start a thread making a claim about theism that is demonstrably false, and you'll find mostly christians post there.

[Anachronous Rex]

What I meant is that atheism have no home country to be safe in. Obviously there's pockets of communities that can be friendly to atheists, but I find those to be rare. A Catholic have Italy and most of South America, Muslims have the Middle East, Buddhists have China (although, that's starting to be false), etc.

By just going with my experience, Denmark seems pretty tolerant of atheism, as with other places in Northern Europe.

Really all of Scandinavia.

"Skyrim for the Atheists!"

[Samuraikoku]

Really all of Scandinavia.

"Skyrim for the Atheists!"

VICTORY OR SOVNGARDE!

[Ostroeuropa]

Lol I'm ignoring the rest, because it's dull, but I just want to clarify this one really quick.

You also say we're ganging up on the new member (you), and then say we're the ones with victim complexes?

If you pay attention, you'll notice I said I wasn't bothered by it, so I don't feel like a victim, ergo no it's not the same.

It's the opposite in fact, I think it's kind of adorable how this is the only way you lot react when you don't know how else to react. It's like a social psychologist's wet dream.

I wouldn't appeal to psychology on these boards, or you'll be schooled by pissing off yet another group of people for completely misrepresenting what they believe in. (Psychology majors.)

[Norstal]

Look, I think all the guy is saying that theists are being persecuted. It's true. Theists are being persecuted by other theists. Christians are being persecuted in places where they are minority and interestingly, the opposite is true.

What I don't and what I'll never, ever, ever accept is that atheists aren't being persecuted anywhere. Between the prejudice that atheists receive by society as a whole and the general hatred against them, it is an undeniable fact that they are hated everywhere, anywhere.

I think every demographic is persecuted somewhat. And also, all demographics can be seen as not as persecuted as they think they may be somewhat.

But I do think that it's become very apparent that many people here have identified with atheism so strongly, to the point of militant defending, because they needed a victim complex to hide behind so they can justify why life sucks for them.

And I'm glad that it's become clearer, because I was wondering. But really, it's a good thing, because now this thread makes a whole lot more sense.

I really hope that's not a generalization because I'm an atheist myself.

But that's my point. If anytime a Christian feels persecuted, they can go to America or Europe. Where can an atheist go? There's no country dedicated to atheism. That's why I said they're being persecuted everywhere, as opposed to Muslims or Christians.

[Maledixit]

I will say though, I kind of find it hilarious how you all need to gang up on a brand new member for having their own views, just to feel secure.

If that's how you get your kicks then. Haha ok. It doesn't bother me, I just think it's kind of funny.

It's okay. These guys did the exact same thing to me, too. You get used to it after a while...

Haha thanks. But to be honest, I kind of find this all hilarious. Those that are more defensive about their views, and those that resort to jungle tactics, are usually the ones that are more insecure about them. So I'm kinda chuckling right now.

[Mexicanada]

Start a thread making a claim about theism that is demonstrably false, and you'll find mostly christians post there.

I have yet to find one. The search goes on.
In other news, I found an appropriate picture for this thread

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Lol I'm ignoring the rest, because it's dull,

How mature. "I can't refute your arguments so I'll call them dull and ignore them".

It's the opposite in fact, I think it's kind of adorable how this is the only way you lot react when you don't know how else to react. It's like a social psychologist's wet dream.

There's only one individual here making sweeping and baseless generalisations in a desperate attempt to shore up a position which appears to have the credibility of Flat-Earthism.

[Ceannairceach]

It's okay. These guys did the exact same thing to me, too. You get used to it after a while...

Haha thanks. But to be honest, I kind of find this all hilarious. Those that are more defensive about their views, and those that resort to jungle tactics, are usually the ones that are more insecure about them. So I'm kinda chuckling right now.

Make this a lesson, folks; When you are wrong, laugh at the competition and call them discriminatory and mean. *nod*

[Imperiatom]

What I meant is that atheism have no home country to be safe in. Obviously there's pockets of communities that can be friendly to atheists, but I find those to be rare. A Catholic have Italy and most of South America, Muslims have the Middle East, Buddhists have China (although, that's starting to be false), etc.

By just going with my experience, Denmark seems pretty tolerant of atheism, as with other places in Northern Europe.

Most northern European country's have more people that don't practice a religion than do, so i would say it is the atheist's that are tolerant of the religious people.

[Samuraikoku]

It's okay. These guys did the exact same thing to me, too. You get used to it after a while...

Haha thanks. But to be honest, I kind of find this all hilarious. Those that are more defensive about their views, and those that resort to jungle tactics, are usually the ones that are more insecure about them. So I'm kinda chuckling right now.

Oh look, the poor widdle victims.

[Conserative Morality]

What I meant is that atheism have no home country to be safe in. Obviously there's pockets of communities that can be friendly to atheists, but I find those to be rare. A Catholic have Italy and most of South America, Muslims have the Middle East, Buddhists have China (although, that's starting to be false), etc.

I would say most of the West is 'safe' for atheists. Atheists and the irreligious are part of our modern history, of our greatest movements, and largely accepted, save for small pockets of fossils within these countries.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Start a thread making a claim about theism that is demonstrably false, and you'll find mostly christians post there.

I have yet to find one. The search goes on.
In other news, I found an appropriate picture for this thread

Indeed. In that metaphor, the teeth are these strange things called "facts".

[Norstal]

By just going with my experience, Denmark seems pretty tolerant of atheism, as with other places in Northern Europe.

Really all of Scandinavia.

"Skyrim for the Atheists!"

Haven't been there so I can't say for sure. I know there's a good amount of atheists there, but the countries in Northern Europe has been traditionally Christian so I was going by that.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's okay. These guys did the exact same thing to me, too. You get used to it after a while...

Haha thanks. But to be honest, I kind of find this all hilarious. Those that are more defensive about their views, and those that resort to jungle tactics, are usually the ones that are more insecure about them. So I'm kinda chuckling right now.

It isn't being defensive to point out when you say things that are false.
Stop, go back and read your posts and our replies.
We are posting reactively to things you say.
We aren't "defensive." we're pointing out you are wrong.

[Pradja]

Lol I'm ignoring the rest, because it's dull, but I just want to clarify this one really quick.

You also say we're ganging up on the new member (you), and then say we're the ones with victim complexes?

If you pay attention, you'll notice I said I wasn't bothered by it, so I don't feel like a victim, ergo no it's not the same.

It's the opposite in fact, I think it's kind of adorable how this is the only way you lot react when you don't know how else to react. It's like a social psychologist's wet dream.

Sir or madame, you know why most of those guys attack you? Because you insult us with things like "existential crisis".

[Ostroeuropa]

Start a thread making a claim about theism that is demonstrably false, and you'll find mostly christians post there.

I have yet to find one. The search goes on.
In other news, I found an appropriate picture for this thread

You realize what this implies don't you. Or maybe you don't. Should I spell it out?
Incidentally, this encapsulates in one post that you clearly don't think before posting, either that or you don't read what others post.
Good job.